I really don’t want to criticise but I’ve honestly got nothing out of this.
The questions from the Zoom reps were far too long winded and gave us nothing of interest (banner news - jeez).
Why didn’t someone test out the microphone levels from Sparrows Lane? Someone should also have tested the zoom reps out and told them to turn off background noise etc.
No one questioned the answers. Nathan was asked are we looking at adding more pace to the squad like TC and Small. The answer was about how well TC and Small have played without actually answering the question.
The answer about the floodlights was basically that they were aware of it and it could be caused by a number of issues. That’s not an answer.
Such a wasted opportunity.
Also, is there a more unlikeable character than Rodwell? There’s something I really don’t like about him.
I really want to be more positive but I feel really let down by the questions that were presented to them.
They have had 3 weeks to try and resolve the issue with the floodlights. As you say there was no proper answer to the question. If Methven is saying its within the guidelines at present then fine, but if a couple more bulbs go in that North West corner before the problem is resolved then you have a issue on your hands re completing a fixture especially before the clocks go forward at the end of March
Charlotte "can you let us know what turnstile is not working", well two things, surely they should already know, and if they really don't it would take one bloke with a season ticket card half an hour walking around the ground to find out.
I'm not sure why everyone keeps asking them about buying The Valley, its not happening they have no interest in it, they will only want to buy it if we somehow fluke getting into the prem, even then I'm not even sure they would. Prob take their profits and run.
It’s becoming increasingly clear to me that our number one missive is to develop young players to then sell them
Think that’s quite obvious, and that we want to buy players to develop and sell.
I don’t really see the problem with this, they have already shown they aren’t going to accept the first offer for our young players and are doing better than previous regimes at getting them on contracts so that we get the maximum value for them
If we develop our own players or buy and develop players that become good enough to make a profit on, then that means we are developing and signing good players and will be doing well
I think the intent of Heather's question was to gauge if the board are aware of the fans' views and issues. Unfortunately they were able sidestep it quite comfortably.
I think the intent of Heather's question was to gauge if the board are aware of the fans' views and issues. Unfortunately they were able sidestep it quite comfortably.
Thing is the answer to that is easy. "We've set up the new structure so that we can hear directly from fans and we're really excited about it". Sounds like a win without saying anything
Jon Whitfield and Lewis Catt appointed to the new Advisory Board.
Get the fuck in Defo the two best candidates
Brilliant. They should be running the supporters Trust as well.
Of course anyone who wants to change the trust could stand for election on the board, doesn’t seem to happen people just pile on. I haven’t been able to watch tonight and I’m sure the criticism is valid but if people want to change something they have the option to
Nothing wrong with the concept of a Supporters Trust. Every club should have one, but its how its run is important
Name one that is run significantly better, and how exactly.
Alternatively stand for election, get voted in, and show us all how to run it better.
Question about the use of the away shirts and colour clash issues. Methven says next season unlikely to be the case from next season, but can't go into details as yet.
Excellent. So nice to hear what is going on and how it all works. Pleased we have owners that are prepared to rebuild everything that has been broken over the last 10 years and that there is a real professional approach to everything we do. Not been a great season on the pitch but gates up. Things really are on the up. Jones really getting to grips with recruitment and development. I feel more positive that we are actually going to get out of this crap league quite soon, and make a fist of staying up.
I like how they kept using the fact we are in the middle of a transfer window as an excuse when it suited them (where Andy Scott is, why the SMT was fragmented on the day etc etc) but were completely evasive about us signing anyone - these things can't both be true at the same time can they????
Also why do we always end up with SMTs who want to do things completely different to what the whole rest of the football league is doing and is tried and true? Like we have to trust that they know something the whole rest of the league doesn't!? Oh the loan market doesn't work for the small clubs - well why do they ALL do it thennnnn??? Oh we have had more bad loans than good ones? Well that says more about your shitty fucking scouting network than it does about the loan market.
That whole thing was frustrating beyond belief and the sad thing is I knew that was what they were going to say going in and I still wasted my time watching it..
Jon Whitfield and Lewis Catt appointed to the new Advisory Board.
Get the fuck in Defo the two best candidates
Brilliant. They should be running the supporters Trust as well.
