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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    We now need an innings from Pope similar to his 196 against India in Hyderabad that won us that Test. Would take half that in this situation to be honest!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited October 2024
    Sajid is the main man who has been out standing in the last two tests after missing the 1st after failing a fitness test.

    Gets Duckett out, not from an attacking shot but from trying to defend.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Noman has Crawley LBW. He reviews it but the ball is hitting. Out for 2 (12)

    15-2 (5.1)
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Pakistan to win by an innings. 

    We have no idea against spin. Apart from Jamie Smith that is. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    15/2 and Pakistan are nearly home and dryer.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Noman has got Crawley out in each of the last four innings. Crawley must be thankful that Noman didn't play in the First Test!
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,636
    I got an an alert on my phone in which Google were trying to tell me Pakistan's innings was over but due to a typo it claimed it was England that were all out. Took me a few overs to get round to opening the BBC text commentary, the first comment I saw recommended that I should watch from behind the sofa and it turns out Google weren't all that far wrong.

    Aaaargh.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    golfaddick said:
    Pakistan to win by an innings. 

    We have no idea against spin. Apart from Jamie Smith that is. 
    Big call 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Addick Addict said:
    We now need an innings from Pope similar to his 196 against India in Hyderabad that won us that Test. Would take half that in this situation to be honest!
    Not to be. Caught at slip off Noman for 1 (15)

    20-3
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    This past year Pope's form has fallen off a cliff 
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    When does Pope’s place come up for debate?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    fenaddick said:
    When does Pope’s place come up for debate?
    As soon as England can find a decent number 3.
    It's a position nobody wants to bat at.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Why do other teams have proper spinners who can move the ball both ways whereas England mostly have "slow" bowlers.  Going back to the days of Embury & Edmonds, through to Ashley Giles and now Leach. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Bad light stops play. Fortunately for us!

    24-3 and 53 runs behind still
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    Ah......bad light saves us.

    All over by Lunch tomorrow ??
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    fenaddick said:
    When does Pope’s place come up for debate?

    I can see smoke so Pope could be in trouble...

    When does the monsoon season start ?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Bad light in Pakistan. 
    Would never happen at Old Trafford 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    blackpool72 said:
    This past year Pope's form has fallen off a cliff 
    He is like a rabbit in headlines. Has always been a nervy starter but, once in, he does have the ability to go big. Problem is that when the confidence is down, he has that horrible jerky movement at the ball. I don't even think that it's got anything to do with him batting at 3 because he averages over 40 in that position. He is also probably a victim on playing half his matches in county cricket at the Oval (that's not a dig at Surrey by the way) as their wickets tend to be the best and the least suited to spin. If we take out that one big innings of 196 against India then he is averaging 21.73 in Asia and that rather says it all about his ability to play spin. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    He just looks totally devoid of confidence with the bat
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Pope needs some decent scores in the Ashes that's for sure otherwise he will lose his place. 
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Just glad am in the office today and didn't have that shit on the tv whilst WFH
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    Not with keeping too. Even when doing the job occasionally at Kent Cox would never bat above 5. It's too much to expect a rookie to do both especially one that didn't keep last season. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    Not with keeping too. Even when doing the job occasionally at Kent Cox would never bat above 5. It's too much to expect a rookie to do both especially one that didn't keep last season. 
    Of course, you'd have to play a more conventional WK too or give Pope the gloves down the order. Wouldn't be ideal but would be interesting to see how he played down the order too
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    fenaddick said:
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    Not with keeping too. Even when doing the job occasionally at Kent Cox would never bat above 5. It's too much to expect a rookie to do both especially one that didn't keep last season. 
    Of course, you'd have to play a more conventional WK too or give Pope the gloves down the order. Wouldn't be ideal but would be interesting to see how he played down the order too
    Sorry I thought you meant for the NZ tour for which there isn't another frontline keeper. Pope isn't up to it with the gloves and we can't have Surrey having numbers one, two and three England keepers in any case!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    Not with keeping too. Even when doing the job occasionally at Kent Cox would never bat above 5. It's too much to expect a rookie to do both especially one that didn't keep last season. 
    Of course, you'd have to play a more conventional WK too or give Pope the gloves down the order. Wouldn't be ideal but would be interesting to see how he played down the order too
    Sorry I thought you meant for the NZ tour for which there isn't another frontline keeper. Pope isn't up to it with the gloves and we can't have Surrey having numbers one, two and three England keepers in any case!
    I did mean NZ, I was suggesting they've got the squad wrong!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited October 2024
    fenaddick said:
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    Addick Addict said:
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    Not with keeping too. Even when doing the job occasionally at Kent Cox would never bat above 5. It's too much to expect a rookie to do both especially one that didn't keep last season. 
    Of course, you'd have to play a more conventional WK too or give Pope the gloves down the order. Wouldn't be ideal but would be interesting to see how he played down the order too
    Sorry I thought you meant for the NZ tour for which there isn't another frontline keeper. Pope isn't up to it with the gloves and we can't have Surrey having numbers one, two and three England keepers in any case!
    I did mean NZ, I was suggesting they've got the squad wrong!
    Oh!
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    edited October 2024
    I hope that's the last time we see Crawley in an England shirt. Unbelievably He's got 50 caps and averages in the mid twenties. He gives his wicket away continuously . Time for a new partner for Duckett and Pope should be looking over his shoulder as well.. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Smith not going to NZ means that the rest of the top order is safe for that series. 

    And conditions there may suit Pope more.
    I know he normally plays 4 but lots of other teams would use it as a chance to play Cox at 3 to see how he does
    A lot of people think that's what we've had for many years now

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