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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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Dazzler21 said:
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? .
I do believe he's a church goer so very possible.20 -
He got everything right today, that's the bottom line.4
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It's pretty rare. Last time it happened was 21/22, when Rotherham finished 2nd and lost 3 in a row and 4 in 5. Ahead of them Wigan didn't lose 3 in a row but they were winless in 5 and lost 2 in that time. Sunderland won the Playoffs and lost 3 in a row twice. One of those sequences they didn't win in 6 and lost 4 in that time. Also, two of those teams' 3 game loss runs involved them losing to us, which implies it's pretty humiliating and crushes their morale, which is understandable. In 22/23 Wendies finished 3rd and won the Playoffs. They only lost two in a row but they were winless in 6 which I'm sure we all enjoyed. 3 in a row is not good and we can't afford to have another run where we only win 1 in 6 but it''s not necessarily fatal as long as we sustain this improvement.paulsturgess said:Not many teams can afford 3 game losing runs and still get promoted… anything less is failure when you’re in league one… you’d have to be deluded not to shit the bed after that trio of performances - unfortunately Jones had been consistently failing to address the issues which were clear to most for majority of the season - poor management
to his credit, he made substantial changes today which I didn’t think he would and managed today IMPECCABLY - good management 👏
we shall see if we can keep delivering against other sides and take this forward
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Personally didn’t see much wrong with Jones’s interview. There is a difference between criticism and personal abuse and it sounds like he got some of the latter at Bristol on Tuesday. I like that he admitted he got it wrong and he’ll learn from that. Today he got it spot on. We’ve finally got a decent manager and we need to back him and trust the process. There will be bumps along the way but I’m sure we will get there. He’s had one window to try and sort the squad out. It will take at least another to further improve. If we can be in contention in January and strengthen further then I’m confident of a top six finish, then who knows. Continue improving, a bit of luck along the way too and top two isn’t a million miles away. Keep the faith people.7
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Orpingtony said:He got everything right today, that's the bottom line.As he has done on so many other occasions since he arrived.Hopefully this will result will lead on to a nice run, and to show how hysterical today's modern football fan are.5
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Appreciate your take. Nice oneRodneyCharltonTrotta said:shirty5 said:Jones’s rant at in todays press conference is not of a man who’s well with the world
A well earned win against a top of the table team today and he then goes off on one about Tuesday night and then the abuse he took after that game
1. Enjoy today and look forward
2. In future don’t go over to the hardcore 500 plus that go week in, week out and expect then to kiss your arse. Bad results happen from time to time. Accept it and walk off
Disagree. I think if you get stick you are entitled to give it back. Shows he's got a backbone and a temper. I don't want our manager to be our friend....I want him to have an edge and be able to inspire that edge and competitiveness into our players.
Today was an excellent response in the performance to well deserved criticism and as fans if we give pelters then players and managers are entitled to give it back and they should be allowed to.
He's an emotional, heart on your sleeve type and i prefer that in a drab media trained world of modern football.
Jones was rightly criticised for some inexplicable results and so were the players and if fans have given it it's only right he can give a bit back after a barnstorming response in which he's feeling vindicated in the moment.
We (royal we fanbase) can't scream blue murder and scream **** at someone from ten feet away and then get upset when a jab is returned via the press after win.
We're all on the same side. We'll get behind him and the team and they deliver results that warrants the support. That's the deal. All the rest is just pantomime.0 -
Fans give it out so they should be able to take it. We have fans who do abuse the players verbally so I guess the manager is also abused.
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The thing we should remember is that Jones is far from being a wordsmith. Also he can come out with stuff like referring to being told Docherty couldn't play in the position he did well in which seemed to me to be a needless dig at somebody in the club. I find his interviews a bit frustrating to listen to so I have decided not to. Reading the text above and taking into account how Jones expresses himself, I think he was basically saying that those who have been criticising haven't seen the whole picture in terms of knocks or issues in training. He is saying we should just trust him to get it right.
If he said that in a less confrontational way we woudn't be discussing it. On Tuesday night, he told us the performance was totally on him which surely invited criticism as a lot of us could see issues when the team was announced. But we probably should be making allowances for the character he his. Which we were aware of before we got him. We brought him in for what he did at Luton and we probably have to accept the good and bad that comes with it.
Because we did so well yesterday, he probably thinks he is empowered to give some back. Fair enough, if we keep winning and he keeps giving it back, we will gladly take it. But if he picks Watson to start again, I am going to kick off and say it makes no sense to me as it doesn't. In the last few selections there have been eyebrow raising picks and you get away with these if you win or at least play well.
Anyway, it is tptally irrelevant if he is my type of manager or not. If he is successful, he is the right manager for us. But he has to work out how to improve us against he weaker sides who try to stop us rather than beat us. I agree with Callum in that it is a coin toss in a lot of games whether we win them or lose them and that won't get you promoted, but he has to get the attack right and ensure he doesn't mess up the defence whilst doing so.2 -
Can't stand listening to him.Alright mate, you are the welsh football napoleon. Well done, now fulfill your destiny, crack on and conquer large parts of western Europe for us if you don't mind. Tidy.1
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Post of the year contender.oohaahmortimer said:I mean we’ve just produced 3 of the wankiest back to back performances in our history, against genuine nothing clubs and we then produce a proper worldie in comparison which makes the previous 3 even more shocking .
