Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
No one thinks it's a very good signing. Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then it's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand. If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think it would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).
Because one man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa.
I don't believe he would be as important to us as he is allegedly to Port Vale, the reviews seem mixed.
I'll just wait and see (all we can do), either way, this is firmly starting to look like a typical January if it wasn't for Conor Coventry, especially if CBT does go and potentially Dobson.
Failed to get out top targets (except Coventry)
Failed to keep our prized assets (likely)
Added stop gaps and unproven players to the ranks to tide us over. Gillesphey will be Hector's replacement likely, so we still need another centre back.
I'll get stick for it, as anyone who doesn't praise them does, but we are miles off it still and a striker that doesn't score (I understand he has more to his game) and a third choice goalie isn't going to cut it.
Not really a fair assessment that though is it? We wanted to get a left sided centre half and we got the one we wanted in Gillesphey. We obviously bid for Abbey but he's got Premier League interest so that was never going to happen. Our top target up front was JCH but if we've had a £500k bid accepted, offered him more than£10k a week and he's said no because he wants more then what can we do? Goodwin is unfortunate but we got done on location, can't help that. We've had to go down our list on strikers but there's not a lot of obvious options out there and JCH sounds like he's been a bit of a penis. Appleton's first choice signing was clearly Fiorini and we got him along with a physical midfielder and Coventry who we beat a Championship team to. If we're changing formation to a shape that doesn't fit CBT and getting money to fund players who do then overall that's a positive. Coventry alone makes a better window than Bonne, Penney and Kilkenny
The players you mention are replacing outgoing players though in all likeliness.
I think it's fair, but that's my view. I genuinely just shouldn't post about it as it just ends up being a case of people arguing over what they do when it's all irrelevant and they're going to do what they want in the end and we just have to watch it.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
No one thinks it's a very good signing. Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then it's better than nothing.
Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand. If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think it would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation).
Because one man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa.
I don't believe he would be as important to us as he is allegedly to Port Vale, the reviews seem mixed.
I'll just wait and see (all we can do), either way, this is firmly starting to look like a typical January if it wasn't for Conor Coventry, especially if CBT does go and potentially Dobson.
Failed to get out top targets (except Coventry)
Failed to keep our prized assets (likely)
Added stop gaps and unproven players to the ranks to tide us over. Gillesphey will be Hector's replacement likely, so we still need another centre back.
I'll get stick for it, as anyone who doesn't praise them does, but we are miles off it still and a striker that doesn't score (I understand he has more to his game) and a third choice goalie isn't going to cut it.
Is this your first January transfer window? Can’t expect them to fully rebuild the squad in January!
It’s just about making some good signings, not being silly and overpaying, and leaving ourselves with less to do in the summer. I think we are doing a reasonable job at that so far, with 2 good permanent signings, and 2 loans that cover a short term need and could be potential permanent signings in the summer
Yes first January transfer window of course.
So just for some clarity, this window doesn't count in the future when we discuss how many windows this regime has had? Cause so far the summer didn't count as they arrived too late, allegedly, and now January is a write off as it's a sellers market?
Anyway yeah good signing, real strong lad, I'm sure he'll do a job at his 14th club. Can't wait to travel up and down the country to watch Uche do a job.
You're getting more illogical with every post. Anyway, back to transfer rumours.
I just lost interest after repeating myself. Thought I'd just join in and be happy over the signing. No matter what I use as my reasoning someone will flip it, rather than go up against the pack just best to go along with it.
That's how this thread goes. You simply cannot be against a signing or voice your views or it's a swarm of petty posts, subtle digs and a sense of unwelcome.
With the greatest respect you can and have voiced your views, probably more than anyone else. You just get upset when the vast majority disagree with your views.
No one is upset, do you really think if someone said this to me off of a forum/online I'd get upset? It's just tiresome when any poster I see (myself included) says they don't think x player is a good signing and it's met with LOLs, disagreements, remarks of not having a clue, view pushing etc. I don't think I've ever quoted someone who's positive and said 'you're completely wrong for being positive' or attempted to shut someone down for being happy about a signing. Maybe wanted an actual discussion but not a my way or the high way approach. I also don't think I've ever utilised that petty lol crap to undermine a post, only when I've genuinely been amused by a post.
I'd guess that's why a few people have given up posting who normally would in regards to a rumour or wanting to share their views as all constructive criticism is out of the window now.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
We won’t win a game until we have some muscle up front - it’s that simple
Forest were the other club doing the rounds but I don't know if their impending FFP sanction will affect any January business.
Think Olympiacos will sign him and loan him to Forest to get around this as same owners.
As for Ikpeazu, whilst he scored against us I thought he was one of the most limited players I have seen. Just a big agricultural lump, most defences in this league will deal with him very easily. He definitely isn't an elite 8 signing and only just about would be a L1 bob average 8 signing.
Maybe but we currently don’t have a L1 average physical striker in our entire squad that is fit and it’s killing us and has been for 2 months now
Forest were the other club doing the rounds but I don't know if their impending FFP sanction will affect any January business.
