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I’m very late to this thread and have started reading on this page. Please tell me we aren’t selling half and half Charlton - Wrexham scarves.5
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You cannot possibly be defending this.BR7_addick said:So let me get this straight, CAST are expected to be against the club bringing in extra revenue via scarves 😂 some of you have lost the plot here.
Club is a laughing stock (check twitter for evidence) for what might at best bring the club a couple of grand in revenue.6 -
A quick read through this thread has me scratching my head.
We are a club losing £8 million pounds a year. No wonder the owners want to try and recoup some of those losses and if this Wrexham game gives them a chance to do so, good luck to them.
As for the half and half scarves, no I wouldn't buy one but if some of the tourists coming tomorrow are stupid enough to pay £20 (or whatever they are going to be sold for) for one, then taking their money is good enough for me.
I really do doubt the vast majority of fans find this all embarrassing. Maybe the majority of those on here do but by and large they are the ones who eat, drink and breathe Charlton. There are many fans who aren't on here and maybe aren't as passionate in their support and I doubt if they are losing sleep over this, not least because they haven't got a clue what is going on and probably wouldn't care even if they did know.
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Where have I said anything about ruining a legacy?shine166 said:
So weve ruined our legacy by stocking half and half scarfs ?JohnnyH2 said:
And we did that by selling the benefits of the club, not by selling us of the back of other clubs brands.shine166 said:
You could argue, fan base out of touch with club too. Reading half these posts youd think we are a double hard pwopper nawty unit of a team with militant fans.Croydon said:Club sponsor hugely out of touch with fanbase. Shock.
... rather than the family friendly, award winning community club who people aspired to be for a decade or 2.
Unfortunately for some, B mob and the 80s were over a long time ago.
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1. Looking at the ticket site, looks more like circa 1k seats left in home end
2. Surprised away end isn't sold out
3. Scarves - understand the view many have but don't really care personally - its a scarf that might make a few quid from a few tourists, nothing more and less embarrassing that not selling out the away end.
4. Looking forward to the ground being full for once and hoping we can raise our game like we did for Brum and Bolton
5. Hoping TC plays as to drop the only player we have who can go past a player is ridiculous.12 -
Why is it ‘embarrassing’ though?blackpool72 said:
No one is being harmed I agree.valleynick66 said:
Really? I can’t agree.northstandsteve said:Swisdom said:This will be our biggest selling home league attendance in 10 years (where we haven’t just given 5000 tickets away.)
Why shouldn’t the club try to monetise whatever they can from it and ALSO try to pick up a few new fans from the 10000 new faces who will be there.
so there are more emails flying about but there’s also been a big marketing campaign aimed at the younger generation that some of us probably haven’t seen. Whatever they are doing is working.
The way ffp now works means we can’t just get cash injections from a wealthy owner. We have to be self sustaining and can only spend a percentage of our revenue so anything that increases revenue is good in my book. This is football nowadays
You really are badly out of touch with our fanbase, this is a massive faux pasThey are pushing the one game that will make money.That’s the top and bottom really.No one is being harmed by it in by any way.
But the vast majority of fans find the whole thing hugely embarrassing.
It's fucking Wrexham not Barcelona ffs.
Dont all businesses advertise to death when they can to sell something?It’s not a statement on any one fan.1 -
Ryan Reynolds has found his lucrative lane in big films and series and such, and the other one, Rob, has acted and written and produced similar stuff.
Ryan Reynolds has never been in a stage production, he was a child actor initially on Canadian TV. That is not to say Reynolds and the Rob bloke aren’t engaging entertaining and talented.
One feature of film and TV is if it goes wrong you can take it again, but in live Theatre the show must go on.
In my view if you don’t tread the boards as it were are you really an actor?
In my world the proof of true acting talent is a live run on stage where you have to deliver the goods night after night.
In the past I saw Dustin Hoffman (Tootsie, Rain Man, the Graduate and others) as Shylock on the London stage (bested by Geraldine James as Portia in that Peter Hall production in my view) and next year I will see Cate Blanchett (Lord of the Rings, Elizabeth) in the Seagull by Anton Chekhov.
