Have said it for years, we 'lose' more money than we make with the food and drink in the kiosks.
The owners never improve things.
They should have some sort of app for fans to purchase their drinks in advance like a well known pub chain i dare not speak of
Or like at the 02 for an event. Order ahead and go collect. Sorted
This existed at some point last season, or maybe it was the season before. Anyway, me and my mates used it a couple of times. We got the pints extremely quickly, and hardly anyone used it.
Apparently Bristol Rovers have something similar for home fans , order in advance , scan your app at half time and pick up your pints. Works really well apparently.
Apparently Bristol Rovers have something similar for home fans , order in advance , scan your app at half time and pick up your pints. Works really well apparently.
I refuse to believe Bristol has the internet, I wont have it.
Have said it for years, we 'lose' more money than we make with the food and drink in the kiosks.
The owners never improve things.
They should have some sort of app for fans to purchase their drinks in advance like a well known pub chain i dare not speak of
Or like at the 02 for an event. Order ahead and go collect. Sorted
This existed at some point last season, or maybe it was the season before. Anyway, me and my mates used it a couple of times. We got the pints extremely quickly, and hardly anyone used it.
Maybe it’s something our fans group should put forward in their next meeting. Obviously many fans are not happy with the service this season but put the price doesn’t match the service.
Does anyone know how long our contract is left with G&G?
Have said it for years, we 'lose' more money than we make with the food and drink in the kiosks.
The owners never improve things.
They should have some sort of app for fans to purchase their drinks in advance like a well known pub chain i dare not speak of
Or like at the 02 for an event. Order ahead and go collect. Sorted
This existed at some point last season, or maybe it was the season before. Anyway, me and my mates used it a couple of times. We got the pints extremely quickly, and hardly anyone used it.
Maybe it’s something our fans group should put forward in their next meeting. Obviously many fans are not happy with the service this season but put the price doesn’t match the service.
Does anyone know how long our contract is left with G&G?
Many years ago(we were in the prem) I had just finished my MBA. I tried to suggest ways to Steve Sutherland to maximise the beer sales. Pre poured beer. People dispensing beer from backpacks like they do in the o2. He shot me down with health and safety issues. Still don’t know why everyone else can do it but us!!!
So we have a 12.30pm kick off therefore many people were in the fans bar just after 10.0am. Perfect opportunity to serve loads of breakfast sausage/ bacon rolls - and OK chips and the ever dependable pies. What fans surely don't want is a main course better suited for lunchtime. Just out of curiosity, did anyone buy this?
The staff should be paid a good rate. The staff should be properly paid because the prices people pay are very high. I have heard capitalists say that a market finds its own level, if that is true then something has to happen. Exploiting the workforce in order to squeeze a marginal profit whilst alienating customers seems to be a poor version of capitalism…unless you have a monopoly or a captive market.
I assume they are paid minimum wage or very marginally only a little better.
I doubt any government will materially change that rate.
In this case I think really the issue is training / familiarity and that can only be down to the third party outsourced provider.
Supply and demand will ultimately apply and mean custom is limited but practically I think it’s just another example of how poor a choice food and drink is inside football grounds and indeed any comparable venue. I make you right in your observation that chips from the local chip shop are better value.
My point is better pay gives you a better chance of retaining staff, at risk of slightly contradicting myself, experienced staff are going to be better at their job and more able to pass on their experience of how to do things more efficiently to newbies. Most jobs involve finding more effective ways to do the job that the manual doesn't tell you, and that comes with experience.
Anyone who falls for the Peroni baloney deserves to pay £7.40 a pint...
The staff should be paid a good rate. The staff should be properly paid because the prices people pay are very high. I have heard capitalists say that a market finds its own level, if that is true then something has to happen. Exploiting the workforce in order to squeeze a marginal profit whilst alienating customers seems to be a poor version of capitalism…unless you have a monopoly or a captive market.
I assume they are paid minimum wage or very marginally only a little better.
I doubt any government will materially change that rate.