If they are members then they can stand for election to the board, as you could, as anyone who is a member can whenever a board position becomes available.
It's not what it's cracked up to be though - I was lead to believe it carried a £500k salary and a permanent seat in the Directors' box, rather than giving up time on a voluntary basis to do the best for our club, and being on the receiving end of abuse for doing so.
Sorry, but a waste of time, people shouldn't even bother tuning in.
Ultimately the two most important things (promotion and ground ownership) are solved by money, and it appears we have owners that aren't willing to break the bank to get it done.
We won't improve our fan base, as there's too many London clubs better than us, we are currently the 3rd worst professional London football club out of 13 (I am not including the non league riff raff). Until that changes, we won't attract new fans (on a large scale) unless they are generational fans.
I'd actually be happy for them to say at this point "we don't have the money to bring you back to the Premier league, we are aiming to keep you afloat until we can make you a more ambitious project to purchase for someone else and make some potential profit on you". Deadly serious as well. I don't believe for a second these owners care further than viewing us as a 3-5 year flip project.
You cannot and I can't emphasise this enough, cannot sustain in this league for a club of our size in London. We are being swallowed every year by more ambitious clubs around us. Brentford as an example are a much bigger club than us now. Forget history, no one cares that we had a good few years in the prem. They dwarf us in following and riches now, that would have been inconceivable only over a decade or so ago. How bad can it get in another decade?
I think people genuinely underestimate how broken we are at times based on youtube chats etc.
All these questions about signs, turnstiles and food options do my nut in. I want to watch Charlton be a team that plays at the top level or at least the second level. Not mixing it up with bloody Shrewsbury, Northampton etc every year. (Sorry any Salops and Cobblers who may be floating about.)
It's imperative we get out of this league and become a good football side again, and it feels like cold water is being thrown on that to me. It's all about being 'sensible' and you just can't be in the modern game, you'll be left behind.
Jon Whitfield and Lewis Catt appointed to the new Advisory Board.
Get the fuck in Defo the two best candidates
Brilliant. They should be running the supporters Trust as well.
Of course anyone who wants to change the trust could stand for election on the board, doesn’t seem to happen people just pile on. I haven’t been able to watch tonight and I’m sure the criticism is valid but if people want to change something they have the option to
Nothing wrong with the concept of a Supporters Trust. Every club should have one, but its how its run is important
Name one that is run significantly better, and how exactly.
Alternatively stand for election, get voted in, and show us all how to run it better.
no knowledge on the trust either pro or anti, just think that the questions, that they thought to be important to the fans, were completely misjudged and therefore give the impression that they do not have their finger on the pulse of what is the fans priorities.
I like how they kept using the fact we are in the middle of a transfer window as an excuse when it suited them (where Andy Scott is, why the SMT was fragmented on the day etc etc) but were completely evasive about us signing anyone - these things can't both be true at the same time can they????
Also why do we always end up with SMTs who want to do things completely different to what the whole rest of the football league is doing and is tried and true? Like we have to trust that they know something the whole rest of the league doesn't!? Oh the loan market doesn't work for the small clubs - well why do they ALL do it thennnnn??? Oh we have had more bad loans than good ones? Well that says more about your shitty fucking scouting network than it does about the loan market.
That whole thing was frustrating beyond belief and the sad thing is I knew that was what they were going to say going in and I still wasted my time watching it..
The comments on loans are fkn ridiculous. Even the best clubs in the world utilise loans.
If you are afraid to splash cash, loans are what can save you.
As for the concern about recalls if they do well, I don't understand the concern. If a player does well and is recalled, chances are they've made an impact/earned us points, and there should always be plans in place to replace said player with a like for like. These are proper basics in recruitment.
Thought Methven was what he always is at these things , very slick PR answers that don't really ever fully answer the question he's asked. Gavin Carter is fine , it's clearly not his natural thing.
Rodwell I just can't put my finger on why I just can't trust anything he says. Feels like someone that clearly thinks highly of themselves but isn't actually good at their job.
