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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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I think both clubs have the option to cancel the loan deal. Expect Tedic, Campbell and Camera to go back to their clubs in January. Camera wages would offer us plenty scope in the budget to get a good replacement.killerandflash said:Tedic not featuring at all last night suggests that Appleton wants shot. I wonder if there is a break clause in January we can activate?
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I think Tedic will go back and we'll look for a more "mobile" option up front , I know the January window is usually a right pain to do business in but I think Appleton will want to put his mark on things.
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Tedic, Campbell and Abankwah may as well all go back as not getting any game time.
Tedic doesn't look up to it, Abankwah and Campbell have shown promise but seem to not be in Apples plans. Camara to go back due to his injury record rather than ability.
If we can shift Kirk and release Walker we should have some room to maneuver and if we are in touch with play offs I would like to think we go for it a bit with either quality loans or transfers or both.2 -
Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home0
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Easier said that done. I imagine we'll end up still paying most of his wages anyway.Athletico Charlton said:Tedic, Campbell and Abankwah may as well all go back as not getting any game time.
Tedic doesn't look up to it, Abankwah and Campbell have shown promise but seem to not be in Apples plans. Camara to go back due to his injury record rather than ability.
If we can shift Kirk and release Walker we should have some room to maneuver and if we are in touch with play offs I would like to think we go for it a bit with either quality loans or transfers or both.1 -
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home0 -
the big one is Brennan Johnson but he also had players when he was at Oxford who ended up having solid Championship careersgolfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home0 -
Johnson is the big one , also had Morgan Rodgers from Man City (now at Boro) at Lincoln too.0
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At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
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It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
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I agree with the posters above. 4 out of the 5 loans will return (keeping Louie), plus we’re desperate to shift Kirk. That should allow us to bring in a commanding CB, LB, CF and two wingers to push T Campbell and CBT.0
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I’ve hardly heard of any of those . They couldn’t have set the world alight .L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
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Have we? In recent years the only loanees that truly stand out are Jes and Gallagher.Chunes said:
It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
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Who I'd take over anyone on that list...L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
Have we? In recent years the only loanees that truly stand out are Jes and Gallagher.Chunes said:
It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
Ian Maatsen playing Prem football for Chelsea this season.
Let's see who he manages to bring in for Feb.
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Really good list of players that. Only thing I will challenge is that we have recruited very poorly in January for a while. Excluding, Liam Miller can’t think of many loan players who have joined in January have gone on to do well for us0
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Well, HE wont be bringing anyone in, it will be Scott. And his record so far is less than convincing.
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I'm sure the manager does make a difference to the quality of loanees, because parent clubs will be mainly concerned in how their players will be managed and developed.1
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I would add Cullen to that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
Have we? In recent years the only loanees that truly stand out are Jes and Gallagher.Chunes said:
It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
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What about Josh Cullen?Chunes said:
Who I'd take over anyone on that list...L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
Have we? In recent years the only loanees that truly stand out are Jes and Gallagher.Chunes said:
It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
Ian Maatsen playing Prem football for Chelsea this season.
Let's see who he manages to bring in for Feb.1 -
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Scott has to identify the deals available but the coach is always going to be a factor for the parent club. In that respect I’d imagine they’ll all trust Appleton over Holdengolfaddick said:Well, HE wont be bringing anyone in, it will be Scott. And his record so far is less than convincing.0 -
Of the current loanees it looks like only Watson is proving to be a success for us.
I have liked the little I have seen of Chem Campbell, and Camara has been unlucky.
