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POST-MATCH THREAD: Reading vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 31st August 2024 | KO 15:00
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At least the transfer window is still open. 🙂2
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That's the worst performance that the two of them have put in and maybe I'm alone in this but I think any forward worth his salt would have put Campbell's first period half volley on target.Covered End said:
And most are not surprised.BigRedEvil said:First defeat so no point being overly critical but the Ahadme and Campbell combo hasn't resulted in a goal in 4 games1 -
“I know [why Charlton were not at it in the first-half] but I’m not going to say. I’ll deal with that moving forward.”LouisMend said:Intriguing.7 -
Note back, you’ve not made a good start!Brownie12 said:Note to self - swerve CL tonight.11 -
Officially quite frightened of Nathan Jones
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Sums it up for me.Exiled_Addick said:Bit of a reality check but it wasn’t that different to the first three games.
A wise old Llewelyn once said “goals change games”. If Berry had taken that excellent chance at the end of the first half then I think it would have been a different result and another “one nil to the Londoners”. Instead, we weren’t able to keep it water tight, like we have been, and, despite the momentum seeming to have swung our way second half, we conceded a bit or a worldy and had no answer after that.The second goal was a poor one and I suspect a few will get a dressing down from NJ for that.
The lack of creativity in midfield, even as an option off the bench, remains the glaring flaw in the side. Some weeks it won’t matter because the hard work and pressing will give up chances in itself. When the press doesn’t do that, or we can’t take one of the relatively few chances that approach will yield, like today, we will look toothless.
A fully fit and firing Leaburn in for a willing but very limited looking Ahadme could make a big difference, but who knows how fast he can get back to his best, or even what his best still is after such a long layoff. Hopefully Dixon can be a bit of an x-factor too, but he’s another one who we can’t be sure how soon he’ll be ready.
In the meantime, expect more games like today, and lot of clean sheets both for us and the opposition.1 -
Not sure about that one wmc, I think if you look at the players who didn't start today then the quality is there to be brought in, Godden and Campbell for a start, add to that hopefully an October return for Leaburn and Edwards and it doesn't look that bad. I do take your point about the effort levels of some players though, I can't accuse Tyreece Campbell of not trying and he's not a player who gets stuck in, wouldn't be so sure about Josh Edwards replacement though.wmcf123 said:
Just a sign that if we dip beyond our effort levels , we haven’t got a lot of qualityeastterrace6168 said:Going from that post match interview with Nathan, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall, he is absolutely raging at our overall play, particularly regarding the second goal.
Everyone was below par today for some reason, and I can see some very unhappy players after listening to Nathans rant, cos he would have been fuming.
So maybe Rotherham next week, maybe not, I kinda got the feeling that Nathan would welcome the postponement, maybe in order to re educate some players in the way he expects us to play.
We were a pale shadow of the first three games, against Bolton in particular, and basically Reading just outplayed us today, giving us no room and space, however we should have been able to overcome this, they ain't bloody Brazil ffs.
So, be interesting to see how the next game goes, whenever that is because a repeat of today cannot be tolerated...1 -
Proper miserable, hate losing to that lot4
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We’ll beg to differ . It’s not a promotion squad - it’s a team that NJ has managed to get a lot out of , but has fallen short today . They are a good bunch - I regret saying that it’s to do with effort - but I do believe everything will have to go well for us to win games. We will win a lot of matches but I think we will fall short of the top 6. We will be lower if Nathan decides the grass is greener elsewhere and we could be higher if he stays and we find an x factor playerBailey said:
Not sure about that one wmc, I think if you look at the players who didn't start today then the quality is there to be brought in, Godden and Campbell for a start, add to that hopefully an October return for Leaburn and Edwards and it doesn't look that bad. I do take your point about the effort levels of some players though, I can't accuse Tyreece Campbell of not trying and he's not a player who gets stuck in, wouldn't be so sure about Josh Edwards replacement though.wmcf123 said:
Just a sign that if we dip beyond our effort levels , we haven’t got a lot of qualityeastterrace6168 said:Going from that post match interview with Nathan, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall, he is absolutely raging at our overall play, particularly regarding the second goal.
Everyone was below par today for some reason, and I can see some very unhappy players after listening to Nathans rant, cos he would have been fuming.
So maybe Rotherham next week, maybe not, I kinda got the feeling that Nathan would welcome the postponement, maybe in order to re educate some players in the way he expects us to play.
We were a pale shadow of the first three games, against Bolton in particular, and basically Reading just outplayed us today, giving us no room and space, however we should have been able to overcome this, they ain't bloody Brazil ffs.
So, be interesting to see how the next game goes, whenever that is because a repeat of today cannot be tolerated...1 -
What does he mean by that?Exiled_Addick said:
“I know [why Charlton were not at it in the first-half] but I’m not going to say. I’ll deal with that moving forward.”LouisMend said:Intriguing.0 - Sponsored links:
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I just hate losing AFKA...🤷♂️AFKABartram said:Proper miserable, hate losing to that lot0 -
Hard to judge a team on first few games of a season.The three teams we have beaten all lost again today.1
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And scored 24 games in a row until last weekend.Callumcafc said:
Reading at home in 2024:jakecafc said:
Yeah, we should be if we want to go up. They've lost players and only added Chem Campbell who didn't play.Callumcafc said:
Should we?jakecafc said:We should be beating Reading in their current predicament if we want to go up. Hopefully it is just a blip and we smash Rotherham next week. Can't see it though. It really does ruin my weekend when Charlton lose!
They’ve lost 1 in 4. Now the same number as we have.
