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Netherlands v England

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Literally the worst use or VAR I have ever seen, absolutely ridiculous 
    A studs up challenge is dangerous play and is a foul and a booking. The 'obvious error' was thinking it was a clean clash of feet rather than a studs up one.
    Studs up isn't mentioned in the laws....was it careless or reckless?  Obviously not
    Assume you've never played the game? I've only played Sunday league level and even there a studs up challenge is dangerous and falls under the definition of reckless.
    I referee.....VaR is re-refereeing the game instead of intervening in clear and obvious errors.  Show me the law that says you can't put your studs up.
    Do you know who else referees? The referee tonight, and he gave a penalty. I bet he’s a better ref than you.

    Only after he was told to go and look at the monitor by VAR.
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,258
    i think we have been brilliant. The dutch have been really poor - they have played a bit like how we played in the previous games imo
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited July 2024
    Couldn't give a toss if it was or wasn't a penalty. That's for '93, Koeman...
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    edited July 2024
    Excellent half from us, would bring on Shaw and Toney at the restart though, 


  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    edited July 2024
    Cmon England, do it for Graham Taylor!



  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Would like to see Shaw on the left for Trippier 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,855
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Literally the worst use or VAR I have ever seen, absolutely ridiculous 
    A studs up challenge is dangerous play and is a foul and a booking. The 'obvious error' was thinking it was a clean clash of feet rather than a studs up one.
    Studs up isn't mentioned in the laws....was it careless or reckless?  Obviously not
    Assume you've never played the game? I've only played Sunday league level and even there a studs up challenge is dangerous and falls under the definition of reckless.
    I referee.....VaR is re-refereeing the game instead of intervening in clear and obvious errors.  Show me the law that says you can't put your studs up.
    Do you know who else referees? The referee tonight, and he gave a penalty. I bet he’s a better ref than you.
    I've never been done for match fixing
    Just looked it up, neither was he…
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2024
    i think we have been brilliant. The dutch have been really poor - they have played a bit like how we played in the previous games imo
    The scores 1-1 and the Dutch are well capable of scoring again despite the fact we are bossing the midfield.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Would like to see Shaw on the left for Trippier 
    Wonder if he had a set back in training or something. 

    Madness we took him if we knew he wouldn't be fit for even the semi final. 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    If Luke Shaw can give us 45 minutes we win this tie. 

    They've shut down the middle. They are playing really tight on Saka. There is so much space down that left side. 

    Foden has been great. It's scary how confident Mainoo looks.

    Would like to see a bit more from Rice and Jude but otherwise very good.
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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Playing Kane at the moment is like playing without a main striker he needs to decide if he is a striker or midfielder 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Shaw's minutes have to be managed. Out for ages, he can't suddenly play full 90s and 120s.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2024
    Would like to see Shaw on the left for Trippier 
    Wonder if he had a set back in training or something. 

    Madness we took him if we knew he wouldn't be fit for even the semi final. 
    Probably got the prospect of Extra-Time on our minds... If he comes on in the 60th minute, he'll play for an hour (max).
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    Box Park, for an England match, looks like one of the seven circles of hell. 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Gary Neville complete twat.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    To offer a neutral view. Spanish TV called it as a penalty immediately and never wavered - once it went to VAR they said it was going to be given.
    You lot need to be a bit more one-eyed!
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Clearly the best 45mins in the tournament so far.

    So poor from Rice to give them the goal.

    Penalty is farcical, but about time England got a dodgy decision in a big game.

    I am concerned that the Dutch will mix it up at Half Time and Southgate won't react. It's also a worry that we keep getting caught man for man on the break. Someone else has got to drop in and give us that extra cover 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,855
    Gary Neville complete twat.
    In fairness we didn’t need tonight to know that.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Would like to see Shaw on the left for Trippier 
    It would give England so much balance on the left.
    Trippier works so hard but everyone and their Auntie knows he has no left foot. He tried to cross one ball with his left and it went to the keeper.

    Think on your feet Gareth and get Shaw on at least by 60 minutes.
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Looks like Shaw for Trippier which makes sense.
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  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,258
    i think we have been brilliant. The dutch have been really poor - they have played a bit like how we played in the previous games imo
    The scores 1-1 and they are well capable of scoring again despite the fact we are bossing the midfield.
    Yeah? That's what I meant - they HAVE been poor. But have a goal in them despite the midfield being bossed by the opposition. A bit like us in the last few games?? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Doesnt that goal for Kane take him level in the race for the Golden Boot?
  • Can we please sort this out in 90 minutes please.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,621
    Finally we have turned up, and played like we can - expansive, creative, attacking - flair players given licence 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2024
    philcafc said:
    Looks like Shaw for Trippier which makes sense.
    Hmm not sure if I like it to be honest, feels too early

    Then again we're not losing one of our three stoppages to make subs by making it at HT... Worst case scenario we can swap him for Eze with our sixth sub in ET
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    CAFCTrev said:
    Thats revenge for Koeman in 93!
    I know that was said in jest, but in reality its karma for Lampard's "goal" against the Germans in 2010. That incident was the catalyst for VAR being introduced. 

    14 years later & we get retribution. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Can we please sort this out in 90 minutes please.
    My nerves cant take it already, so yes please
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    To offer a neutral view. Spanish TV called it as a penalty immediately and never wavered - once it went to VAR they said it was going to be given.
    You lot need to be a bit more one-eyed!
    “But they’re never given!” is what I’ve seen a lot online already…

    The above argument has some weight. But it should be treated as the foul that it is - anywhere on the pitch it’s an easy free kick and yellow card.

    It’s rarely given because the punishment of a penalty feels harsh because it didn’t prevent the attacker getting a shot off.

    It’s the same as these modern handball rules - a penalty feels too harsh a punishment for whatever benefit the attacker missed out on.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    CAFCTrev said:
    Thats revenge for Koeman in 93!
    I know that was said in jest, but in reality its karma for Lampard's "goal" against the Germans in 2010. That incident was the catalyst for VAR being introduced. 

    14 years later & we get retribution. 
    Prolly just easier and quicker to say what Trev said
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2024

    Let's fucking ave it lads.