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London Senior Cup 2024-5 - QF away at Dulwich Hamlet, Tues 25th Feb 7:45 pm (p6)

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,799
    fenaddick said:
    Dixon goals

    https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1861766261702525193?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
    Very Rodney Marsh-esque with the first. 
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 727
    Will someone from Admin, change the heading, please?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    @admin
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,300
    That doesn't work Henry, you have to at us by name. Do we have a confirmed date and location yet @killerjerrylee ?
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 727
    No date has been fixed yet.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,300
    OK, that'll have to do for the mo then. At me in once we know the details, and I'll update the title properly.
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,645
    Dulwich apparently got more than 500 for their game against Orient under-21 earlier in the competition, and it was on a date that clashed with an Orient home game. Really hoping we can agree to play it at their place.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Swindon_Addick said:
    Dulwich apparently got more than 500 for their game against Orient under-21 earlier in the competition, and it was on a date that clashed with an Orient home game. Really hoping we can agree to play it at their place.
    For people like me @InspectorSands @seth plum could we have half and half scarves please or maybe 75% 25% scarves
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    Kap10 said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    Dulwich apparently got more than 500 for their game against Orient under-21 earlier in the competition, and it was on a date that clashed with an Orient home game. Really hoping we can agree to play it at their place.
    For people like me @InspectorSands @seth plum could we have half and half scarves please or maybe 75% 25% scarves
    Fill your boots if that is how you wish to support the club

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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Kap10 said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    Dulwich apparently got more than 500 for their game against Orient under-21 earlier in the competition, and it was on a date that clashed with an Orient home game. Really hoping we can agree to play it at their place.
    For people like me @InspectorSands @seth plum could we have half and half scarves please or maybe 75% 25% scarves
    Fill your boots if that is how you wish to support the club
    lol, i always support the club the way i wont to, no worry! thanks for your concern! 
  • CoveredEnd1905
    CoveredEnd1905 Posts: 137
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The capacity of Champion Hill is about 3300, with no hope of developing the ground because its future is uncertain.
    If it could be resolved you could easily get a neat 6000 capacity stadium there within a five minute walk of East Dulwich station.
    The support is what it is, I like it personally because of the general political leaning of most of their supporters.
    I hope we play our cup tie there, I will go and definitely be supporting Charlton Athletic, but I certainly wouldn’t have a finger jabbing attitude towards Dulwich Hamlet.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,991
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
    Watched Tonbridge there a couple of times, and went to their local derby against Tooting and Mitcham a few years back. "Hipsters from Peckham, that's what you are" was the Tooting fans' chant, and absolutely hit the nail on the head. 
    Nice to see a non League club doing well, and it seems to be a well run club, but too many political messages, too many hipsters, too many people who aren't really there for the football.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,471
    MrLargo said:
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
    Watched Tonbridge there a couple of times, and went to their local derby against Tooting and Mitcham a few years back. "Hipsters from Peckham, that's what you are" was the Tooting fans' chant, and absolutely hit the nail on the head. 
    Nice to see a non League club doing well, and it seems to be a well run club, but too many political messages, too many hipsters, too many people who aren't really there for the football.
    A bit like this forum, sometimes.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
    Champion Hill is about 15 mins walk from my house and I get there a couple times a season (Dulwich home matches often seem to clash with Charlton home games). It’s probably slightly more than 300 passionate fans, but not much. It does feel pretty inauthentic and people revelling in middle class smarminess. I often wonder what long time fans who’ve been there before the hipsters and gentrifiers turned up think of it all?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    se9addick said:
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
    Champion Hill is about 15 mins walk from my house and I get there a couple times a season (Dulwich home matches often seem to clash with Charlton home games). It’s probably slightly more than 300 passionate fans, but not much. It does feel pretty inauthentic and people revelling in middle class smarminess. I often wonder what long time fans who’ve been there before the hipsters and gentrifiers turned up think of it all?
    Like you I get there two or three times a season, but only when there is no clash with Charlton.
    The notion that 90% of the attendees are not there for the football is at odds with my experience.
    I am intrigued with your phrase ‘middle class smarminess’, and wonder how exactly that manifests itself.
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,645
    I doubt somehow that the hipsters turned out to see them play Orient under-21. So they probably have at least 500 serious fans. Meanwhile we got 2000 to watch us play Chelsea under-21, 300 of those in the away end. I'm not sure we have much excuse to mock them.

    Having said which, just to be clear, the reason I want to play the game there is that I think our under-21s will benefit from experience of playing in front of a decent-sized crowd that's supporting the opposition. They don't get that playing EFL under-21 sides and they won't get it at Dartford. And, with all due respect to Fisher, they didn't get much of a challenge there. We play under-21 matches so as to develop future professionals.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    Swindon_Addick said:
    I doubt somehow that the hipsters turned out to see them play Orient under-21. So they probably have at least 500 serious fans. Meanwhile we got 2000 to watch us play Chelsea under-21, 300 of those in the away end. I'm not sure we have much excuse to mock them.

