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Olympics 2024
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I'm for sports (preferable amateur) where winning the Olympics is the crowing achievement. So yes to squash and goodbye football, tennis, golf etc.MarcusH26 said:Squash coming to the LA Games will be quite an interesting addition.2 -
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
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Watching the women's Modern Pentathlon, the horses seemed quite well behaved this year.0
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Emile Cairess fourth in the marathon. We do seem to be getting a lot of 4th places, but this one was a case of winning the sprint for 4th when the top 3 were a long way up the road, not the usual thing of missing a medal by a tiny fraction. And he'd been contesting the medals for quite a lot of the race which can't have made that sprint any easier. Well done.0
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Robinsons ?MarcusH26 said:Squash coming to the LA Games will be quite an interesting addition.4 -
Well said.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.0 -
Love watching the climbing, even if with my fear of heights, it's up there with my worst nightmares
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I find it bizarre, and actually quite worrying, that some people can form some very clear and entrenched views based on "facts" that just aren't true at all.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
Obviously we've seen that recently with all the aggro around the UK, but this is another example of where the facts don't seem to trouble some people.
For example, my mum is insistent that the Algerian "is a man", even though nobody in any sort of official, or semi-official, capacity has ever said that, as far as I'm aware.3 -
JK Rowling has a lot to answer for.
Starting with Harry Potter - which was shit.9 -
Russian propaganda.Off_it said:
I find it bizarre, and actually quite worrying, that some people can form some very clear and entrenched views based on "facts" that just aren't true at all.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
Obviously we've seen that recently with all the aggro around the UK, but this is another example of where the facts don't seem to trouble some people.
For example, my mum is insistent that the Algerian "is a man", even though nobody in any sort of official, or semi-official, capacity has ever said that, as far as I'm aware.
Gold for China in the 102kg male weightlifting. Great atmosphere with a lot or Chinese and Armenian fans in attendance. I kept my union flag in the bag as we didn't have anyone competing but quite a few were on display.
Incredible seeing people snatching 160kg as easy as i can do 20 kg (no plates) proper Olympians.0 - Sponsored links:
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Just read about the other American woman who received a gold for the 400 metres.
Lashinda Demus (amongst others) was awarded hers in a ceremony at the Trochadero yesterday, after being cheated out of gold in 2012 by a Russian drug taking rogue. Heaven knows why it takes so long to right these wrongs? I believe that samples are stored in order for the technology to catch up in some cases.
https://sports.yahoo.com/olympic-medal-reallocation-ceremony-finally-gives-lashinda-demus-and-erik-kynard-their-golden-moment-12-years-later-115409002.html
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I wasn’t talking about the boxer in question when I said that.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
Leaving aside the IBA, the IOC used the fact that this particular boxer was identified as female on her birth certificate therefore her passport says female.
Thats it, that’s the evidence that was deemed good enough.
Thats not science.
Until real science is used, I refuse to be told by any man that there hasn’t been an injustice here.2 -
I'm on the fence on this difficult issue, but if you weren't talking about the boxer in question that everyone else is talking about, who/what are you talking about?KBslittlesis said:
I wasn’t talking about the boxer in question when I said that.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
Leaving aside the IBA, the IOC used the fact that this particular boxer was identified as female on her birth certificate therefore her passport says female.
Thats it, that’s the evidence that was deemed good enough.
Thats not science.
Until real science is used, I refuse to be told by any man that there hasn’t been an injustice here.0 -
The amount of aggression being shown towards a female poster you should sign up for the women’s boxing….4
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What evidence do you need?KBslittlesis said:
Pathetic is assuming I was actually talking about the boxer here. I wasn’tsam3110 said:
Pathetic response to something you clearly know nothing about and have just jumped on the bigot bandwagon. Have a look at yourself and maybe educate yourself on the situation before labelling someone as a "man" when they fundamentally are not, it's at best incredibly ignorant and at worst transphobicKBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
How do you know I know nothing about it?
