Post-match thread: Shrewsbury Town vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th September 2023 | KO 3:00pm
Charlton had a much improved second half and created a number of solid chances that, on another day, could have been the decider. Changes came in time, with Louie Watson looking more mobile in the middle, on for Terry Taylor, and Chucks Aneke imposing himself instantly. Our danger man Corey Blackett-Taylor was effectively marshaled out of the game and replaced with Scott Fraser returning after a long injury. With all the changes we looked much more dangerous but were unable to break the deadlock.
Perhaps we’ll rue the chance to pick up all three points—and obviously we have a lot of ground to make up—but we were solid in ways we haven’t been and kept Shrewsbury from scoring. That’s a plus given our start to the season.
Shrewbury 0 Charlton 0
Over to you.
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Clean sheet, away point. Two home games to come.
That is all…9 -
Rubbish...1st half
Ok...second half
Least we didn't loose...1 -
Didn’t lose
Clean sheet
Now 4 games undefeated.
Sounds pretty good to me.12 -
That was awful. Our inability to look like a football team for more than 25 minutes each week is quite amazing.15
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Last 4: 2 points per game - promotion form.
First 5: 0.6 points per game - relegation form.8 -
Conditions weren’t conducive for decent football. It never feels like they are at Shrewsbury - I wouldn’t want a season ticket there that’s for sure.6
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Quality of League one seems poor compared to previous seasons to me so far. Just a shame how bang average we are.
No one will remember today if we win the 2 home games coming up11 -
Appleton needs to move his half-time rollockings forward to pre-match. Yet again we were very poor in the first half but picked it up in the second and created enough good chances to win.
Isted finally showed what a good keeper he can be, with some important saves. Tennai Watson impressed again and the Hector:Jones double act is starting to look much more solid. Terell Thomas looks steady enough in defence now but offers nothing going forward and i remain of the opinion that Tayo Edun is a better all round option for us in the left back position.
Of all the midfield and attacking players on the pitch in the first half, only Dobbo acquitted himself well The rest were simply poor, with Alfie May and Tyreece Campbell looking particularly jaded and CBT having a rare ineffective game. Louie Watson, despite a couple of bad errors near the end of the game, gave us a composure and mobility in midfield that had previously been lacking. Then Chuks and Tedic added a more potent threat and we dominated much of the last half hour.
Overall, the game was a pretty accurate representation of third division football. Determination, strength and energy largely outweighed the skill factor.
Another game unbeaten and an away point looks ok on paper, but Appleton will know that was nowhere near good enough. We’ve got to do much better if we want to rise above mid-table obscurity.
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At least they got a clean sheet. Which given the poor defense is a positive. We can see now how at best this is an average squad.0
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Meanwhile Palace win at Old Trafford.1
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I thought Dobbo stunk the place out today. So many misplaced passes, balls running under his feet and miscontrols.Davo55 said:Appleton needs to move his half-time rollockings forward to pre-match. Yet again we were very poor in the first half but picked it up in the second and created enough good chances to win.
Isted finally showed what a good keeper he can be, with some important saves. Tennai Watson impressed again and the Hector:Jones double act is starting to look much more solid. Terell Thomas looks steady enough in defence now but offers nothing going forward and i remain of the opinion that Tayo Edun is a better all round option for us in the left back position.
Of all the midfield and attacking players on the pitch in the first half, only Dobbo acquitted himself well The rest were simply poor, with Alfie May and Tyreece Campbell looking particularly jaded and CBT having a rare ineffective game. Louie Watson, despite a couple of bad errors near the end of the game, gave us a composure and mobility in midfield that had previously been lacking. Then Chuks and Tedic added a more potent threat and we dominated much of the last half hour.
Overall, the game was a pretty accurate representation of third division football. Determination, strength and energy largely outweighed the skill factor.
Another game unbeaten and an away point looks ok on paper, but Appleton will know that was nowhere near good enough. We’ve got to do much better if we want to rise above mid-table obscurity.
Sort of why I’m feeling more forgiving for the performance overall. When even he’s having to struggle, you know it’s a horrible match to play in.
