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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • And Jon Brady has resigned at Northampton. Popular there. Wonder if he has somewhere else to be..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8rjlg1znp2o
  • BoysOwn said:
    God fearing prick is Jones. Wouldn't trust him to fill an ark though.

  • Jones....lost the dressing room. Knows it, and is now trying to engineer being sacked. If this is not the case, then he's madder than any of us realised!

  • The snipey arsey comments when we win a game and then the subsequent disappearance of the spikey cnutishness when it all goes back to shit make him look a complete bell .
    I love his enthusiasm but he’s just a dinosaur in football coaching terms .
    can the next shit manager arrive soon please 
    That closing line needs to be framed :) An absolute classic.
  • Melrose said:
    Jones....lost the dressing room. Knows it, and is now trying to engineer being sacked. If this is not the case, then he's madder than any of us realised!

    If he's as excitable in the dressing room as in the dug out, you can expect sparks to have flown.
    My guess is that he's not Mr Popular and reflects on the pitch.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    It’s not working with jones. But I have no idea who the answer would be. I’m all out of passion for it now 
    Same position here. I've lost almost all interest in Charlton. I tend to work whilst the game streams are on. 

    My kids even said after Saturday's cup win,

    "Why do they never win when we're there?"

    They dread coming to games already, they're 7 and 4. 😭
    Same here, my Son will be eight on Sunday, his Charlton top was on his birthday list.

    I’m struggling to keep him interested, all his friends are West Ham and Arsenal (we live in Essex). Will be at the next home match, but if things don’t improve I’ve lost him to Charlton. He was really upset this week.

    A real pity as my parents, grand parents and great grandad attended Charlton matches (lived in Kinveachy Gardens and my Grandad’s ashes are in the memorial garden at The Valley). 
    It would be the end of our family line supporting Charlton.

    I’m not is the Jones camp, never have been. Fully understand the ‘give them time’ comments, but anyone in Management who doesn’t listen and won’t adapt will fail. Jones doesn’t come across as someone who listens much, as was highlighted by plenty of Southampton and Stoke fans.
    I read these comments and still laugh at Charlie Methvens comments about a young fans experience at games and how it's not entirely dependent on a result. Absolute nonsense. 

    I'm having the same issues with you two every week with my younger cousins. The older one, forget about it, he's told me he just can't be bothered and feels he can do better with his time at the weekends than go Charlton, the younger one will still go home games (as he has a season ticket) but has missed a few and has said no more away games until there are improvements as he also feels he has better things to do.


    The saddest part of your story is that these children both have better things to do with their time than me!
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  • se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    It’s not working with jones. But I have no idea who the answer would be. I’m all out of passion for it now 
    Same position here. I've lost almost all interest in Charlton. I tend to work whilst the game streams are on. 

    My kids even said after Saturday's cup win,

    "Why do they never win when we're there?"

    They dread coming to games already, they're 7 and 4. 😭
    Same here, my Son will be eight on Sunday, his Charlton top was on his birthday list.

    I’m struggling to keep him interested, all his friends are West Ham and Arsenal (we live in Essex). Will be at the next home match, but if things don’t improve I’ve lost him to Charlton. He was really upset this week.

    A real pity as my parents, grand parents and great grandad attended Charlton matches (lived in Kinveachy Gardens and my Grandad’s ashes are in the memorial garden at The Valley). 
    It would be the end of our family line supporting Charlton.

    I’m not is the Jones camp, never have been. Fully understand the ‘give them time’ comments, but anyone in Management who doesn’t listen and won’t adapt will fail. Jones doesn’t come across as someone who listens much, as was highlighted by plenty of Southampton and Stoke fans.
    I read these comments and still laugh at Charlie Methvens comments about a young fans experience at games and how it's not entirely dependent on a result. Absolute nonsense. 

    I'm having the same issues with you two every week with my younger cousins. The older one, forget about it, he's told me he just can't be bothered and feels he can do better with his time at the weekends than go Charlton, the younger one will still go home games (as he has a season ticket) but has missed a few and has said no more away games until there are improvements as he also feels he has better things to do.


    The saddest part of your story is that these children both have better things to do with their time than me!
    If winning and buzz around the valley, it would be different.. Pretty sure you can go to the park on Sunday morning, and see better football played.
  • J BLOCK said:
    Jones’s credibility as a coach is now hanging by a thread. Should he ultimately fail at Charlton, I’d struggle to see him getting a gig anywhere above league two and possibly not even that. He must be a worried man deep down but he’s too barking mad to change what he’s doing. I think he’ll start next season but I reckon we’ll be having this conversation in earnest this time next year.
    Not a chance he'll be here next season imo.
    Lose at Lincoln and at home to Mansfield and he won't make Xmas. 
    This SMT are in too deep with him to sack him. Big old contract and in getting rid they show the actual owners they've failed AGAIN. 
    You could say that *not* getting rid would show the owners that they won’t act when they should act. 
    And there’ll be a dismissal clause in his contract. They won’t have to pay but the full 3 & 1/2 years. 
  • Regarding Jones immediate or in this case lack of immediate future I think there’s a lot more wishful thinking going on rather than considered views. 
    After what we as a fanbase have been through in recent years a bit of hope and wishful thinking is all we have left.
    I agree by the way. 
  • Reading are an embodiment of how a progressive manager can work even when  the club is in dire straits, although they've been bolstered by a superb academy. Sounds like Selles may now be off to Hull. I just don't understand how we get it so wrong every time. Not only are the results poor under Jones, the football on the pitch is so outrageously dire, you sit there and ponder what the hell you're doing with your life travelling to watch it. I live and breathe this club like many. I never thought I'd be in a position like I am tomorrow where I'm out so can't catch the game and genuinely am not at all fussed. I can't see myself getting a season ticket next year for the first time since I was able to go to games, and that's saying something because the last decade hasn't particularly been pretty.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    The SMT appointed Jones, there was no supporters choice that made the decision.

