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  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
  • edited November 15
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
  • MrOneLung said:
    I heard he once went 75 on the motorway.

    Anyone have documentation on the dangers to other road users please?
    This is what the US department of Transportation says about it.

    The Issue

    Dangers of Speeding

    TRAFFIC SAFETY FACTS & DATA PUBLICATIONS

    For more than two decades, speeding has been involved in approximately one-third of all motor vehicle fatalities. In 2022, speeding was a contributing factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities.

    Speed also affects your safety even when you are driving at the speed limit but too fast for road conditions, such as during bad weather, when a road is under repair, or in an area at night that isn’t well lit.

    Speeding endangers not only the life of the speeder, but all of the people on the road around them, including law enforcement officers. It is a problem we all need to help solve.

    The Issue

    Consequences

    Speeding is more than just breaking the law. The consequences are far-ranging:

    • Greater potential for loss of vehicle control;
    • Reduced effectiveness of occupant protection equipment;
    • Increased stopping distance after the driver perceives a danger;
    • Increased degree of crash severity leading to more severe injuries;
    • Economic implications of a speed-related crash; and
    • Increased fuel consumption/cost.
    The Issue

    What Drives Speeding?

    Related Topics

    Speeding is a type of aggressive driving behavior. Several factors have contributed to an overall rise in aggressive driving:

    Traffic

    Traffic congestion is one of the most frequently mentioned contributing factors to aggressive driving, such as speeding. Drivers may respond by using aggressive driving behaviors, including speeding, changing lanes frequently, or becoming angry at anyone who they believe impedes their progress.

    Running Late

    Some people drive aggressively because they have too much to do and are “running late” for work, school, their next meeting, lesson, soccer game, or other appointment.

    Anonymity

    A motor vehicle insulates the driver from the world. Shielded from the outside environment, a driver can develop a sense of detachment, as if an observer of their surroundings, rather than a participant. This can lead to some people feeling less constrained in their behavior when they cannot be seen by others and/or when it is unlikely that they will ever again see those who witness their behavior.

    Disregard for Others and For the Law

    Most motorists rarely drive aggressively, and some never do. For others, episodes of aggressive driving are frequent, and for a small proportion of motorists it is their usual driving behavior. Occasional episodes of aggressive driving–such as speeding and changing lanes abruptly–might occur in response to specific situations, like when the driver is late for an important appointment, but is not the driver’s normal behavior.

    If it seems that there are more cases of rude and outrageous behavior on the road now than in the past, the observation is correct—if for no other reason than there are more drivers driving more miles on the same roads than ever before.

    The Issue

    Dealing with Speeding and Aggressive Drivers

    Speeding behavior and aggressive drivers may not only affect the speeder—it can also affect other drivers, pedestrians, and bicyclists. Here are some tips for encountering speeders on the road:

    • If you are in the left lane and someone wants to pass, move over and let them by.
    • Give speeding drivers plenty of space. Speeding drivers may lose control of their vehicle more easily.
    • Adjust your driving accordingly. Speeding is tied to aggressive driving. If a speeding driver is tailgating you or trying to engage you in risky driving, use judgment to safely steer your vehicle out of the way.
    • Call the police if you believe a driver is following you or harassing you.
    NHTSA In Action

    NHTSA is dedicated to eliminating risky behaviors on our nation’s roads

    NHTSA works with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration to provide the roadmap, tools, guidance, and resources for state and local governments to use in designing and applying a balanced and effective speed management program. Speed management involves the following:

    • Defining the relationship between speed, speeding, and safety.
    • Applying road design and engineering measures to obtain appropriate speeds.
    • Setting speed limits that are safe and reasonable.
    • Applying enforcement efforts and appropriate technology that effectively target crash-producing speeders and deter speeding.
    • Effectively marketing communication and educational messages that focus on high-risk drivers.
    • Soliciting the cooperation, support, and leadership of traffic safety stakeholders.

    To promote this strategy, NHTSA delivers a Speed Management Program course to state and local jurisdictions. The course uses a multidisciplinary approach to address speeding problems in states and local communities.

    NHTSA also provides training to law enforcement officers on the use of speed-measuring devices (i.e., radar and lidar) in order to identify and take enforcement action against speeding drivers.

    Finally, NHTSA works with national law enforcement partners, including the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs’ Association, the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, and the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement to heighten awareness of the speeding problem in the United States and deliver effective enforcement countermeasures to combat it.

    Classic 'whataboutery'.
    This is what the Cambridge Dictionary says about it.

    whataboutery
    noun [ U ]
       disapproving
    uk/ˌwɒt.əˈbaʊ.tər.i/ us/ˌwɑː.t̬əˈbaʊ.t̬ɚ.i/
    the practice of answering a criticism or difficult question by making a similar criticism or asking a different but related questiontypically starting with the words "What about?":
    He's the kind of person who responds to an attempt to protect women from domestic violence with whataboutery: "What about male victims of domestic violence?"
    Whataboutery destroys effective communication and rational discussion, and is just an emotional response to a comment.
     Fewer examples
     SMART Vocabulary: related words and phrases
    (Definition of whataboutery from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)
  • edited November 15
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Perhaps they should, the world would be a better place.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/11/how-big-is-europes-cocaine-problem-and-what-is-the-human-cost
  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Sums them up if you ignore those things (and you have kids particularly).

    You haven't acquired the drugs without some subterfuge/ discrete activity so cant claim innocence.
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  • MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Perhaps they should, the world would be a better place.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/11/how-big-is-europes-cocaine-problem-and-what-is-the-human-cost
    The world would be a better place if alcohol , gambling and smoking were banned aswell.
  • clb74 said:
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Perhaps they should, the world would be a better place.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/11/how-big-is-europes-cocaine-problem-and-what-is-the-human-cost
    The world would be a better place if alcohol , gambling and smoking were banned aswell.