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Even Brownie thinks Appleton looks aggressive
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I tempted fate, this was Shrewsbury's first draw of the season, I really doubted it would happen .. still an away point and our defence was solid1
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Don’t think Appleton knows what our best team is yet, because of players coming back from injuries. However, the positive is that we know our best team to finish involves Aneke playing down the middle.Two consecutive away performances when we probably been the weaker of the two teams and we haven’t lost in either. Pleased with keeping the clean sheet. If we beat Exeter on Tuesday then this will be forgotten about very quickly.4
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Ten Hag absolutely uselessShootersHillGuru said:Meanwhile Palace win at Old Trafford.1 -
Never known a goalkeeper to almost to be MOTM and be the villlan in one game. Thomas at LB against weaker teams will set us back. Watson should of started over Taylor . Shoutout to those who made the trip up as an hour journey from Chester seems bad enough for that performance. Campbell and Leaburn in their actually positions next game UTA
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Positives today........
Millwall lost 3-0 at home
Europe thrashing the US in the Ryder Cup
We didnt lose.
Not much else.
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Ironically, Isted gives me some of the same feelings as Hendo did, albeit in different ways. But with both I trust them to do the hard stuff, and worry about them doing the easy stuff.
Isted with four quality saves that earned us the point. Watching the Winchester shot again and it really is an incredible strike. He's off balance and hits it with pace and accuracy, and whatever you think of Isted's positioning (and it didn't look too bad on replays), he makes an excellent save.
We need to be better from the start, and that means at some point Appleton needs to either choose between Leaburn and May, or go two up front and sacrifice either a midfielder or CBT.
Again, been saying it since preseason, this squad had a lot of talent in it, and there is no clear way to set up a team that gets the best out of the best players. We don't have a RW. May can't play as a lone striker. We lack depth at LB.
Tuesday should be interesting. First Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday in the league this season.8 -
It wasn't one of his best performances, granted, but he always makes himself available, makes some important blocks and sprays the ball around a bit. Terry Taylor and Tyreece Campbell were much worse.Callumcafc said:
I thought Dobbo stunk the place out today. So many misplaced passes, balls running under his feet and miscontrols.Davo55 said:Appleton needs to move his half-time rollockings forward to pre-match. Yet again we were very poor in the first half but picked it up in the second and created enough good chances to win.
Isted finally showed what a good keeper he can be, with some important saves. Tennai Watson impressed again and the Hector:Jones double act is starting to look much more solid. Terell Thomas looks steady enough in defence now but offers nothing going forward and i remain of the opinion that Tayo Edun is a better all round option for us in the left back position.
Of all the midfield and attacking players on the pitch in the first half, only Dobbo acquitted himself well The rest were simply poor, with Alfie May and Tyreece Campbell looking particularly jaded and CBT having a rare ineffective game. Louie Watson, despite a couple of bad errors near the end of the game, gave us a composure and mobility in midfield that had previously been lacking. Then Chuks and Tedic added a more potent threat and we dominated much of the last half hour.
Overall, the game was a pretty accurate representation of third division football. Determination, strength and energy largely outweighed the skill factor.
Another game unbeaten and an away point looks ok on paper, but Appleton will know that was nowhere near good enough. We’ve got to do much better if we want to rise above mid-table obscurity.
Sort of why I’m feeling more forgiving for the performance overall. When even he’s having to struggle, you know it’s a horrible match to play in.6 -
Yeah - it’s really hard to evaluate Isted in that match. For the most part it was his best performance in a Charlton shirt, but there were a couple of concerning moments too!Red_Chester said:Never known a goalkeeper to almost to be MOTM and be the villlan in one game. Thomas at LB against weaker teams will set us back. Watson should of started over Taylor . Shoutout to those who made the trip up as an hour journey from Chester seems bad enough for that performance. Campbell and Leaburn in their actually positions next game UTAClean sheet though, maybe that’s all that matters.3 - Sponsored links:
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Have to start converting these draws into wins! That’s the only way you’ll move up the league yo where we want to be..
having said that, we’d have lost that a few weeks ago - things are turning, just have to be patient I guess6 -
Wins at home, draws away. You can argue maybe about how "accurate" the results are but in terms of actual results/points then frankly that's really quite good compared to where we were.
Not a vintage performance and Appleton can't keep pulling the "slow start, impact subs" shtick, we need to start playing well from the beginning of games AND finish strongly too instead of one or the other.
But 8 points from 12 possible is better than I expected honestly. Hopefully we can start turning good patches into good games and progress from there...4 -
I just don't understand why we go into games like this with just one player up front.
In the first half, May was completely isolated and didn't get a look in. He couldn't hold the ball up and it just kept coming back, putting us under constant pressure. Throw in that Campbell, playing the 10 role, and Leaburn, out on the wing, both looked completely lost and that first half was shambolic and Appleton should take much of the blame for that.
At least when we had Tedic and Aneke up front in the second half we looked as if we might score.
