I wouldn't quite call it a free pass as such because we're desperate for points but i think the majority of sensible Charlton fans would admit they probably don't expect much from the next 3 games.
With that in mind i think Jones can use these next 3 games to find out his best team and formation so we can then attack the games in March. Anything we get from the next 3 is a bonus but i think our season isn't going to be defined by those 3 games, but instead it's all on the run of games in March.
Northampton A, Cheltenham A, Carlisle H, Fleetwood A, Wigan H and Exeter A. 4 away out of 6 and probably going to have to get at least 12 points from those to have a chance of staying up.
Think our first win will not come until we play Carlisle at home. By which time we will be well a drift. Any one who is banking on Aneke to stay fit to end of season and be our saving grace is dreaming.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I’m actually expecting relegation now and I think that provided the owners don’t pull the plug which I think is completely unlikely then Jones will get us back up. He’ll need financial support of course but I’m expecting he’ll get that. More than one season in league two is unthinkable.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I think you need to consider FFP in all of this. NJ will be on very big money for league 2, as would Coventry, REG etc. Its the drop in revenue combined with the outgoings we have that I can't get the maths to work for.
Certainly if we don't go straight back up (and even if we do) I think FFP is a serious consideration on the horizon.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I think you need to consider FFP in all of this. NJ will be on very big money for league 2, as would Coventry, REG etc. Its the drop in revenue combined with the outgoings we have that I can't get the maths to work for.
Certainly if we don't go straight back up (and even if we do) I think FFP is a serious consideration on the horizon.
If an investor puts in £1 either as equity or as a donation, it counts as revenue for FFP calculation purposes, meaning 60p of it can be spent on on wages. So they big question is how much are the owners prepared to inject as equity to make up for the revenue shortfall you correctly point to? Ditching over paid underperforming players, if we can, will be no great loss to us either.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
This is where i'm at.
They've put too much money in to walk away.
We get relegated and Mary, Mungo and Midge will possibly be shown the door and the decks are cleared.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I think you need to consider FFP in all of this. NJ will be on very big money for league 2, as would Coventry, REG etc. Its the drop in revenue combined with the outgoings we have that I can't get the maths to work for.
Certainly if we don't go straight back up (and even if we do) I think FFP is a serious consideration on the horizon.
What is the EFL loss limit and subsequent punishment for failing FFP? Didn't Reading fail it and only get deducted 6 points?
If that's the case i wouldn't worry too much about 6 points as we'll have run away with league two by then getting 100 points.
I’m actually expecting relegation now and I think that provided the owners don’t pull the plug which I think is completely unlikely then Jones will get us back up. He’ll need financial support of course but I’m expecting he’ll get that. More than one season in league two is unthinkable.
Some of us probably said this when we came down to league one 4 years ago.
We are leaving it very late and the pressure will really be on after the next three games. In those high pressure situations we usually fold, I think that is more likely than we go on a barnstorming run
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
I think you need to consider FFP in all of this. NJ will be on very big money for league 2, as would Coventry, REG etc. Its the drop in revenue combined with the outgoings we have that I can't get the maths to work for.
Certainly if we don't go straight back up (and even if we do) I think FFP is a serious consideration on the horizon.
What is the EFL loss limit and subsequent punishment for failing FFP? Didn't Reading fail it and only get deducted 6 points?
If that's the case i wouldn't worry too much about 6 points as we'll have run away with league two by then getting 100 points.
6 point penalty for Reading?
In that case expect us to get 25-30 points and miss a play-off spot by a point.
I visit a lot of other fans forums, always have done as I like to see other fans perception of us.
Hardly anyone outside Chartlon thinks we will face the drop. It's all just 'they have too much to stay up' etc
I saw a Lincoln fan say 'are there really 4 sides Charlton are worse than?'
So it seems the situation hasn't quite processed with other fans yet. I'll be honest, even saying and imagining us in League 2 doesn't look right.
I think we may be gone, as I can't see us winning more than 2 in a row, and that's what it will probably take. I would like to think we could beat Carlisle, Fleetwood and Cheltenham all in a row, which would probably put this nightmare of a season to bed, I just don't see it though.
My main concern about relegation, other than the obvious things such as finances and fan retention, would be if Jones would stay. I imagine he has a relegation clause in that contract?