I do.
How am I being transphobic when this particular boxer isn’t trans? They identify as female and I’m not disputing the fact that they identify as such. That’s up to them.
What isn’t right is that there has been no evidence that she is scientifically a female. And I refuse to be lectured to by men (because let’s face it, most on here in the boxers corner, are men) that tell me my and other women’s reservations on this issue are irrelevant and then throw the anti trans rubbish at us.
Her passport says she is female and I'm sure her birth certificate says the same thing.
If you say that having a womb/female external organs is evidence then would you want every female competitor strip-searched before every event, removing them of their dignity? Or only the 'manly' looking ones? What if she passed that, is that enough?
If you say it's about the XX chromosome. There's 1 in every 25,000 men that have a XX chromosome. Are they now allowed, as men, to compete in a female event because of their chromosomes?
This is why the talk about 'they're not female enough' is such a difficult thing to judge and measure.0 -
Pretty sure the Russians who did the test were men. Want them to test you?KBslittlesis said:
Pathetic is assuming I was actually talking about the boxer here. I wasn’tsam3110 said:
Pathetic response to something you clearly know nothing about and have just jumped on the bigot bandwagon. Have a look at yourself and maybe educate yourself on the situation before labelling someone as a "man" when they fundamentally are not, it's at best incredibly ignorant and at worst transphobicKBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
How do you know I know nothing about it?
I do.
How am I being transphobic when this particular boxer isn’t trans? They identify as female and I’m not disputing the fact that they identify as such. That’s up to them.
What isn’t right is that there has been no evidence that she is scientifically a female. And I refuse to be lectured to by men (because let’s face it, most on here in the boxers corner, are men) that tell me my and other women’s reservations on this issue are irrelevant and then throw the anti trans rubbish at us.0 -
Noah Williams... Top bombing 👍0
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That's gotta be bronze!!2
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Great to see how happy the divers are for each other0
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Wow what a final dive for Noah. Especially after his struggles this morning0
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Well done Noah Williams.0
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Cunningham just about to fight in the taekwondo for a place in the final.
And he wins!2 -
The final at 8:200
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Wrestling next.1 -
I hope you see plenty of snatchFriend Or Defoe said:
Wrestling next.3 -
Hang on, hang on. I know this can be an emotive subject, but that's the second or third time you've said you're refusing to listen to opinions just because they have been given by men. Is that really what you meant to say? If so then that's a very slippery slope to be going down ....... it's in the same ball park as a man saying he wouldn't listen to the opinion of a woman about football, just because shes a woman.KBslittlesis said:
I wasn’t talking about the boxer in question when I said that.Swindon_Addick said:
She isn't a man. No-one is claiming that she's a man, including those who are claiming that she has a chromosomal irregularity that would make her ineligible for women's sport. The people making those claims have no credibility, but even they don't think she's trans.KBslittlesis said:Men telling me that a man winning a women’s event is irrelevant.
Yeah, cheers guys.
The lack of credibility of the IBA doesn't in itself prove that they're lying, neither does the fact that when they held their press conference they couldn't even agree what test they were claiming they'd run that she'd failed. But I want to seem some actual evidence before we start disqualifying people, and I want to know why that evidence wasn't presented to the IOC in advance so that, if one or both of the two boxers isn't eligible, they could have been excluded without ruining the competition for everyone else.
Leaving aside the IBA, the IOC used the fact that this particular boxer was identified as female on her birth certificate therefore her passport says female.
Thats it, that’s the evidence that was deemed good enough.
Thats not science.
Until real science is used, I refuse to be told by any man that there hasn’t been an injustice here.5 -
*High Crotchkillerandflash said:
I hope you see plenty of snatchFriend Or Defoe said:
Wrestling next.0 -
Why were some posts deleted but others left up? Don’t think I said anything particularly inflammatory…0
