Forest were the other club doing the rounds but I don't know if their impending FFP sanction will affect any January business.
Think Olympiacos will sign him and loan him to Forest to get around this as same owners.
As for Ikpeazu, whilst he scored against us I thought he was one of the most limited players I have seen. Just a big agricultural lump, most defences in this league will deal with him very easily. He definitely isn't an elite 8 signing and only just about would be a L1 bob average 8 signing.
Oh the Olympiakos workaround would make a lot of sense. I think they did similar the other year with Josh Bowler where Forest signed him but loaned him straight to Olympiakos
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
His goalscoring record is atrocious, but if he helps to keep us up then that works for me. As mentioned by an earlier poster, we're in a relegation struggle and players might be put off coming to us, unless the financial package suits.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
It’s good your not in charge then, because if your list is just the top player and they all want to go somewhere else we’re screwed, so we have to look at options.
He looked very good against us and put a shift in.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
You really want to try and find any angle you can to fit your own view point. It was the same the moment Carlisle signed a few players (the day before us) and you straight away wanted to use that as a point of them having an ownership team who 'cares' and has a 'plan in place'.
There is clearly a plan in place, and the fact we have signed players early, and now moved down the list to what I assume would be our 5th/6th choice striker, who all have the same sort of physical attributes, actually shows that. Not the other way around.
Whether the plan will work is a whole different story.
I think you're just overthinking my posts a tad. I've seen we are linked with a player, it's the transfer discussion thread, I've said I think he'd be a poor signing. Whatever I say will not dictate if the club decide to sign him, unless they've changed their recruitment tactics? Whatever I say should not impact you, so what do you mean by my 'view point'. What's the implication there?
I highlighted Carlisle previously as they had made movement to increase their chances of survival, we hadn't done at the time. Since then there has been some movement so I've not used them as a comparison. There are still question marks over the quality and longevity of these signings we have made, but that's like any signing, they're all risks until proven otherwise.
So to clarify no, I don't post to suit my 'view point' as I've been fairly positive about some of these signings, if I think a player is going to be a bad signing, I'll say it as that's the purpose of this thread..
Probably worth waiting for a Cawley Confirmation before we panic/get excited by the Ikpeazu link. So far it's literally one mention on a Sky blog, no idea if it's actually got any basis in reality.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
The Ikpeazu link is journalism 101. Link him to a side, mention another side who needs a striker, bonus points if they played against them recently, even better if they scored as it adds validity to the fluff piece.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solution
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
This.
At least with JCH you get goals to add to his presence & physicality.
The same JCH we’ve already bid for and tried to sign? Yous honestly rather have no one?
Don't have a good feeling about this one to be honest. Gives us a new dynamic in terms of striker profile, but a complete journeyman who has only featured 11 times with 1 goal for Port Vale this year, seems a very different profile to Goodwin who we were in for yesterday.
It’s good your not in charge then, because if your list is just the top player and they all want to go somewhere else we’re screwed, so we have to look at options.
He looked very good against us and put a shift in.
Of course, this has worked out well for us over the last few years.
Can we really base a signing just on how they play against us? I could understand if they had a proven record AND they played well against us, but this is a striker that's just a unit who's known to put himself about and make himself busy, if we are playing 5 at the back, we need more than that.
If Jayden Stockley returned I doubt people would be too happy, I want us to improve on the players that leave, not stagnate. Uche scores less than Stockley, he's not as good in the air as the Stockley and his hold up play is probably of a similar level.
Anyway I'll be careful from how I post from now as it's verging on clutter again when it's just a link.
When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.
Brought in to challenge for a place at Port Vale. Can't blame people for wanting us to get someone better.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solution
Based on the bids we were making, it gave me the impression (along with Coventry) that we have more to spend than 500k. I was combining those fees ans basically saying, instead of scrambling around, why not just put our budget on someone like that as we have numbers in other areas and probably enough to see us through the season.
This could go back and forth all day, clearly people are happy at this kind of signing and I'm not, it looks genuine as well now so I wish him the best if he does sign.
When Port Vale signed him Director of football, David Flitcroft, stated that "Uche is a powerhouse of a player and provides us with another dimension that combines and compliments our other attacking options and we have brought him in at this stage of the season to provide further competition for places"
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.
In October he said that In January they're happy for him to speak to other clubs.....
Would be a weird one after agreeing 500k for JCH and 400k for Goodwin. Can only assume we are still hopeful of JCH or someone else on a perm and Ikpeazu will be a short term contract during which it’s up to him and earn a longer deal but his record is very unimpressive.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
Not getting JCH was always a possibility though regardless of money and planning. I agree it’s underwhelming but options will be more limited in January where some players aren’t interested, clubs won’t let them go etc.