In my opinion the Wrexham media money making guys may well be funny, charming and good blokes but I doubt they can hack it as actors in the sense I understand it until they prove themselves in the Theatre.
If Ryan Reynolds could play, say, Oberon, for six months at the National, or Rob McElhenny play Gayev in the Cherry Orchard for a decent Theatrical run they then might fit my definition of proper actors.
I think they occupy as actors in Drama the same kind of space that (successful) MacDonalds occupies in food.8 -
If we really wanted to make a bit more money the club could have opened Blocks A & B of the AC Stand.1
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so whats ruined then by selling the scarfs ? please enlighten me and il try use the correct wording next timeJohnnyH2 said:
Where have I said anything about ruining a legacy?shine166 said:
So weve ruined our legacy by stocking half and half scarfs ?JohnnyH2 said:
And we did that by selling the benefits of the club, not by selling us of the back of other clubs brands.shine166 said:
You could argue, fan base out of touch with club too. Reading half these posts youd think we are a double hard pwopper nawty unit of a team with militant fans.Croydon said:Club sponsor hugely out of touch with fanbase. Shock.
... rather than the family friendly, award winning community club who people aspired to be for a decade or 2.
Unfortunately for some, B mob and the 80s were over a long time ago.
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I don’t see the issue? It’s clearly aimed at Tourist visiting London or Americans.
I doubt for a second they are expecting die hard Charlton fans to pick them up.Or for one to end up in the Charlton museum after a historic match in SE7 😂😂
(gonna be a 6-6 thriller now I’ve said all that)0 - Sponsored links:
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Why bother unless everything else is sold ?golfaddick said:If we really wanted to make a bit more money the club could have opened Blocks A & B of the AC Stand.1 -
Keep up!golfaddick said:If we really wanted to make a bit more money the club could have opened Blocks A & B of the AC Stand.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/additional-blocks-opened-wrexham-fixture11 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:A quick read through this thread has me scratching my head.
We are a club losing £8 million pounds a year. No wonder the owners want to try and recoup some of those losses and if this Wrexham game gives them a chance to do so, good luck to them.
As for the half and half scarves, no I wouldn't buy one but if some of the tourists coming tomorrow are stupid enough to pay £20 (or whatever they are going to be sold for) for one, then taking their money is good enough for me.
I really do doubt the vast majority of fans find this all embarrassing. Maybe the majority of those on here do but by and large they are the ones who eat, drink and breathe Charlton. There are many fans who aren't on here and maybe aren't as passionate in their support and I doubt if they are losing sleep over this, not least because they haven't got a clue what is going on and probably wouldn't care even if they did know.
The majority moaning wouldnt buy a shirt or go in the club shop at all, probably moan about ppl drinking, or eating, or going for a piss, or kids having fun, or the club nearly going bust, or the wrong owner bidding, or the mural, or the parking, or anything else that means they can moan.6 -
Anyway, Wrexham's starting line up and substitute details have been released early, I assume to assist with the filming of the documentary:
GK - Sylvester Stallone
RWB - Joe Pesci
CB - George Clooney
CB - Robert De Niro
CB - Brad Pitt
LWB - Liam Neeson
MF - Leonardo DiCaprio
MF - Denzel Washington
MF - Tom Cruise
Offense - Johnny Depp
Offense - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Subs: Jim Carrey, Ryan Reynolds, Meryl Streep, Clint Eastwood, Rob McElhenney, Gene Hackman, Al Pacino8 -
Aha, that changes things. The marketing department know their stuff.charltonnick said:Looking at the fixtures tomorrow we are the only game in London except for Brentford. So plenty of overseas tourists will add to the numbers.
We'll sell all those scarfs.1 -
Do pay attention. Tomorrow will be a 90 minute reenactment of Deadpool. We are the baddies and you are expected to wear a red pvc suit and arrive riding a giant chicken.Arsenetatters said:I’m very late to this thread and have started reading on this page. Please tell me we aren’t selling half and half Charlton - Wrexham scarves.
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By the way the scarves are harmless naffology and will be forgotten soon enough.
However the distain from Millwall can be measured against the unforgettable fact that tomorrow we will get an attendance Millwall have never had, and can’t ever have because of their poxy little Meccano ‘stadium’.
