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New England shirt 2024 & St George’s scandal

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Bit like the Charlton home kit,  how the fuck can  you fuck it up?  Red top, white shorts and red socks.

    England home kit,  white top, blue shorts and white socks... Stop fucking around with it!!!!  AND then charge saps £120 for it.

    One more thing to go GRRRRR!! over I suppose.

    Any flag business is just bumfluffery, some will come in their pants over it's symbolism, grow up! Some will see it as an affront to their nation, grow up!

    GRRRRRR!!
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    I was just getting over this 😡 


  • This is like a lot of things, im sure if i forced myself to have opinion i could.

    Do i actually care ? Not really.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Should change it to a gammon flag for all those offended 
    Pink.

    I like it.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    oooooh let me get hard and post an anti tory tweet. 


  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,768
    Does it wick away sweat adequately?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    oooooh let me get hard and post an anti tory tweet. 


    Whatever floats your boat…
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Germany are switching to Nike for 
    similar reasons 


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  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Actually like the shirt, but like a lot of concerts I'd like to go to but are overpriced, I won't be splashing out. I bought one for the Euros we got to the final, and it'll be years before I wear it out (and save enough for a new one).
    Actually vaguely like the small flag on the back, but not £85 worth of like.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,781
    Do I care about the colours?  Couldn't be arsed.

    Do I need some septics telling me they're being 'playful' with the flag?  Definitely not.  They'd be lynched if they did it to their own flag.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Do I care about the colours?  Couldn't be arsed.

    Do I need some septics telling me they're being 'playful' with the flag?  Definitely not.  They'd be lynched if they did it to their own flag.
    Would they? Nike have been messing around with the colours of flags on national team shirts for ages including the USA ones.


    This was their 2021 effort, they playfully printed the flag in black lines and swapped out the stars. As far as I can tell it passed without comment, definitely no reports of lynchings. The only difference is it was 2021 and the reactionary outrage-mobile hadn't achieved top speed yet.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    edited March 2024
    Do I care about the colours?  Couldn't be arsed.

    Do I need some septics telling me they're being 'playful' with the flag?  Definitely not.  They'd be lynched if they did it to their own flag.
    I’m really not sure that’s true. There’s a crazy amount of weird outrage in England over this, I’m not sure it would even be noticed in lots of other countries, I definitely don’t think anyone would be “lynched” over it. 

    This country has become a very strange place.
  • Germany are switching to Nike for 
    similar reasons 



    Adidas was in fact set up by an ardent Nazi (Adolf Dassler). His brother fell out with him and set up Puma.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,616
    edited March 2024
    Germany are switching to Nike for 
    similar reasons 



    Adidas was in fact set up by an ardent Nazi (Adolf Dassler). His brother fell out with him and set up Puma.
    Love the fact that Cruyff would wear 2 stripe “Adidas” Dutch kits as he was a Puma boot man. Also that O’Neills the GAA shirt manufacturer won a court case against Adidas to allow them to use the 3 stripes in Ireland as they were older and had used the 3 stripes before them.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    edited March 2024

    People seem to have forgotten when Umbro defaced our beautiful flag for their woke nefarious shadow pattern ways in 1997. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Germany are switching to Nike for 
    similar reasons 



    Adidas was in fact set up by an ardent Nazi (Adolf Dassler). His brother fell out with him and set up Puma.
    Yeah but don’t let that get in the way of a joke rodders.

    they started geda together before falling out after the war and starting puma (originally ruda after Rudolph) and adidas (after adolph)
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Do I care about the colours?  Couldn't be arsed.

    Do I need some septics telling me they're being 'playful' with the flag?  Definitely not.  They'd be lynched if they did it to their own flag.
    They’d be slated by the same idiots as we have here who get upset by whatever topic is served up by the media.  
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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    The US soccer logo had the stripes the wrong colour for over 20 years. 


  • Actually think both of the new kits are really nice, probably the best we've had for quite some time. The prices are an absolute joke though. 

    However i think international kits run on a 2 year cycle, so averaged out the price is better than the cost of club shirts that change every year.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    sam3110 said:
    It's a dumb thing to mess with tbh, there's enough other details etc on the rest of the kits to not have to decide to fuck with the flag.