WWDWWLLWWDWWW
Nine wins, two draws, two losses.3 -
Intriguing...DDOUBLEE said:
What does he mean by that?Exiled_Addick said:
“I know [why Charlton were not at it in the first-half] but I’m not going to say. I’ll deal with that moving forward.”LouisMend said:Intriguing.1 -
It's refreshing to see a manager rage as much as me about conceding utterly pathetic goals.
1st one, meh. Could of closed down better, but great strike from lily Savage.
2nd one...... my christ.... absolute shambles. NJ has every right to react how he did5 -
It’s how we respond now against Rotherham if it goes ahead that matters - even when Chris Powells side bossed this league we lost games8
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Really flat performance, so disappointing....ironically we looked much better in the second half with Anderson's introduction having an impact. Sloppy in possession throughout....Reading looked much more comfortable on the ball.
Second goal killed the game....think Lloyd Jones was the only person in the stadium who thought it was a Charlton throw.
Campbell was full of energy as always but he isn't a striker and doesn't make the types of runs that strikers should (understandably). Given the wingbacks are adding so little going forward it might soon be time to consider a different formation which uses him in a natural position.
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I had wondered to myself during the week how we'd react if we conceded, how we'd cope with going behind, as it was going to happen eventually.
Can our style of play, keeping it defensively tight and relying on opposition mistakes to create chances work when we go behind, and the pressure is on us to create something?0 -
NJ said Watson and Berry were both ill. They arrived late at their hotel. We did not eat on time3
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We were poor. Thought the hype about us after 3 games was OTT, but hope people have some perspective. Been a good start to season1
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All gas and no class ?Garrymanilow said:
Please dear God. We've had some really shit nicknames on here before but this one must set some kind of cringe world record.Valiantphil said:Get Tyreece back on the wing
Drop Terry Small
Start Godden instead of HesnoMay
We lack goals and something has to be done.
WehadMay ?
Churchie 2 ?
Just kidding - but he is crap though.3 -
Absolutely love how pissed off Nathan is and that he mentioned the fans that travelled in numbers. If he gets us, and it hurts him, then the players will not be let off the hook.Redmidland said:
Nah, I like to see that in a manager, he takes defeat as badly as thousands of fans!SuedeAdidas said:As much as I like an honest assessment to a shit performance…….thats a bit dramatic innit?3 -
Agree. That's the sort of response I would expect after a horrendous 5-0 defeat, not one where we have lost but hardly in a terrible way.SuedeAdidas said:As much as I like an honest assessment to a shit performance…….thats a bit dramatic innit?
He should be a bit careful. Things went very wrong at Stoke and Southampton quite quickly. Piss too many people off with that sort of reaction and it could easily happen here.4 -
On the assumption they were not out on the piss this week or getting cocky my guess (as that is all it can be) would be reaction to departures and non departures (and associated conversations) this week.eastterrace6168 said:
Intriguing...DDOUBLEE said:
What does he mean by that?Exiled_Addick said:
“I know [why Charlton were not at it in the first-half] but I’m not going to say. I’ll deal with that moving forward.”LouisMend said:Intriguing.0 -
The second goal was horrendous and deserving of that kind of reaction IMO. The players know the standard and they know they fell short in that moment.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Agree. That's the sort of response I would expect after a horrendous 5-0 defeat, not one where we have lost but hardly in a terrible way.SuedeAdidas said:As much as I like an honest assessment to a shit performance…….thats a bit dramatic innit?
He should be a bit careful. Things went very wrong at Stoke and Southampton quite quickly. Piss too many people off with that sort of reaction and it could easily happen here.
Get beat by a wonder strike, fair enough. Contribute to your own downfall by switching off, moaning at the ref and not getting back into shape is fair game.4 -
Garrymanilow said:
To be fair, we brought in Godden to replace May. I think it's about time he started in place of TC, I reckon his nous will be more useful than Campbell's pace and we can always bring him on later when teams are tired. Campbell just doesn't have the awareness and experience as a striker yet to make the most of the scrappy way we playct_addick said:Ahadme for May…,.what a fucking joke
You're going to get very bored of correcting that as the season goes on....
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PWR and wasn't there and you're probably not going to want to hear this but we were absolute dog shit against Orient for the majority of the game. Went a bit easy on the piss the league sentiments after that1
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I’ve skimmed over this thread so not 100% on how anyone else is feeling but I’m over my initial disappointment, Jones seems to know what went wrong and isn’t particularly happy about it so I think we can expect a reaction next week.
9 Points and a +2 goal difference from four games is a decent return.
we could pick apart certain aspects of the team but it’s very early doors so while we aren’t quite running on all cylinders just yet we are running and I’m far happier with the team and club than I have been for years.
Fuck it, one of those days
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The coaching staff have got some serious thinking to do to get something out of Ahadme. He is not holding the ball up, Campbell is doing that better than he is, and apparently he thrives on crosses into the box, well he's wasting his time waiting for one of those. We are still crap at crossing a deadball and now the best crosser in the club has gone backwards, Thierry Small, there isn't much chance of him getting on the end of anything.0
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Campbell "a real lazy player"? Some shite on here that tales the biscuit. I see hermann has already answered you a lot better than i could. I hope you have the ability to clear the crap from your eyes, and develop your understanding of the game from other's view points, @Brown59Brown59 said:Poor from all today. Can’t believe it was same team who beat Bolton last week. Never at the races and Campbell is a real lazy player and plays too far off the Number 9. His touch is poor. But he wasn’t the only one poor from everyone today. But we’ve been ok so far so hopefully just a blip. Probably needs to cancel next weeks game to reset.2