    As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
    The fans wanted Jones - SMT also wanted him, that is correct, but from what has happened since the appointment is on Jones, he has been given everything he wanted. Yes, he might have missed out on some targets, but that will always happen... Apart from Dixon signing, every single signing has been 100% his choice. I was told when we appointed Jones, he is our most expensive appointment, if that is salary, clauses, bonus or whatever it is, he is getting paid a fortune at Charlton. 

    There are certain fans, whatever this ownership does, will always be anti them... But from what I have seen, they have made a lot of positive moves around the club, and from the outset, they said they wouldn't just buy their way through the leagues!! Jones has let them down badly so far, and will continue to do so, unless he changes his stubborn ways.. 

    I really want it to work for Jones, but his style of play is woeful. 
    TBF I doubt many of those bonuses will be kicking in.
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  • Tricky skillful cage football? I think not. Charlton's brand of football is more like a game of blow-football* where two bored kids are trying to out puff each other. The ball keeps rolling off the table and has now disappeared behind the settee leading to a big argument, a fit of the sulks, and both players being sent to bed early.

    *Does that even exist more in the post covid age?
  • Decision has to be made now one way or another. If there is a possibility in their minds he could be sacked this season based on results, he must be sacked immediately. There would be nothing worse than once again giving a manager what they want in the transfer window and then bringing in someone else who doesn't want those players. If they are seriously going to stick with Jones, they need to commit to not sacking him this season at all and give him what he needs in January. I'd be very worried about that prospect based on what he did over summer, but we can't half arse it here. 
  • Croydon said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    The SMT appointed Jones, there was no supporters choice that made the decision.

    As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
    The fans wanted Jones - SMT also wanted him, that is correct, but from what has happened since the appointment is on Jones, he has been given everything he wanted. Yes, he might have missed out on some targets, but that will always happen... Apart from Dixon signing, every single signing has been 100% his choice. I was told when we appointed Jones, he is our most expensive appointment, if that is salary, clauses, bonus or whatever it is, he is getting paid a fortune at Charlton. 

    There are certain fans, whatever this ownership does, will always be anti them... But from what I have seen, they have made a lot of positive moves around the club, and from the outset, they said they wouldn't just buy their way through the leagues!! Jones has let them down badly so far, and will continue to do so, unless he changes his stubborn ways.. 

    I really want it to work for Jones, but his style of play is woeful. 
    Like what? A foodtruck in the carpark?

    Lowest league finish in our history. Constant poor football decisions. Empty stadium. They've done sweet FA.


    No. I'm not having that. We've got all the benefits of 888 😟
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    The SMT appointed Jones, there was no supporters choice that made the decision.

    As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
    The fans wanted Jones - SMT also wanted him, that is correct, but from what has happened since the appointment is on Jones, he has been given everything he wanted. Yes, he might have missed out on some targets, but that will always happen... Apart from Dixon signing, every single signing has been 100% his choice. I was told when we appointed Jones, he is our most expensive appointment, if that is salary, clauses, bonus or whatever it is, he is getting paid a fortune at Charlton. 

    There are certain fans, whatever this ownership does, will always be anti them... But from what I have seen, they have made a lot of positive moves around the club, and from the outset, they said they wouldn't just buy their way through the leagues!! Jones has let them down badly so far, and will continue to do so, unless he changes his stubborn ways.. 

    I really want it to work for Jones, but his style of play is woeful. 
    Many thanks for responding.

    Glad you see Jones was wanted by both supporters and the SMT. Sometimes the most logical appointments just done work. Pardew was exactly the same back in 2007.

    However no supporters would have wanted either Holden or Appleton. That is totally on the SMT.

    No idea who these fans who are anti the SMT, but IMO they are irrelevant as they must be small in number and doing nothing to disrupt the club so no idea what relevance this is.

    Could you also point out the positive moves the SMT have made?
  • Melrose said:
    Jones....lost the dressing room. Knows it, and is now trying to engineer being sacked. If this is not the case, then he's madder than any of us realised!

    You may be right, he may have lost the dressing room or it may be a wider issue............. or maybe I'm reading too much into something Matty Godden said (from his interview I listened to on Charlton Live)......... I'm paraphrasing..... he said something to the effect that in his experience the feel good factor of everyone at the club pulling together is what it takes to get good, consistent performances on the pitch and I felt he was 'saying' that doesn't exist at Charlton right now. If that's so then it might be a rift between some of the players and the manager/coaching style or it may be the club is more fractured than that.
    Whichever way, my reading of what you think and what I think he meant is worrying.

    But hope springs eternal in the dumb and I'm hoping for better things at Lincoln tomorrow.
  • Plus I can't imagine players like TC, Small etc are very happy when they see what obvious influence they could have on games if picked and a sensible formation used and a much better game plan.

    I think unless something disastrous happens and we lose the next two or three that he'll get the rest of the season but if that happens and we finish mid table and performances don't improve and he's still he for next season then season ticket sales will plummet.
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