    You may call them snowflakes, but imagine the uproar in very patriotic countries like the US and France, if they added a flag with different colours onto the jersey
    You’ve got to be kidding . Most French people don’t bother to watch the national football team until they get to the semis.

    In 2018 I came back from England the day after France won the World Cup and there wasn’t a single sign that anything had happened. Nothing at all. Life as usual.

    Probably less than half of the kids at my son’s football club even support France! When they played Morocco in 2022 there was more noise about town for the Moroccan national team. I don’t live in a town with a disproportionate immigrant population.  It’s just that the majority of French of French origin don’t care enough.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Ok £85 isnt too bad but £125 ? Though saying that im saying £85 isnt too bad if i was a single parent or on low income i suppose it could be too much.

    Aswell its mainly gonna target kids isnt it ? As a man in my 30s ive kind of outgrown the trend of buying the latest football shirt and on the occasion i do its usually just a vintage style.


    Not too bad! They probably only cost 5 pounds to produce.

     In my opinion, 30 pounds should be about right. They’re all flimsy anyway. Why should they cost anymore than a normal shirt?

  • sam3110 said:
    It's a dumb thing to mess with tbh, there's enough other details etc on the rest of the kits to not have to decide to fuck with the flag.

    You may call them snowflakes, but imagine the uproar in very patriotic countries like the US and France, if they added a flag with different colours onto the jersey
    You’ve got to be kidding . Most French people don’t bother to watch the national football team until they get to the semis.

    In 2018 I came back from England the day after France won the World Cup and there wasn’t a single sign that anything had happened. Nothing at all. Life as usual.

    Probably less than half of the kids at my son’s football club even support France! When they played Morocco in 2022 there was more noise about town for the Moroccan national team. I don’t live in a town with a disproportionate immigrant population.  It’s just that the majority of French of French origin don’t care enough.
    Remember being in Paris for France v Spain at Euro 2000, trying to find somewhere to watch it was so difficult, everywhere closed (think it was a Sunday) or not showing it.

    Ended up in a little Greek restaurant worh the owners and chefs - the Greeks and Brits in there were watching, the French barely looked up when they scored the winner.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Doesn’t surprise me.

    A large number of people in France are actually embarrassed to say they like football. People moan about it all the time because of the commercialism and money in the game. The very same people who moan about football capitalism subscribe to Bein Sports and contribute to the very same rampant commercialism.

    No shame in saying you like Rugby however. That’s honorable.

    I went into Inter Sports in September to see if they had the English national team shirt. This shop is in a big shopping centre in the largest town in the ’departement.’ There was not one single national football team shirt for sale of any nationality. None at all. I was advised to come back this Spring (basically when people mught start thinking of the Euros).

    If the French national football team shirt had a small flag on the back with a bit of purple in it, I think it would go unnoticed.  The price wouldn’t however.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    The nadir of England shirts was that template design Nike used for several countries, the one with the light blue sleeves. Nike got incredibly lazy around that time with their template shirts.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    I love England but have no opinion on this shirt issue; I just don't notice.
    I spend my time analysing football patterns and fluidity of movement not emblems.
    Who scored the most goals is the most Interesting for me ( No shit Sherlock!)

    I mute anthems including the British  National Anthem as it's rubbish and I don't want to hear Sportsmen or women trying to sing it. 
    The dick who stands right in front of players with the camera up their noses can do one.

    Geopolitics (Tim Marshall )is my thing so I understand what badges, emblems, flags and nationalism means to the masses.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited March 2024

    is this OK to do?
    Not come here for an argument, just wanted to point out the floor in your point. The flag you've shared is to remember police officers (blue stripe) who've died (black) in the line of duty. The St George's Cross on the England kit is meant to identify the team playing in it. Anything other than a red cross on white background doesn't do that, so to me at least, this ain't the St George's Cross, it's a pattern that's unconnected and looks a bit out of place imo.

    Anyway, I've just redesigned the LGBT Rainbow flag -


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    People are going to be very upset when they find out what’s already been planned for the 2024 Olympics…