It’s becoming increasingly clear to me that our number one missive is to develop young players to then sell them
Nothing new there and with the money it costs to run the club it makes sense, as long as it's combined with genuine ambition for the first team and we see that through good progress on the pitch (not saying we are, but we will have done if we have a strong end to the season).
Sorry, but a waste of time, people shouldn't even bother tuning in.
Ultimately the two most important things (promotion and ground ownership) are solved by money, and it appears we have owners that aren't willing to break the bank to get it done.
We won't improve our fan base, as there's too many London clubs better than us, we are currently the 3rd worst professional London football club out of 13 (I am not including the non league riff raff). Until that changes, we won't attract new fans unless they are generational fans.
I'd actually be happy for them to say at this point "we don't have the money to bring you back to the Premier league, we are aiming to keep you afloat until we can make you a more ambitious project to purchase for someone else and make some potential profit on you". Deadly serious as well. I don't believe for a second these owners care further than viewing us as a 3-5 year flip project.
You cannot and I can't emphasise this enough, cannot sustain in this league for a club of our size in London. We are being swallowed every year by more ambitious clubs around us. Brentford as an example are a much bigger club than us now. Forget history, no one cares that we had a good few years in the prem. They dwarf us in following and riches now, that would have been inconceivable only over a decade or so ago. How bad can it get in another decade?
I think people genuinely underestimate how broken we are at times based on youtube chats etc.
All these questions about signs, turnstiles and food options do my nut in. I want to watch Charlton be a team that plays at the top level or at least the second level. Not mixing it up with bloody Shrewsbury, Northampton etc every year. (Sorry any Salops and Cobblers who may be floating about.)
It's imperative we get out of this league and become a good football side again, and it feels like cold water is being thrown on that to me. It's all about being 'sensible' and you just can't be in the modern game, you'll be left behind.
I like how they kept using the fact we are in the middle of a transfer window as an excuse when it suited them (where Andy Scott is, why the SMT was fragmented on the day etc etc) but were completely evasive about us signing anyone - these things can't both be true at the same time can they????
Also why do we always end up with SMTs who want to do things completely different to what the whole rest of the football league is doing and is tried and true? Like we have to trust that they know something the whole rest of the league doesn't!? Oh the loan market doesn't work for the small clubs - well why do they ALL do it thennnnn??? Oh we have had more bad loans than good ones? Well that says more about your shitty fucking scouting network than it does about the loan market.
That whole thing was frustrating beyond belief and the sad thing is I knew that was what they were going to say going in and I still wasted my time watching it..
The comments on loans are fkn ridiculous. Even the best clubs in the world utilise loans.
If you are afraid to splash cash, loans are what can save you.
As for the concern about recalls if they do well, I don't understand the concern. If a player does well and is recalled, chances are they've made an impact/earned us points, and there should always be plans in place to replace said player with a like for like. These are proper basics in recruitment.
Indeed. I also call bullshit on saying that we don't see any future benefits as well as the short term ones we would get from quality season long loans of talented young players- if Rak Saki as an example were to get sold abroad for 20 million in a couple of years we would be entitled to a not insignificant solidarity payment - and that is in perpetuity with every international move until he retires - so not to mention the goals he scored and the fact he was player of the season, there is also a potential financial carrot there too - not something to necessarily hang your hat on but it IS a thing and a potential revenue source - but that fact is completely disregarded because it doesn't fit the narrative they are trying to spin that the small club just gets financially shafted with no long term benefits when the player goes on to further success.
I like how they kept using the fact we are in the middle of a transfer window as an excuse when it suited them (where Andy Scott is, why the SMT was fragmented on the day etc etc) but were completely evasive about us signing anyone - these things can't both be true at the same time can they????
Also why do we always end up with SMTs who want to do things completely different to what the whole rest of the football league is doing and is tried and true? Like we have to trust that they know something the whole rest of the league doesn't!? Oh the loan market doesn't work for the small clubs - well why do they ALL do it thennnnn??? Oh we have had more bad loans than good ones? Well that says more about your shitty fucking scouting network than it does about the loan market.
That whole thing was frustrating beyond belief and the sad thing is I knew that was what they were going to say going in and I still wasted my time watching it..
The comments on loans are fkn ridiculous. Even the best clubs in the world utilise loans.
