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Post-match thread: Shrewsbury Town vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th September 2023 | KO 3:00pm

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Isted definitely saved a goal.
    He saved about three in total.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    That 60 yard strike was going in, it was almost nearly an OG too! Lucky point then really.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Wibble wibble wibble.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Wibble wibble wibble.
    Yeah whatever. You constantly personalise don’t you?
    Creepy creepy creepy.
  • se9addick said:
    jams said:
    I still think it was going wide until Isted intervened 
    Was going in, and was a really clever save, he knew it was gonna bounce over him and into the goal, so he took the only action he could an bounce the ball over the bar, via the turf, a good recovery and save imo...
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    If that was AMB who had that performance, he'd have broken the motm record on CL and a lot of people would need new underwear. 

    Cause it's Isted it's a dodgy save and one of his goal kicks has been noted down for point shaving..

    As bizarre as judging a player for missing a decent chance after scoring a hatrick. 

    A good save that saved us a lot of egg on our face. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    se9addick said:
    jams said:
    I still think it was going wide until Isted intervened 
    Was going in, and was a really clever save, he knew it was gonna bounce over him and into the goal, so he took the only action he could an bounce the ball over the bar, via the turf, a good recovery and save imo...
    Even if it WAS going wide (which I don't think it was) then it would be really hard to tell in real time at full speed. He couldn't really risk it IMO.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited October 2023
    Both Charlton (Isted & Jones) and Shrewsbury (Bayliss & Winchester) have players in L1 team of the week.


  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Almost scoring from 60 yards gets you in the TOTW?! 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Leuth said:
    Almost scoring from 60 yards gets you in the TOTW?! 
    If you watched the 90 mins, Winchester was easily their best player IMO. Best I’ve seen a player deal with CBT all season.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    We do have to be fair to Appleton. He has not had a pre-season or any influence in the players we have. He hasn't lost and we have to give him time for the overall performances to improve to a level where we become competetive. If they start improving he is doing a good job. It is too early to say he isn't doing a good job based on what we have seen so far and we have to give him time and support in the meantime. He will know how he wants us to play and will still be learning in terms of some of the players.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Leuth said:
    Almost scoring from 60 yards gets you in the TOTW?! 
    If you watched the 90 mins, Winchester was easily their best player IMO. Best I’ve seen a player deal with CBT all season.
    100%. I thought he was more of a central midfielder so was surprised to see him at wing back, but he did a very good job 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    edited October 2023
    se9addick said:
    jams said:
    I still think it was going wide until Isted intervened 
    quite a flap, but doesn't matter how you keep them out
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited October 2023
    seth plum said:
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

    Who are you judging Methven or Appleton?

    I also note that your "he is only here for the money" didnt extend to Henderson when he was appointed?

    Why would that be?  For someone so sensitive to it in others you are awfully xenophobic.

    Before any says anything about race or nationality look up what the word actually means first.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    Leuth said:
    Almost scoring from 60 yards gets you in the TOTW?! 
    If you watched the 90 mins, Winchester was easily their best player IMO. Best I’ve seen a player deal with CBT all season.
    The Shrewsbury fan (Shaun) I spoke with pre-match called that Winchester would run the show. I was impressed. I also thought Tom Bayliss was quality and my personal motm for them who's ended up in totw also. They do have some decent players tbf and played some good football which is why the result didn't concern me too much. 

    Feel if Shrewsbury had a striker they'd be a decent team 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited October 2023
    I feel the target of automatic promotion is weak and feeble. Therefore I am setting a target of Champions League football within three years. 

    I'll be posting before and after every game to update you all as to whether we are meeting my target. 

    Please enjoy.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Cafc43v3r said:
    seth plum said:
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

    Who are you judging Methven or Appleton?

    I also note that your "he is only here for the money" didnt extend to Henderson when he was appointed?

    Why would that be?  For someone so sensitive to it in others you are awfully xenophobic.

    Before any says anything about race or nationality look up what the word actually means first.
    Not quite sure what point you're making here. Stephen Henderson was a follow on from the appointment of Michael Appleton wasn't he?
    As for judging, well numerous people have suggested that the regime and their appointees are judged on results, which is actually what I am doing.
    As I type we sit fifteenth in the third division, not a great result from the first couple of months of the season and speaking purely for myself I don't think languishing where we are is good at all.
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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    seth plum said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    seth plum said:
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

    Who are you judging Methven or Appleton?

    I also note that your "he is only here for the money" didnt extend to Henderson when he was appointed?

    Why would that be?  For someone so sensitive to it in others you are awfully xenophobic.