One thing that unites West Ham United and Millwall as true brothers is both clubs betrayed their fans by leaving their atmospheric and authentic true grounds for soullessness.6 -
That was Rod Hull.Baldybonce said:
Do pay attention. Tomorrow will be a 90 minute reenactment of Deadpool. We are the baddies and you are expected to wear a red pvc suit and arrive riding a giant chicken.Arsenetatters said:I’m very late to this thread and have started reading on this page. Please tell me we aren’t selling half and half Charlton - Wrexham scarves.
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See they have now opened blocks A & B in the AC stand...this is getting serious now!!🤷♂️0
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Rod Hull - EmuElfsborgAddick said:
That was Rod Hull.Baldybonce said:
Do pay attention. Tomorrow will be a 90 minute reenactment of Deadpool. We are the baddies and you are expected to wear a red pvc suit and arrive riding a giant chicken.Arsenetatters said:I’m very late to this thread and have started reading on this page. Please tell me we aren’t selling half and half Charlton - Wrexham scarves.
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Can’t wait for 3pm Saturday when there are 14,000 in the ground and we discover Charlton’s ticket booking system had been hacked by Russian cyber bots for the last fortnight24
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Seems if they decided to install a fan sofa for the game on the side of the pitch there would be people defending it because of the 'occasion'.
The Charlton shop is selling merch with Wrexham on it. Completely embarrassing.19 -
And now Charlton Life is becoming theatrical arts critics.seth plum said:Ryan Reynolds has found his lucrative lane in big films and series and such, and the other one, Rob, has acted and written and produced similar stuff.
Ryan Reynolds has never been in a stage production, he was a child actor initially on Canadian TV. That is not to say Reynolds and the Rob bloke aren’t engaging entertaining and talented.
One feature of film and TV is if it goes wrong you can take it again, but in live Theatre the show must go on.
In my view if you don’t tread the boards as it were are you really an actor?
In my world the proof of true acting talent is a live run on stage where you have to deliver the goods night after night.
In the past I saw Dustin Hoffman (Tootsie, Rain Man, the Graduate and others) as Shylock on the London stage (bested by Geraldine James as Portia in that Peter Hall production in my view) and next year I will see Cate Blanchett (Lord of the Rings, Elizabeth) in the Seagull by Anton Chekhov.
In my opinion the Wrexham media money making guys may well be funny, charming and good blokes but I doubt they can hack it as actors in the sense I understand it until they prove themselves in the Theatre.
If Ryan Reynolds could play, say, Oberon, for six months at the National, or Rob McElhenny play Gavev in the Cherry Orchard for a decent Theatrical run they then might fit my definition of proper actors.
I think they occupy as actors in Drama the same kind of space that (successful) MacDonalds occupies in food.
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The scums record attendance is over 48k for a cup tie in the 1930sseth plum said:By the way the scarves are harmless naffology and will be forgotten soon enough.
However the distain from Millwall can be measured against the unforgettable fact that tomorrow we will get an attendance Millwall have never had, and can’t ever have because of their poxy little Meccano ‘stadium’.
One thing that unites West Ham United and Millwall as true brothers is both clubs betrayed their fans by leaving their atmospheric and authentic true grounds for soullessness.2 -
If you cannot see how embarrassing it is then that's on you.valleynick66 said:
Why is it ‘embarrassing’ though?blackpool72 said:
No one is being harmed I agree.valleynick66 said:
Really? I can’t agree.northstandsteve said:Swisdom said:This will be our biggest selling home league attendance in 10 years (where we haven’t just given 5000 tickets away.)
Why shouldn’t the club try to monetise whatever they can from it and ALSO try to pick up a few new fans from the 10000 new faces who will be there.
so there are more emails flying about but there’s also been a big marketing campaign aimed at the younger generation that some of us probably haven’t seen. Whatever they are doing is working.
The way ffp now works means we can’t just get cash injections from a wealthy owner. We have to be self sustaining and can only spend a percentage of our revenue so anything that increases revenue is good in my book. This is football nowadays
You really are badly out of touch with our fanbase, this is a massive faux pasThey are pushing the one game that will make money.That’s the top and bottom really.No one is being harmed by it in by any way.
