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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • Starting to realise Jones is very similar to Dowie, all bluster, alpha-dynamics, he needs to have the players submit and buy completely in with him and his methodology. I’m your leader, I lead, you follow. And have a tailwind of good fortune go your way with some decent players at his disposal.

    When it works, it gets momentum, the group stay tight and outperforms. But when it doesn’t work, it’s spectacularly awful.

    Dowie could only make it work once at Palace but then had a succession of failures. 

    Jones is looking the same. 
    Good analysis
  • I never posted last night as I was so angry at yet another completely rubbish performance. 
    Jones has most of his first choice player's fit now so he can't use injuries as an excuse for a performance like that.
    He needs to go and he needs to go quickly. 
    The trouble is that I believe our senior management team are as inept as he is and I don't trust them one iota to bring in a suitable replacement. 
    Jones is the third manager to work under these clowns and he's the third to fail in his job.
    Our American owners must at some point come to the conclusion that Charlie and his chums are not up to the job of getting us promoted. 
    As costly as it might be to our American Billionaires they simply have to have a complete clear out and bring in proper football people who are up to the task .

    Surely the penny must  have dropped with the money men about the current management team.

    18 months of bullshit and lip service and we're 4 points off the relegation spot and selling Wrexham scarves with one of the worst squads I've seen in over 35 years of watching us.

    Culture of failure comes from the top down.


  • When I saw the team sheet, Leaburn & Ahadme up top, no TC, no Dixon, I decided not to stay up all night, save a tenner, and go to sleep instead.

    That's a lovely massage and a decent meal for me, so I made the right choice.

    Nothing is going to change until Jones recognises, acknowledges, and then goes about trying to rectify our deficiencies.
    Unless and until he can swallow his pride and the words "lack of creativity" leave his lips, then this is going only one way.
  • I never posted last night as I was so angry at yet another completely rubbish performance. 
    Jones has most of his first choice player's fit now so he can't use injuries as an excuse for a performance like that.
    He needs to go and he needs to go quickly. 
    The trouble is that I believe our senior management team are as inept as he is and I don't trust them one iota to bring in a suitable replacement. 
    Jones is the third manager to work under these clowns and he's the third to fail in his job.
    Our American owners must at some point come to the conclusion that Charlie and his chums are not up to the job of getting us promoted. 
    As costly as it might be to our American Billionaires they simply have to have a complete clear out and bring in proper football people who are up to the task .

    Surely the penny must  have dropped with the money men about the current management team.

    18 months of bullshit and lip service and we're 4 points off the relegation spot and selling Wrexham scarves with one of the worst squads I've seen in over 35 years of watching us.

    Culture of failure comes from the top down.


    As I've said previously, I'm really not sure if that's how it works with this lot and I really don't think their plan is to pump shed loads of money into this.
    I should think Methvens sales pitch was something along the lines of "Small investment. Big reward."
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  • edited December 4
    Jones - League Only

    Played: 33
    W: 10
    Draws:  14
    L: 9
    Pts: 44

    Win Rate %: 30.3
  • What formation was we meant to be playing last night?

  • cafc999 said:
    What formation was we meant to be playing last night?

    Nobody knows. Only tactics were hoof the ball up the pitch and rely on long throw ins.
  • Last couple of post-match interviews he's explicitly mentioned how many attacking players he's put on the pitch. Sounds like that might be addressed to the Americans - know someone on here mentioned that a conversation had happened recently.
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    The SMT appointed Jones, there was no supporters choice that made the decision.

    As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
    Not sure it's entirely fair to criticise the SMT for appointing Jones because as far as i recall most fans were very happy at the time that we'd managed to get him.
    Was not blaming the SMT, pointing out that they made the appointment, some will be keen to deflect any blame from them (not you) 
  • I actually do think he might be trying to get the sack, it's the only way his recent selections and post match comments make any sense. He's either trying to get sacked and thus a payout or is truly a nutter 
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  • What is essential is that Scott and Methven are sent packing too. We cannot allow them to appoint the next manager. They are a laughing stock in the game and any decent manager will not touch us while they are here. We need to organise protests with the sole reason of communicating to the owners that ultimately, they are the barrier to this club improving. When Jones does go we will have another desperate manager (like Appleton) or madman (like Jones).
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    The SMT appointed Jones, there was no supporters choice that made the decision.

    As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
    No but @DubaiCAFC is correct the vast majority were overwhelmingly supportive of Jones as manager, he was also backed.

    The blame first and foremost lays with the manager.
  • edited December 4
    cafc999 said:
    What formation was we meant to be playing last night?

    The tried and tested junior school playground formation where somebody kicks the ball anywhere, preferably where nobody on their own team is likely to be and everyone runs after it. Sadly the boys in the other team didn’t join in.
  • Yes I am Jones N and I am packing my bags and calling a taxi in expectation of the sack any minute now (Only the thin lifeline of the win at Walsall can surely save me now)
  • NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Uboat said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up. 
    Piss poor! Fuming 
    Never the owners fault. We get it. 
    To be honest, how can you blame them for the style and the piss poor football.. Jones was the fans choice, he is the highest paid manager in Charlton’s history. He got backed in the summer, he got what he wanted..

    it was better under Appleton. 

    We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
    They’ve picked 3 managers that have failed, and the recruitment has been terrible throughout their involvement. 

    Andy Scott is in charge of the footballing side, the footballing side has been an utter failure due to the decisions he’s made. There finally(!) needs to be some accountability for this and if another manager has to be sacked then he has to go too 
    Precisely. One bad appointment is arguably just bad luck, twice is poor judgment, three consecutively is incompetence.
  • Last year Jones used Tyreece Campbell a lot.  Appleton clearly didn't rate TC and his confidence was shot.
    This season Jones has turned a player with skill, pace and the ability to finish into a player I barely recognise. At the start of the season he played him up front. Not because he was trying to turn him in to an effective striker but because he would run around for 70 minutes as the first line of defence. He'd then substitute him when the opposition players got tired. TC has no goals and no assists this season in the league which is astounding for a player of his ability. The responsibility for that lies at Jones' door.
  • edited December 4
    cafc999 said:
    What formation was we meant to be playing last night?

    4 diamond 2
    Slightly more attacking than 4 box 2 but still boring and ineffective 

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