In this case I think really the issue is training / familiarity and that can only be down to the third party outsourced provider.
Supply and demand will ultimately apply and mean custom is limited but practically I think it’s just another example of how poor a choice food and drink is inside football grounds and indeed any comparable venue. I make you right in your observation that chips from the local chip shop are better value.
My point is better pay gives you a better chance of retaining staff, at risk of slightly contradicting myself, experienced staff are going to be better at their job and more able to pass on their experience of how to do things more efficiently to newbies. Most jobs involve finding more effective ways to do the job that the manual doesn't tell you, and that comes with experience.
Anyone who falls for the Peroni baloney deserves to pay £7.40 a pint...
Well yes better pay can help with retention BUT given the venue it’s surely only ever going to attract temporary / part time staff.
It’s a job every other week and only for a few hours. Those staff are always going to flip to alternate jobs if opportunities arise.
The staff should be paid a good rate. The staff should be properly paid because the prices people pay are very high. I have heard capitalists say that a market finds its own level, if that is true then something has to happen. Exploiting the workforce in order to squeeze a marginal profit whilst alienating customers seems to be a poor version of capitalism…unless you have a monopoly or a captive market.
I assume they are paid minimum wage or very marginally only a little better.
I doubt any government will materially change that rate.
In this case I think really the issue is training / familiarity and that can only be down to the third party outsourced provider.
Supply and demand will ultimately apply and mean custom is limited but practically I think it’s just another example of how poor a choice food and drink is inside football grounds and indeed any comparable venue. I make you right in your observation that chips from the local chip shop are better value.
My point is better pay gives you a better chance of retaining staff, at risk of slightly contradicting myself, experienced staff are going to be better at their job and more able to pass on their experience of how to do things more efficiently to newbies. Most jobs involve finding more effective ways to do the job that the manual doesn't tell you, and that comes with experience.
Anyone who falls for the Peroni baloney deserves to pay £7.40 a pint...
Well yes better pay can help with retention BUT given the venue it’s surely only ever going to attract temporary / part time staff.
It’s a job every other week and only for a few hours. Those staff are always going to flip to alternate jobs if opportunities arise.
Of course some will, but equally there will always be a few local people who are happy to earn a few bob for a few hours on a regular basis, Nick. As long as they are getting a fair wage. Pubs have staff that just cover a Sunday night shift when the weekday staff are off, for example. If you retain one regular in every bar it would make a difference.
A decent hourly rate for six or seven hours, 36 times a year would pay for a good holiday in the off season...
Maybe the two pint price is to help people who struggle with sums.
I automatically know because of my age and education that if you hand over £1 for something costing 80p the change is 20p. Indeed I also know in old money that if you hand over £1 for something costing 7s11d you get 12s1d change. Most of my generation can do that kind of thing in their head. Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.
I still can’t get over a pint of Peroni in a plastic cup costing £7.40 at a third division football stadium. Absolute madness.
I don't think it would be ok if we were a prem team either!
A quick google suggests Arsenal charge the most per pint in the PL at £6.30. That doesn't say if it's Budweiser or Camden Hells though. Is worth noting Peroni is the most expensive beer at The Valley. I agree the others are still too expensive but it is about £1 more than anything else (from memory)
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The owners never improve things.
Same shocking service as well!
@clb74 could tell you a story about that
Don't understand why they don't just get cans and let you pour them out yourself.
Ps yeah I know you should be able to not need food or a drink at footy but it's a 9 + hour day out.
Anyone who falls for the Peroni baloney deserves to pay £7.40 a pint...
A decent hourly rate for six or seven hours, 36 times a year would pay for a good holiday in the off season...
We’ll win games but you may shit yourself if you eat with us again!
I automatically know because of my age and education that if you hand over £1 for something costing 80p the change is 20p.
Indeed I also know in old money that if you hand over £1 for something costing 7s11d you get 12s1d change.
Most of my generation can do that kind of thing in their head. Now people can’t calculate the change from £1 for an 80p purchase without a machine.