But the vast majority of fans find the whole thing hugely embarrassing.
It's fucking Wrexham not Barcelona ffs.
Dont all businesses advertise to death when they can to sell something?It’s not a statement on any one fan.
Just look at the piss taking on social media for starters or read this thread.
Our owners are supposed be Billionaires and I can't believe raising a couple of grand selling scarfs will affect them one bit.
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These scalves are starting to attract some fame. I assume they didn't have too many made so maybe they will be a great investment for 20 years time when we are fighting to win the Champions League. The museum definitely ought to get one as history is history, good or bad. Maybe a few of us need to get some although what do I know. The Wallace and Grommit Christmas Crackers I put in the loft over 20 years ago do not seem to have risen much in value!0
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Yeah. Impressive but then a betrayal. The old Den was their big asset.oohaahmortimer said:
The scums record attendance is over 48k for a cup tie in the 1930sseth plum said:By the way the scarves are harmless naffology and will be forgotten soon enough.
However the distain from Millwall can be measured against the unforgettable fact that tomorrow we will get an attendance Millwall have never had, and can’t ever have because of their poxy little Meccano ‘stadium’.
One thing that unites West Ham United and Millwall as true brothers is both clubs betrayed their fans by leaving their atmospheric and authentic true grounds for soullessness.1 -
Whilst some of the stuff going on is cringe worthy to the devoted, the real embarrassment tomorrow will be if the turnstiles are not all manned and operating, stewards are not scaled up to match the crowd size and they are not trained in how to manage crowd activity.
There is a good chance that there will be pockets of Wrexham fans and Disney tourist fans in the home areas and how these are handled by stewards, particularly if a goal is scored, will be critical to ensuring a trouble free game.
Ps the locks in the bogs in the North stand better be fixed!3 -
See Birmingham CitySwisdom said:This will be our biggest selling home league attendance in 10 years (where we haven’t just given 5000 tickets away.)
Why shouldn’t the club try to monetise whatever they can from it and ALSO try to pick up a few new fans from the 10000 new faces who will be there.
so there are more emails flying about but there’s also been a big marketing campaign aimed at the younger generation that some of us probably haven’t seen. Whatever they are doing is working.
The way ffp now works means we can’t just get cash injections from a wealthy owner. We have to be self sustaining and can only spend a percentage of our revenue so anything that increases revenue is good in my book. This is football nowadays
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This is something that needs to be made more clear tbh. Charlie Methven said this isn't the case at Bromley Addicks, if someone wants to correct me if I'm wrong?fenaddick said:
This just isn't true in L1, SCMP rules allow it.Swisdom said:This will be our biggest selling home league attendance in 10 years (where we haven’t just given 5000 tickets away.)
Why shouldn’t the club try to monetise whatever they can from it and ALSO try to pick up a few new fans from the 10000 new faces who will be there.
so there are more emails flying about but there’s also been a big marketing campaign aimed at the younger generation that some of us probably haven’t seen. Whatever they are doing is working.
The way ffp now works means we can’t just get cash injections from a wealthy owner. We have to be self sustaining and can only spend a percentage of our revenue so anything that increases revenue is good in my book. This is football nowadays
There's a big difference between a marketing push to sell tickets (good in my eyes) and printing and attempting to profit off another teams badge (bad).
From what I remember him saying, we can't just go and do these so called cash injections, and he heavily implied our hands were tied in how much money we could spend, and that stricter regulations are coming so it's in our interest to do things smartly (cheaply).
Yet I've read many people say that's not the case and we can sign whoever.
As for the argument about people saying that it's an opportunity to make money, I don't understand the logic. If you were truly a billionaire, and loved the club (allegedly) a few thousand is a drop in the ocean. Why risk your clubs image for a small fraction of your net worth. Screams of another set of owners not understanding the fans.
It all falls back to what I thought originally, and have always thought. I don't believe these lot actually have much money.
If they did, they'd be doing this type of advertising for every game to try and boost attendances and doing whatever they could. This is a pure cash grab weekend, has been from since the fixtures came out.1