If you are afraid to splash cash, loans are what can save you.
As for the concern about recalls if they do well, I don't understand the concern. If a player does well and is recalled, chances are they've made an impact/earned us points, and there should always be plans in place to replace said player with a like for like. These are proper basics in recruitment.
Again, well said
I've said on the transfer rumours thread last week that we wont be signing anyone significant & hence why I dont really post on there. Waste of time.
As for loans......see my earlier comment.
I wonder how long it will take the yanks to realise they've been had & want to pull out. Another season maybe ?? Losing £10m a season (the figures said £9m but that was on the optimistic side) isnt sustainable for too much longer, esp when on the pitch we are being fed dross on a weekly basis.
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If we develop our own players or buy and develop players that become good enough to make a profit on, then that means we are developing and signing good players and will be doing well
So nice to hear what is going on and how it all works. Pleased we have owners that are prepared to rebuild everything that has been broken over the last 10 years and that there is a real professional approach to everything we do.
Not been a great season on the pitch but gates up. Things really are on the up.
Jones really getting to grips with recruitment and development. I feel more positive that we are actually going to get out of this crap league quite soon, and make a fist of staying up.
Also why do we always end up with SMTs who want to do things completely different to what the whole rest of the football league is doing and is tried and true? Like we have to trust that they know something the whole rest of the league doesn't!? Oh the loan market doesn't work for the small clubs - well why do they ALL do it thennnnn??? Oh we have had more bad loans than good ones? Well that says more about your shitty fucking scouting network than it does about the loan market.
That whole thing was frustrating beyond belief and the sad thing is I knew that was what they were going to say going in and I still wasted my time watching it..
Ultimately the two most important things (promotion and ground ownership) are solved by money, and it appears we have owners that aren't willing to break the bank to get it done.
We won't improve our fan base, as there's too many London clubs better than us, we are currently the 3rd worst professional London football club out of 13 (I am not including the non league riff raff). Until that changes, we won't attract new fans (on a large scale) unless they are generational fans.
I'd actually be happy for them to say at this point "we don't have the money to bring you back to the Premier league, we are aiming to keep you afloat until we can make you a more ambitious project to purchase for someone else and make some potential profit on you". Deadly serious as well. I don't believe for a second these owners care further than viewing us as a 3-5 year flip project.
You cannot and I can't emphasise this enough, cannot sustain in this league for a club of our size in London. We are being swallowed every year by more ambitious clubs around us. Brentford as an example are a much bigger club than us now. Forget history, no one cares that we had a good few years in the prem. They dwarf us in following and riches now, that would have been inconceivable only over a decade or so ago. How bad can it get in another decade?
I think people genuinely underestimate how broken we are at times based on youtube chats etc.
All these questions about signs, turnstiles and food options do my nut in. I want to watch Charlton be a team that plays at the top level or at least the second level. Not mixing it up with bloody Shrewsbury, Northampton etc every year. (Sorry any Salops and Cobblers who may be floating about.)
It's imperative we get out of this league and become a good football side again, and it feels like cold water is being thrown on that to me. It's all about being 'sensible' and you just can't be in the modern game, you'll be left behind.
If you are afraid to splash cash, loans are what can save you.
As for the concern about recalls if they do well, I don't understand the concern. If a player does well and is recalled, chances are they've made an impact/earned us points, and there should always be plans in place to replace said player with a like for like. These are proper basics in recruitment.
Dobson own goal from the reverse angle. May didn’t get a touch!
Rodwell I just can't put my finger on why I just can't trust anything he says. Feels like someone that clearly thinks highly of themselves but isn't actually good at their job.
I've said on the transfer rumours thread last week that we wont be signing anyone significant & hence why I dont really post on there. Waste of time.
As for loans......see my earlier comment.
I wonder how long it will take the yanks to realise they've been had & want to pull out. Another season maybe ?? Losing £10m a season (the figures said £9m but that was on the optimistic side) isnt sustainable for too much longer, esp when on the pitch we are being fed dross on a weekly basis.
What did you cook for dinner Golfie and was it nice?
The starter was shit (0-1) but the main course (1-1) and the desert (2-1) were both delicious.