    Having said which, just to be clear, the reason I want to play the game there is that I think our under-21s will benefit from experience of playing in front of a decent-sized crowd that's supporting the opposition. They don't get that playing EFL under-21 sides and they won't get it at Dartford. And, with all due respect to Fisher, they didn't get much of a challenge there. We play under-21 matches so as to develop future professionals.
    Why?

    The nature of their fanbase is that there are a lot of people who go there for social reasons, as much as for the football, so for many this cup competition is just as attractive as a regular league game. Plus Orient U21s are a glamour tie when compared to most Isthmian Premier opposition.
  • CoveredEnd1905
    CoveredEnd1905 Posts: 137
    edited February 5
    Swindon_Addick said:
    I doubt somehow that the hipsters turned out to see them play Orient under-21. So they probably have at least 500 serious fans. Meanwhile we got 2000 to watch us play Chelsea under-21, 300 of those in the away end. I'm not sure we have much excuse to mock them.

    Having said which, just to be clear, the reason I want to play the game there is that I think our under-21s will benefit from experience of playing in front of a decent-sized crowd that's supporting the opposition. They don't get that playing EFL under-21 sides and they won't get it at Dartford. And, with all due respect to Fisher, they didn't get much of a challenge there. We play under-21 matches so as to develop future professionals.
    That's exactly the type of game hipsters turn out for 😂. Their crowds are never there for the opposition so why would it change then? 

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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Whilst well run, Hamlet are not doing well on the pitch. Having been relegated two seasons ago they have struggled and are possibly in a relegation fight this season. They sacked the manager two weeks ago and are yet to see a manager bounce. Plans to shift and rebuild the stadium are floundering. Despite all of this the crowds have held up.

    I'd say the core is around 1,000 to 1,500. That tended to be the leeks of attendance when " they were shit".
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    edited February 5
    clive said:
    MrLargo said:
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Will that automatically be played at Dulwich's ground?
    It's not automatic - it's officially our home game so due to be at Dartford. But there would be a big crowd at Dulwich and it would be good experience for the players to play in front of a decent-sized crowd cheering for the opposition. I'd definitely like to see us offer to let them host it if they're willing.
    Dulwich get massive crowds for their level, but the number of "passionate supporters" is pretty small.
    Crowds of 2000+ with about 300 people watching the game. I've only been able to bring myself there once with Welling and there were 3 women in front of me who must've done 100 quid each in the club shop. They were all facing away from the pitch and dancing along to the Welling fans singing ffs
    Watched Tonbridge there a couple of times, and went to their local derby against Tooting and Mitcham a few years back. "Hipsters from Peckham, that's what you are" was the Tooting fans' chant, and absolutely hit the nail on the head. 
    Nice to see a non League club doing well, and it seems to be a well run club, but too many political messages, too many hipsters, too many people who aren't really there for the football.
    A bit like this forum, sometimes.
    I’ve never had you down as a hipster @clive 😉
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,188
    Swindon_Addick said:
    Dulwich apparently got more than 500 for their game against Orient under-21 earlier in the competition, and it was on a date that clashed with an Orient home game. Really hoping we can agree to play it at their place.
    I'd expect about the same if Charlton did play the quarter-final there, maybe a bit more. It'd be a relief from Dulwich's dire league form.

    I don't often go to Saturday home matches at Champion Hill now because of the sheer number of day-trippers (without a rich benefactor, the club needs the cash). Granted, if you get there early and bag a seat, it's all good, but then that's not much different from going to a league match. All that said, the actual fanbase - as opposed to people going there as an alternative to Frank's rooftop bar in Peckham - does appear to have grown quite a bit over the past few years, though I don't know how that's  reflected in season ticket sales. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,982
    edited February 5
    Swindon_Addick said:
     I think our under-21s will benefit from experience of playing in front of a decent-sized crowd that's supporting the opposition. 
    We should have played the u21 team against Wrexham at home then.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,982
    edited February 5
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  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,645
    The London FA website is suggesting that the game will be at Dulwich Hamlet. No date is given so until it's confirmed I'm not sure I'll take that as 100% certain.
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 727
    The quarter-final tie will be played on Tuesday 25th February. Venue not yet announced, but probably at Dulwich. 
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 727
    Yes, it will be at Dulwich Hamlet's ground. kick off 7.45.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,982
    Might go to this, how much are tickets for this cup usually?
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,188
    Tickets for the match against Leyton Orient in November were £5. Last year's final (also at Champion Hill) was £10.

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