Think Olympiacos will sign him and loan him to Forest to get around this as same owners.
As for Ikpeazu, whilst he scored against us I thought he was one of the most limited players I have seen. Just a big agricultural lump, most defences in this league will deal with him very easily. He definitely isn't an elite 8 signing and only just about would be a L1 bob average 8 signing.
Maybe but we currently don’t have a L1 average physical striker in our entire squad that is fit and it’s killing us and has been for 2 months now
Since Washington was shown the door, in my humble opinion.
18 month contract sounds perfect to me. I think a big strong CF is very desirable in league one and that’s where we’ll be for the next 18 months. Even off the bench for last 20 minutes against tiring defenders I think he’d be valuable.
Forest were the other club doing the rounds but I don't know if their impending FFP sanction will affect any January business.
Think Olympiacos will sign him and loan him to Forest to get around this as same owners.
As for Ikpeazu, whilst he scored against us I thought he was one of the most limited players I have seen. Just a big agricultural lump, most defences in this league will deal with him very easily. He definitely isn't an elite 8 signing and only just about would be a L1 bob average 8 signing.
Maybe but we currently don’t have a L1 average physical striker in our entire squad that is fit and it’s killing us and has been for 2 months now
Since Washington was shown the door, in my humble opinion.
Different type of player - when leaburn and chucks were doing a job share we were fine
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too
If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh.
Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.
Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence.
Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge
But he will also cost a fee?
For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played.
This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..
Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.
This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.
Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.
Just don't think it's a good signing is all
It’s L1, players with 6 months left on their contract leave for free all the time. They might need to offload his wages or have someone else lined up. They also have 3 other strikers and usually play 1 up top from what I can see.
I get what you’re saying but what’s the alternative? JCH doesn’t look like he wants to sign Humphrys must be a non starter and we know Ladapo is. It’s clear we need a striker and we’re working our way down our shortlist. He’s not perfect but I’m not sure who else we go for
There's 92 professional clubs, there's clubs in the national league that have recently been professional, not to mention players abroad.
I'd really like to hope we have more imagination than just gradually looking at the strikers of every team in this league.
We allegedly bid a sizeable fee for Abbey, 500k or so for JCH, 400k for Goodwin.
Ali Al-Hamadi is probably going to go for around 1-2 million. I understand his likely destination will be a championship gamble, but if we have this kind of money now, why would we sign stop gaps. That's what the loan market is for imo.
big gap from 500k to 1/2m. The problems we have are a) everyone knows we’re after a striker so prices rise and b) good L2 players go to the Championship now and good NL players are a big gamble for L1. I see your point about loaned but we’ve got loads of them already (which is a problem but the situation we’re in) and parent clubs will want the player playing regularly which can’t be guaranteed. I’m not saying he’s perfect but as a stop gap he’s worth it. If I remember right you wanted Stockton, Ikpeazu is a cheaper player in the same style as Stockton. He’s less potent sure but we really just need someone to facilitate May for now. Use the resources we have in the summer to get a longer term solution
Is there a big gap between 500k and 1/2m...isn't it 0? ;-)
To all those saying that the "big lump" upfront doesn't need to be a goalscorer as we have Alfie May, just consider a moment in the 90th minute, at 1 1, when the ball falls to him 6 yards out & blazes it over the bar.
No thanks. Any striker HAS to know where the goal is. Otherwise you might as well just play Hector up front.
To all those saying that the "big lump" upfront doesn't need to be a goalscorer as we have Alfie May, just consider a moment in the 90th minute, at 1 1, when the ball falls to him 6 yards out & blazes it over the bar.
No thanks. Any striker HAS to know where the goal is. Otherwise you might as well just play Hector up front.
To all those saying that the "big lump" upfront doesn't need to be a goalscorer as we have Alfie May, just consider a moment in the 90th minute, at 1 1, when the ball falls to him 6 yards out & blazes it over the bar.
No thanks. Any striker HAS to know where the goal is. Otherwise you might as well just play Hector up front.
To all those saying that the "big lump" upfront doesn't need to be a goalscorer as we have Alfie May, just consider a moment in the 90th minute, at 1 1, when the ball falls to him 6 yards out & blazes it over the bar.
No thanks. Any striker HAS to know where the goal is. Otherwise you might as well just play Hector up front.
Quite frightening that you would think a target man centre forward has the same required technical characteristics as a centre back.
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Just hearing his name gives me that same feeling of a nice malt whiskey going down on a winters night. Gone but never forgotten.
😂😂
I'd guess that's why a few people have given up posting who normally would in regards to a rumour or wanting to share their views as all constructive criticism is out of the window now.
Methven also mentioned Reading players on his podcast.
1, when the ball falls to him 6 yards out & blazes it over the bar.
No thanks. Any striker HAS to know where the goal is. Otherwise you might as well just play Hector up front.
Currently we don't have a fit physical presence up topvand this Port Vale guy would bringl this.
Is he better than we have in terms of quality? Doubtful but he would plug a gap.
JCH and Humphreys would be better imho but they may or may not be available and in any case we need more than one more striker.