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  • shirty5 said:
    Just Say No 
    Thats a lot easier to say than to do. I read somewhere, a drug taker can tell you the first time he took drugs but cant tell you the last time. I was never addicted to anything, (other than being an Addick). I can actually say the last time I did anything other than alcohol, which I will be doing later today as its Friday. About 35 years ago  being the last, Amsterdam on a stag night. I bought half a dozen space cakes for my friends who actually did say no, (they were on other stuff, not abstaining). I had choice, bin them or eat them. I choose the latter, scoffed the lot in short order and buzzed about for hours. Fast forward 20 odd years drinking in  a bar one of my friends tells the stories to a few others. Unfortunately my teenage son was there to hear about his dads, (ME), not so perfect past. This in turn was used against me by son in a little talk in front of my wife who also had no idea of some of the sillier things I wanted to keep from them.
    Very difficult for me to take the high ground, (no pun intended) with those two nowadays, although I am now very anti drugs for a variety of good reasons. 

    Cootes may have a valid point about Klopp but no one will ever ask Coote his opinion now.


  • The problem with coke is it's so popular that it's practically socially acceptable in a lot of circles, particularly areas where Charlton draws it's support from. It's also addictive.

    In my experience the majority of users will probably do a gram or a half on a night out every now and again, splitting a packet with mates and never get hooked. There are also a lot of people there with addictions without realising it. There's also the junk people cut it up with that's worse than the coke itself. It's more of a danger than a lot of people realise. From the video you can't tell if he has an addiction IMO. 

    I can see the FA making an example out of him. I doubt he'll want to ref again anyway tbh. 
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  • Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?
  • clb74 said:
    Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?
    Brain surgeon
  • clb74 said:
    Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    Is there any job you should be doing under the influence of drugs?
    Quality Control?
  • I would suggest that if this is true it's more than an occasional thing and more of an issue as it's affecting his job. If that is the case, he needs help but I doubt he will receive it

    https://www.football365.com/news/david-coote-travelodge-drugs-party-half-time-spurs-man-city
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  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.
  • fenaddick said:
    I would suggest that if this is true it's more than an occasional thing and more of an issue as it's affecting his job. If that is the case, he needs help but I doubt he will receive it

    https://www.football365.com/news/david-coote-travelodge-drugs-party-half-time-spurs-man-city
    I like the bit in that story about the timing of his Travelodge hotel reservation and, in particular, the booking confirmation he sent.  That's taking his role as a fourth official a bit seriously. 
  • edited November 15
    Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    I would imagine it's because it's a thread about a ref who clearly gets on it from time to time and will likely lose his job. Posting a lengthy message telling people the effects of cocaine as well as things like "using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk" and that "using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk" is probably pretty obvious to anyone over the age of 12.

    Everyone on here is an adult and can make their own choices. There's risks with anything in life, whether that's taking drugs, drinking alcohol, gambling, eating fried food or crossing a busy road. 
    Using an illegal class A drug is somewhat different from all those others that you mention. 

    The figures for accidents caused by drivers under the influence of illegal drugs and alcohol would suggest that it is a big problem, which is why the normalising the taking of drugs isn't acceptable. 
  • edited November 15
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating.

    It's an illegal drug the others aren't.
  • MrOneLung said:
    I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.

    Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?
    This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.

    The Issue

    Dangers of Speeding

    TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONS

    For more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.

    Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.

    Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.

    The Issue

    Consequences

    Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:

    • Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
    • Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
    • Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
    • Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
    • Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
    • Increased fuel consumption/cost.
    The Issue

    What Drives Speeding?

    Related Topics

    Speeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:

    Traffic

    Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.

    Running Late

    Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.

    Anonymity

    A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.

    Disregard for Others and For the Law

    Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.

    If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.

    The Issue

    Dealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers

    Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:

    • If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
    • Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
    • Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
    • Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
    NHTSA In Action

    NHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads

    NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:

    • Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
    • Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
    • Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
    • Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
    • Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
    • Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.

    To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.

    NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.

    Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.

    Classic 'whataboutery'.
  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating.

    It's an illegal drug the others aren't.
    Thank god you’re here.
  • edited November 15
    Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    Probably because as usual it’s only for attention. The content isn’t funny, the impulse is. Why post it for everyone on a thread where we’re discussing a ref who’s done drugs? If you’re that bothered why not find a contact email for Coote and tell him yourself?
  • JaShea99 said:
    Not sure why a post pointing out the harms of taking a Class A drug attracts lols, as it's a serious matter.

    David Coote is in a job where you need to have full control of your decision making, taking mind altering drugs is a stupid and reckless thing to do.
    Probably because as usual it’s only for attention. The content isn’t funny, the impulse is. Why post it for everyone on a thread where we’re discussing a ref who’s done drugs? If you’re that bothered why not find a contact email for Coote and tell him yourself?
    It is a thread about a referee who has taken illegal drugs and many on here seem to condone the taking of illegal drugs and dismiss the taking of them as recreational and having no consequences, I take a different view. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.

    Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?
    This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.

    The Issue

    Dangers of Speeding

    TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONS

    For more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.

    Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.

    Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.

    The Issue

    Consequences

    Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:

    • Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
    • Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
    • Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
    • Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
    • Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
    • Increased fuel consumption/cost.
    The Issue

    What Drives Speeding?

    Related Topics

    Speeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:

    Traffic

    Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.

    Running Late

    Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.

    Anonymity

    A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.

    Disregard for Others and For the Law

    Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.

    If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.

    The Issue

    Dealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers

    Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:

    • If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
    • Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
    • Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
    • Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
    NHTSA In Action

    NHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads

    NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:

    • Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
    • Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
    • Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
    • Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
    • Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
    • Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.

    To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.

    NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.

    Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.

    I'm not accepting ANY advice on speeding from a country where 21 states still allow the use of hand-held cell phones while driving! (Not to mention it being legal (in most states) to keep a loaded hand gun in your glove compartment). 
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