I can't make my mind up about Isted. A number of really good saves but he nearly gets beaten from inside the Shrewsbury half (he was so lucky the ball bounced over after he had got his hands to it), he tries to dribble past a Shrewsbury and loses the ball and has to bring him down and his good save in the last minute was from a kick out he put straight to a Shrewsbury player. Its not going to be boring with him in goal, that's for sure.12 -
Didn't watch but we sounded a bit gassed.
Appleton has been working them hard for the weeks he's been here if you believe what you read. This will take its toll and you'll get lulls whilst their bodies take time to recover and you'll initially get jaded performances every few games. Hopefully consistent performances will come in time
Well that's what I'm telling myself!
We didn't lose, and that's important.2 -
It seemed they compressed the width of the pitch which took CBT out of the game. Very poor first half, the better team in the second and a draw was probably a fair result.2
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To get promoted you probably need to be finding a way to win matches like that. If you can’t win, though, at least don’t lose.Crappy game that could’ve gone either way and we should’ve been punished at the end.We still look a mid table side. Hopefully things will improve as Appleton gets to grip with his options in this squad.2
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Much better second half think we got to grips with there basic direct style .. we were not getting the second balls in the first half , to many poor performances Campbell ,Leaburn CBT and Dobson especially first half not surprise we struggled but second half much much better with Shrews only relying on breakaways … MA deserves credit clearly had words at HT … positives , Clean Sheet , 0-0 at HT , 0-0 at FT in a game we would have lost under DH , Fraser getting 20 mins , L Watson made a big diff calmed us down in the middle .. and defensively we look so much stronger with Hector and Jones outstanding but MOM Isted , his double save at the end of first half was superb
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The formation didn't change when the subs came on, it was more having round pegs in round holes...Fortune 82nd Minute said:I just don't understand why we go into games like this with just one player up front.
In the first half, May was completely isolated and didn't get a look in. He couldn't hold the ball up and it just kept coming back, putting us under constant pressure. Throw in that Campbell, playing the 10 role, and Leaburn, out on the wing, both looked completely lost and that first half was shambolic and Appleton should take much of the blame for that.
At least when we had Tedic and Aneke up front in the second half we looked as if we might score.
I can't make my mind up about Isted. A number of really good saves but he nearly gets beaten from inside the Shrewsbury half (he was so lucky the ball bounced over after he had got his hands to it), he tries to dribble past a Shrewsbury and loses the ball and has to bring him down and his good save in the last minute was from a kick out he put straight to a Shrewsbury player. Its not going to be boring with him in goal, that's for sure.
If the starting lineup had been Miles up front, May in the attacking No 10 role and TC right wing, it would surely have been more effective?4 -
We looked like we switched to 4-4-2 toward the end of the first half. We struggled to get a grip on the game.killerandflash said:
The formation didn't change when the subs came on, it was more having round pegs in round holes...Fortune 82nd Minute said:I just don't understand why we go into games like this with just one player up front.
In the first half, May was completely isolated and didn't get a look in. He couldn't hold the ball up and it just kept coming back, putting us under constant pressure. Throw in that Campbell, playing the 10 role, and Leaburn, out on the wing, both looked completely lost and that first half was shambolic and Appleton should take much of the blame for that.
At least when we had Tedic and Aneke up front in the second half we looked as if we might score.
I can't make my mind up about Isted. A number of really good saves but he nearly gets beaten from inside the Shrewsbury half (he was so lucky the ball bounced over after he had got his hands to it), he tries to dribble past a Shrewsbury and loses the ball and has to bring him down and his good save in the last minute was from a kick out he put straight to a Shrewsbury player. Its not going to be boring with him in goal, that's for sure.
If the starting lineup had been Miles up front, May in the attacking No 10 role and TC right wing, it would surely have been more effective?
I mean if we're going to start May we need someone else up front with him. I think the Miles RW and TC 10 experiment isn't worth how it leaves us short elsewhere.
I expect 3-5-2 on Tuesday, Edun and Assimwe WBs, Leaburn and May up front. CBT and Campbell off the bench.0 -
Despite a lucklustre 1st half where we seemed clueless coping with the Shrewsbury press, and allowed our front men to get isolated from the rest of the team - we put in a much better show after half time.
Lloyd Jones put in his most impressive performance so far, Isted did his job, plus Louie W, Chuks and Tenic gave us impetus and at times, a degree of control.
You know, 'if only' we'd been a bit sharper in front of goal .....like Chuks had put away one of his chances, we'd have won.
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