Give us another two worldies on the bounce and I’ll drop to my knees and gobble your Welsh winkle off while announcing you as the second coming of Curbs , I’m a lot harder to get than some of the fellatio crew on here who drop to their knees a lot easier .0 -
Seconded, love this post.oohaahmortimer said:I mean we’ve just produced 3 of the wankiest back to back performances in our history, against genuine nothing clubs and we then produce a proper worldie in comparison which makes the previous 3 even more shocking .
Give us another two worldies on the bounce and I’ll drop to my knees and gobble your Welsh winkle off while announcing you as the second coming of Curbs , I’m a lot harder to get than some of the fellatio crew on here who drop to their knees a lot easier .0 -
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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It actually made me feel a bit ill!Danny Addick said:
Seconded, love this post.oohaahmortimer said:I mean we’ve just produced 3 of the wankiest back to back performances in our history, against genuine nothing clubs and we then produce a proper worldie in comparison which makes the previous 3 even more shocking .
Give us another two worldies on the bounce and I’ll drop to my knees and gobble your Welsh winkle off while announcing you as the second coming of Curbs , I’m a lot harder to get than some of the fellatio crew on here who drop to their knees a lot easier .1 -
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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Let’s hear the latest defence for this chap…
the guy is a deluded clueless fool, with a dire managerial CV which is getting worse by the day, an annoying yappy little dog spouting rubbish on the touch line and then in his post match interviews, he’s signed a load of rubbish and doesn’t have a clue how to even begin to get a tune out of any of them - to quote and pre empt his next quote, yet another match when we failed to do the basics6 -
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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Let's hope Luton pull the trigger tonight with sacking Edwards and take Jones off our hands3
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I know we can't keep sacking managers. But I really wish we would, just once moreLeuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
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When he came to Charlton I said to my mates.
Let's hope we get the NJ who had success at Luton and not the NJ who got sacked at stoke and Southampton.
Right now I'm having doubts.0 -
Given up caring about the manager. Irregardless of credentials, every manager underperforms here. Sack him and we get someone else in who can’t get the team playing2
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Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
Thats a turnaround
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MrBurns said:Let's hope Luton pull the trigger tonight with sacking Edwards and take Jones off our handsWould they want him back?1
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I'm notblackpool72 said:When he came to Charlton I said to my mates.
Let's hope we get the NJ who had success at Luton and not the NJ who got sacked at stoke and Southampton.
Right now I'm having doubts.0 -
Only Manager since we finished 7th that got us to finish a season in a better position (10th) than the one the year before (13th)Bedsaddick said:
He's proving to be no better than the last 5 or six managers. In fact i'd take Holden back in a heartbeat.Leuth said:
What do we reckon folksthenewbie said:
It's absolutely a turnaround just based on the level of performance. Whether we can sustain it or was it just a one off, that really is down to the next few games.eaststandmike said:
Hardly a turnaround is it, one win after three defeats. Let’s take yesterday’s tactics, energy, and teamwork into the next three or four games and win them.Dazzler21 said:I didn't expect the turnaround.
I wonder if Nathan was being interfered with past couple of weeks? Whatever it was that caused that dip in effort and form, let's hope we kick on now... But we've seen all too many false dawns.
Thats a turnaround
Sacking Managers every six or so months is sending us backwards
Lack of patience = Lack of strategy on and off the pitch, because we chop and change so much - But hey!! - I mean the approach of expecting instant results failed with Adkins - Jackson - Garner - Holden - Appleton, so why should we expect any differently with Jones?
Evatt has had three years at this level with Bolton
Bloomfield has been in charge since 2023
Caldwell has been in charge since 2022.
The question got asked against Exeter by @Chunes, wondering how teams like Exeter could pass their way through us... Because the Manager has had bloody time to implement their idea.
Are they stupid though... Because they'd clearly be doing better if they got rid of their Manager as often as we do... Oh wait!!4 -
“Doubts”. There’s no doubt now, it’s very clear. The NJ at Luton was the same person he just got lucky riding a wave he happened to land on, he’s not got a scooby, let’s hear him talk about docherty as a no8 now, and subbing May off every week back in march was very wise wasn’t itblackpool72 said:When he came to Charlton I said to my mates.
Let's hope we get the NJ who had success at Luton and not the NJ who got sacked at stoke and Southampton.
Right now I'm having doubts.
i mean he’s supposed to be about Defensive solidity and organisation which to his credit he brought last season… but now we can’t even defend a set piece they looked like they could score from every single one today !2 -
Was really upbeat about him coming in, but it don't seem to be working at the moment does it.6
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I’m at a complete loss as to know what we should do. I supported NJ’s appointment, but it’s obviously going to shit pretty quickly.My problem is that it’s easy to say ‘Jones out!’ but what then? We are really scraping the barrel when we need a manager, which is why we end up with the likes of Appleton.In the German constitution, if the MPs want to have a vote of no confidence in the chancellor they have to name the replacement ahead of the vote, so they know who they’re getting. On that basis, who are wanting to replace him, who might actually come here? If there isn’t anyone then we should probably keep him and hope he somehow turns it round….1
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Honestly, I wouldn’t sack Jones, I’m not ready to go back to the merry go round.
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