I visit a lot of other fans forums, always have done as I like to see other fans perception of us.
Hardly anyone outside Chartlon thinks we will face the drop. It's all just 'they have too much to stay up' etc
I saw a Lincoln fan say 'are there really 4 sides Charlton are worse than?'
So it seems the situation hasn't quite processed with other fans yet. I'll be honest, even saying and imagining us in League 2 doesn't look right.
I think we may be gone, as I can't see us winning more than 2 in a row, and that's what it will probably take. I would like to think we could beat Carlisle, Fleetwood and Cheltenham all in a row, which would probably put this nightmare of a season to bed, I just don't see it though.
My main concern about relegation, other than the obvious things such as finances and fan retention, would be if Jones would stay. I imagine he has a relegation clause in that contract?
I visit a lot of other fans forums, always have done as I like to see other fans perception of us.
Hardly anyone outside Chartlon thinks we will face the drop. It's all just 'they have too much to stay up' etc
I saw a Lincoln fan say 'are there really 4 sides Charlton are worse than?'
So it seems the situation hasn't quite processed with other fans yet. I'll be honest, even saying and imagining us in League 2 doesn't look right.
I think we may be gone, as I can't see us winning more than 2 in a row, and that's what it will probably take. I would like to think we could beat Carlisle, Fleetwood and Cheltenham all in a row, which would probably put this nightmare of a season to bed, I just don't see it though.
My main concern about relegation, other than the obvious things such as finances and fan retention, would be if Jones would stay. I imagine he has a relegation clause in that contract?
Not having won a game in 14 matches, to win three in a row would be unlikely. At our rate we could struggle to win three more games this season.
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What I can't get my head around is 20 games in League One without a clean sheet. That's bonkers.
With that in mind i think Jones can use these next 3 games to find out his best team and formation so we can then attack the games in March. Anything we get from the next 3 is a bonus but i think our season isn't going to be defined by those 3 games, but instead it's all on the run of games in March.
Northampton A, Cheltenham A, Carlisle H, Fleetwood A, Wigan H and Exeter A. 4 away out of 6 and probably going to have to get at least 12 points from those to have a chance of staying up.
Sorry .
I think we’ll need 6 wins or 5 wins and a few draws.
March is a huge month for us as looking at the fixtures, it’s where I see most of the 16-18 points coming from to give us a chance.
I doubt it. We have multiple owners who may have been sold a dream, but they're having a rude awakening and will more likely to lose faith in the people running the project than the project itself. Can't see them all bailing. Enough big players amongst them looking enviously at Wrexham, whose success is doing us a favour in that regard btw because it will only steel their resolve to make a success of us given our potential.
We aren't talking about people who can't afford to do what is needed to turn this ship around, I'm expecting them to fund the short term financial hit if it happens.
Relegation would not be consigning ourselves to oblivion, or 'the end of the world is nigh' for me.
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I think you need to consider FFP in all of this. NJ will be on very big money for league 2, as would Coventry, REG etc. Its the drop in revenue combined with the outgoings we have that I can't get the maths to work for.
Certainly if we don't go straight back up (and even if we do) I think FFP is a serious consideration on the horizon.
They've put too much money in to walk away.
You would expect a hell of a lot more wins, bringing the fans back as we push for promotion
If that's the case i wouldn't worry too much about 6 points as we'll have run away with league two by then getting 100 points.
I would not assume we would automatically be a decent League 2 team.
In that case expect us to get 25-30 points and miss a play-off spot by a point.
The only increase will be from the visiting fans.....chance to see their team play at a (once) Premier League stadium and a weekend in the capital.
Hardly anyone outside Chartlon thinks we will face the drop. It's all just 'they have too much to stay up' etc
I saw a Lincoln fan say 'are there really 4 sides Charlton are worse than?'
So it seems the situation hasn't quite processed with other fans yet. I'll be honest, even saying and imagining us in League 2 doesn't look right.
I think we may be gone, as I can't see us winning more than 2 in a row, and that's what it will probably take. I would like to think we could beat Carlisle, Fleetwood and Cheltenham all in a row, which would probably put this nightmare of a season to bed, I just don't see it though.
My main concern about relegation, other than the obvious things such as finances and fan retention, would be if Jones would stay. I imagine he has a relegation clause in that contract?
At our rate we could struggle to win three more games this season.
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