I agree we release all but Watson back to their parent clubs, and unless the loans are at least the calibre of Watson I would play our youngsters.0 -
I think CBT will go in Jan, and I suspect MA already has a tough-tackling midfielder/defender lined up.1
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If I had to make a recent loan list in order of most impressive, Cullen is easily top.1
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Cullen, Rak-Sakyi and Gallagher have to be top 3.stoneroses19 said:If I had to make a recent loan list in order of most impressive, Cullen is easily top.3 -
I can guarantee a loan player won’t win our player of the year this season.1
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Good one, forgot about him and Bielik from Santa Claus.redbuttle said:
What about Josh Cullen?Chunes said:
Who I'd take over anyone on that list...L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
Have we? In recent years the only loanees that truly stand out are Jes and Gallagher.Chunes said:
It's not really an impressive list, is it? We've had better loanees than that.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
At Oxford, he had players like Kemar Roofe, George Baldock, JonJo Kenny & Tyler Roberts at Oxford…think he had Jordan Graham there.golfaddick said:
I've no idea of his history with loan players......who's he had "under his wing" that have proved to be a success then ?fenaddick said:Hoping Appletons history of good loans can continue in January if the 3 mentioned above do go home
Lincoln - Morgan Rodgers, Brennan Johnson, Josef Bursik, Lewis Forini, Josh Griffiths, Morgan Whittaker
Blackpool - Lewis Forini (again), Rhys Williams, Charlie Patino, Morgan Rodgers, Morgan Rodger’s…
The majority of these players were playing for premier league teams at the time, and looking through the careers of these players, have gone on to play for teams pushing for promotion out of the Championship or Premier League teams.
Its seems Appleton is well respected at the “bigger” clubs, and they are happy to send their young prospects to be developed under his watchful eye.
Ian Maatsen playing Prem football for Chelsea this season.
Let's see who he manages to bring in for Feb.
I don't think there's any comparison between the players we've brought in on loan and the ones Appleton has. But he keeps saying he's got this great history of bringing in top loanees.0 -
Were mostly talking about the sons of former players these days. Has Darren Bent got any kids?Garrymanilow said:I'd just like one transfer window where we don't talk about bringing back former players because we're desperate for something to say but don't actually know any other footballers. We've already had Taylor and Fosu, I can't wait until deadline day where people are arguing whether Morgan Fox could do a job on loan at centre back10 -
The loan thing is a bit silly. Not only is 'I haven't heard of them' not a particularly strong argument because it's reflective of the perception not the reality, a number of those players are playing at a high level now, so would certainly have been useful loans for a L1 club. Plus, of the teams listed you'd have to say we're by far the biggest draw in terms of facilities and upward potential. Lincoln just aren't going to get the loans we are and they have to cut their cloth accordingly. On top of that, some of these loans listed were at L2 level. You'd expect (hope) that Appleton will have access to a higher standard of loanee than at Lincoln, so it's about making the most of the player and improving them. Of the players listed:Kemar Roofe - Rangers. Was prolific at Championship level and surely could have got a Prem move but went to Anderlecht instead. Blighted by injuries. His Oxford spell converted him from a clever attacker to a prolific strikerGeorge Baldock - Sheffield United in the Prem. Signed for SU after two good loan spells at Oxford, promoted to the Premier League two years after thatJonjoe Kenny - Hertha Berlin. Was offered a contract extension at Everton but declined. Was kept in the Everton squad the season after his Oxford loan as he'd improve a lot.Brennan Johnson - moved to Tottenham for £47.5m. 10 goals for Lincoln saw him moved in the Forest first team where he scored 16 goals to send them up and then was a big part of keeping them up the next season.Charlie Patino is extremely highly rated, though it's too early to say where he'll go.Appleton obviously knows how to make the most of a decent loan player. I think we also pick and choose what we remember of loanees and overrate a lot of them. Bielik has had bad injuries but has spent the years after us playing for lower end Championship teams in danger of relegation. Cullen has done well but he's going to be relegated back down to the Championship and I think Burnley is where he'll stay. Gallagher is the highest flying but no-one we've had on loan has shifted for more than what Brennan Johnson did. Then add to that list all the shit loans we've had that people won't have heard of at other clubs. Gavin Kilkenny? Juan Castillo? Nile John? Dylan Levitt? Sullay Kaikai? Jordan Botaka? We're actually abit crap with loaning in players, we got three very right in a one year period and that's constantly pointed to as the level we should always be hitting or we've gone horribly wrong. It's not reality16