I’d rather we didn’t miss out on our targets in mid January, even if they’re not our first choices because the alternative is likely players further down the list or no one.
We tried for better options, they didn’t work out. Ikpeazu is next on the list.
We still need to fill the gap between now and the summer because Leaburn isn’t coming back soon and Aneke is made of glass, we’ve found a L1 player to do that for us.
All the better options are going to be available in the summer window at this point.
Can’t help but think that people just want a flashy signing (name like JCH or young up and comer like Goodwin) and when you back yourself into a corner trying to please fans you end up overpaying for a flop like Will Grigg.
Don't have a good feeling about this one to be honest. Gives us a new dynamic in terms of striker profile, but a complete journeyman who has only featured 11 times with 1 goal for Port Vale this year, seems a very different profile to Goodwin who we were in for yesterday.
Especially if we lose CBT, who is our second highest scorer and only player with the ability to create something out of nothing.
"I'm livid if Uche
goes, He is a constant threat, A really good unselfish hard working
footballer who is beginning to connect with Wilson and Chislett. Who we
do play up there some soft in there application player, Ffs Vale keep
Uche he makes going Vale worth going for me if he goes be a truly woeful
few days. I don't care if he only scored 1 goal is all round game gives
you something to look forwards too on a home game. If he goes that
leaves very few who have selling appeal to go watch. I'll be very
disappointed if he is allowed to go. Unbelievable"
"I see Uche as
important. That's because as a target man he enables us to play forward
that way. Not just through a pile of passes going sideways and
backwards. Plus of course he's a presence in both boxes. He's played for
some good clubs and, although not prolific as a goal scorer, that says
he's widely valued as the type of player he is."
"Wycombe &
Charlton will both know Uche isn't a prolific goalscorer, that's not why
they'd be interested in signing him, it's the other side of his game."
"My
guess is that's exactly what they're thinking. When you already have
L1's top scorer, Uche would be the perfect foil for him. So I hope Vale
are bearing this in mind when they negotiate a decent fee for him and
have a replacement in the bag before we let him go. Otherwise, it would
be a massive act of self-harm."
Ties in my post above which is why you shouldn't solely look at goalscoring records.
Regardless of whether you think Ikpeazu is a good signing or not, the speed from which we are moving from target to target is impressive, feel like in previous seasons we would wait till deadline day to sign a free agent
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
No one thinks he's a very good signing. Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then he's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand. If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think he would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).
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Oh the Olympiakos workaround would make a lot of sense. I think they did similar the other year with Josh Bowler where Forest signed him but loaned him straight to Olympiakos
As mentioned by an earlier poster, we're in a relegation struggle and players might be put off coming to us, unless the financial package suits.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
I highlighted Carlisle previously as they had made movement to increase their chances of survival, we hadn't done at the time. Since then there has been some movement so I've not used them as a comparison. There are still question marks over the quality and longevity of these signings we have made, but that's like any signing, they're all risks until proven otherwise.
So to clarify no, I don't post to suit my 'view point' as I've been fairly positive about some of these signings, if I think a player is going to be a bad signing, I'll say it as that's the purpose of this thread..
We should, could and must do better. Especially in our shit sandwich of a season!
We have a very difficult fixture list in February. I don't think this guy will be the difference.
Sadly.
Prepared to be shot down / proven wrong.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
Whilst I agree he isnt the top tier signing we hope for, he can certainly come here and contribute.
Can we really base a signing just on how they play against us? I could understand if they had a proven record AND they played well against us, but this is a striker that's just a unit who's known to put himself about and make himself busy, if we are playing 5 at the back, we need more than that.
If Jayden Stockley returned I doubt people would be too happy, I want us to improve on the players that leave, not stagnate. Uche scores less than Stockley, he's not as good in the air as the Stockley and his hold up play is probably of a similar level.
Anyway I'll be careful from how I post from now as it's verging on clutter again when it's just a link.
This could go back and forth all day, clearly people are happy at this kind of signing and I'm not, it looks genuine as well now so I wish him the best if he does sign.
In January they're happy for him to speak to other clubs.....
I’d rather we didn’t miss out on our targets in mid January, even if they’re not our first choices because the alternative is likely players further down the list or no one.
We still need to fill the gap between now and the summer because Leaburn isn’t coming back soon and Aneke is made of glass, we’ve found a L1 player to do that for us.
All the better options are going to be available in the summer window at this point.
Can’t help but think that people just want a flashy signing (name like JCH or young up and comer like Goodwin) and when you back yourself into a corner trying to please fans you end up overpaying for a flop like Will Grigg.
Especially if we lose CBT, who is our second highest scorer and only player with the ability to create something out of nothing.
Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then he's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand.
If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think he would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).