    Before any says anything about race or nationality look up what the word actually means first.
    Not quite sure what point you're making here. Stephen Henderson was a follow on from the appointment of Michael Appleton wasn't he?
    As for judging, well numerous people have suggested that the regime and their appointees are judged on results, which is actually what I am doing.
    As I type we sit fifteenth in the third division, not a great result from the first couple of months of the season and speaking purely for myself I don't think languishing where we are is good at all.
    You can’t judge Appleton on us being 15th though. Since he took over we’ve got 2 points per game which is exactly what he should be delivering 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    seth plum said:
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

    Well of course we all want that don’t we?! Never met a football fan yet who didn’t!

    You personal target really isn’t here nor there though is it and you have set a new manager unattainable expectations given the situation and squad he inherited
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    seth plum said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    seth plum said:
    IAgree said:
    seth plum said:
    We have sacked the manager who started the season, and appointed a new one. 
    The new manager has a 0% lose rate. 
    The new manager has in my opinion dropped four points at Stevenage and Shrewsbury.
    Had we won both of those games by my calculation we would be four points behind my target instead of the current eight.
    We now have to beat Exeter and Blackpool to simply stand still and remain eight points behind (my) target.
    I can see some progress in players being available after injury, so in that respect Appleton has fallen into a pot of jam, but if Holden was sacked in order to make results better (some say this new Methven wrangled regime should be judged on results) then four points dropped at Stevenage and Shrewsbury are not improvements, had we won both of those games a case can be made that things have got better.
    Suggesting Appleton has “fallen into a pot of jam” is just plain old wrong on so many levels. He inherited a terrible legacy and has very clearly steadied the ship. To expect him to win every one of his opening games in the context of how and what he took over is to set him up to fail, although I suspect that’s the point isn’t it

    Re “your target” this is real life, not Football manager.
    I don't apologise for having the target of automatic promotion.
    The context of how and what he took over is down to Methven's merry men isn't it?

    Who are you judging Methven or Appleton?

    I also note that your "he is only here for the money" didnt extend to Henderson when he was appointed?

    Why would that be?  For someone so sensitive to it in others you are awfully xenophobic.

    Before any says anything about race or nationality look up what the word actually means first.
    Not quite sure what point you're making here. Stephen Henderson was a follow on from the appointment of Michael Appleton wasn't he?
    As for judging, well numerous people have suggested that the regime and their appointees are judged on results, which is actually what I am doing.
    As I type we sit fifteenth in the third division, not a great result from the first couple of months of the season and speaking purely for myself I don't think languishing where we are is good at all.
    Has anyone said its good?  Or is that another fantasy of yours that thousands of Charlton fans are dancing in the street because we are 15th in league one?

    Why use it as a very pathetic stick to beat our "so called manager" with?  Who has actually met your "target" since he has been employed. 

    Did you accuse Henderson being here for the money and not caring about results and your small mind little target?  Or is he the right kind of chap?

    Did you accuse Jackson and Bowyer for being "so called managers" because they took jobs under Roland and Thomas?

    Or has your sad little life been consumed by the  irrelevance of what school Methven went to or what colour his trousers are?

    You are absolutely pathetic and a hypocrite.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    edited October 2023
    Well Mr Plum thought our manager should be sacked if he didn't win the first 8 games, so by his reckoning Appleton should have already been sacked twice.
    Anyway he's getting all the attention he craves, so he must be happy in his world.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Looks like I am not the only one making judgements.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    seth plum said:
    Looks like I am not the only one making judgements.
    Hypocrite 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chunes said:
    I feel the target of automatic promotion is weak and feeble. Therefore I am setting a target of Champions League football within three years. 

    I'll be posting before and after every game to update you all as to whether we are meeting my target. 

    Please enjoy.
    That's a load of tosh, a proper target would be winning the six nations, grand national, boat race and The Hundred as well.
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    I feel the target of automatic promotion is weak and feeble. Therefore I am setting a target of Champions League football within three years. 

    I'll be posting before and after every game to update you all as to whether we are meeting my target. 

    Please enjoy.
    That's a load of tosh, a proper target would be winning the six nations, grand national, boat race and The Hundred as well.
    Surely not The Hundred?!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited October 2023
    Well Mr Plum thought our manager should be sacked if he didn't win the first 8 games, so by his reckoning Appleton should have already been sacked twice.
    Anyway he's getting all the attention he craves, so he must be happy in his world.
    This
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Is it Tedic or Tenic? I am getting confused.

    I thought it was Tedic but seen Tenic now a few times. 
    Only on the players’s marks thread. It’s Tedič.