  • se9addick said:
    MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
    I'm going to guess that a significant number of the members of this forum have taken a class A drug. 

    Let's put it to the test.

    If you have ever taken an illegal class A drug, like this post.
    If you have never taken an illegal class A drug, give it a LOL.
    You’ll do anything to increase your like & lol count!
    rumbled...
  • edited November 15

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  • clb74 said:
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Perhaps they should, the world would be a better place.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/11/how-big-is-europes-cocaine-problem-and-what-is-the-human-cost
    The world would be a better place if alcohol , gambling and smoking were banned aswell.

    And I like a drink and a bet every day 
  • I've led a sheltered life. Never taken drugs, never even been offered drugs.


  • MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
    But why do you have to preach to everyone - do you not think, that every single person on here knows the effects that cocaine and its usage can have ?
  • MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
    I'm going to guess that a significant number of the members of this forum have taken a class A drug. 

    Let's put it to the test.

    If you have ever taken an illegal class A drug, like this post.
    If you have never taken an illegal class A drug, give it a LOL.
    All those who have seen us in a live game this season give it like.

    Those who have watched only a stream or not seen us at all give it a LOL
  • edited November 15
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    You could make this argument for plenty of legal products and services too! If everyone worried about where their products and services came from and whether there were elements of crime along the way from formation to consumer then people would have to boycott a hell of a lot.
  • MrOneLung said:
    MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
    But why do you have to preach to everyone - do you not think, that every single person on here knows the effects that cocaine and its usage can have ?
    I doubt they do, a read of the link I posted about the toll and misery that the cocaine trade creates is appalling. 
  • It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    It’s not inconvenient, it’s just most people don’t really give a shit.
    Nice attitude for them to have in life if those things are unimportant  :/
    So you think Dave and his mates down the pub who have a blast once in a blue moon when they get away from the their missus and the kids, give a shit about how their gear got from plant to packet?
    Sums them up if you ignore those things (and you have kids particularly).

    You haven't acquired the drugs without some subterfuge/ discrete activity so cant claim innocence.
    I assume you don't eat avocado.
  • MrOneLung said:
    MrOneLung said:
    yeah but what could have been said was, 'he partook in an illegal activity, got caught and quite rightly is likely to be punished by his employer' rather than going down the route of preaching to everybody the effects the use of this particular drug may have.
    Perhaps the truth about an illegal drug that others have sought to minimise is too difficult to comprehend.
    But why do you have to preach to everyone - do you not think, that every single person on here knows the effects that cocaine and its usage can have ?
    I doubt they do, a read of the link I posted about the toll and misery that the cocaine trade creates is appalling. 

    Alright, fine, I’ll give you 3 for a 100ner but it’s the best I can do.


  • JaShea99 said:
    It may be boring to be reminded of the effects of using cocaine, but this is what the NHS Scotland says about it.

    Cocaine

    Cocaine (hydrochloride) is a highly addictive drug. It acts as a short lived central nervous system stimulant and local anaesthetic.

    It’s extracted from the leaves of coca plants and is usually snorted.

    Crack cocaine is the smokable form of the drug and comes as crystals known as rocks or stones. Crack and cocaine powder can be injected but doing this is linked to many harmful effects.

    Effects of cocaine

    Common effects of cocaine include:

    • anxiety
    • confidence
    • dilated pupils
    • energy
    • euphoria
    • increased heart rate
    • paranoia
    • restlessness

    Long term effects of using cocaine

    Longer term effects of using cocaine can include:

    • dependency
    • damage to the heart
    • mood swings
    • poor sleeping patterns
    • impotence
    • malnutrition due to suppressed appetite
    • difficulties manging your mental health which may affect mental health conditions
    • damage to the lips, mouth and lungs caused by smoking cocaine
    • needle-related injuries like infections and, in extreme cases, amputation of limbs

    Soft tissue damage

    When snorted, cocaine causes the blood vessels to contract. This reduces blood flow to the nose. Repeated use can then damage the nasal structure and tissues. This can cause holes or perforations in the septum (the cartilage between the nostrils).

    Common cocaine cutting agents, like levamisole, can also cause soft tissue damage. This includes rashes, wounds and skin damage.

    If left untreated this damage can be irreparable so it’s important to speak to your GP as soon as problems arise.

    Risks of mixing cocaine with other substances

    Using alcohol and cocaine together has a bigger risk. They mix together in the body to produce a toxic chemical called cocaethylene. This affects the cardiovascular system and increases the risk of overdose.

    Using heroin with cocaine has a much greater risk. This can increase the likelihood of an overdose. Each drug puts a lot of pressure on the central nervous system and the heart. This can result in respiratory failure.




    Why is this worthy of  LOL's 🤔
    Are you shit faced at the moment?

    As I said you may be the lucky ones or you may end up laying in your own shit and vomit and clog up the NHS.

    I posted it because this because it seems that many think this is a 'recreational' drug with no consequences, it isn't.

    No that’s not what people think, so jump off your high horse.

    What was implied was that people can use it recreationally. Christ, I know enough people that do.

    It can also be a seriously addictive drug, no doubt about that.

    No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating. Just cos it’s ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean some people don’t know how to control it.

    Why on earth you’ve started rambling on about drug drivers is anyone’s guess, but you do love a preach.

    It is different. 

    It’s illegal for starters and users casually ignore the route by which the product came to them - prostitution , modern day slavery, organised crime, knife and drug crime etc.

    That is an inconvenient truth for users who defend it as recreational and harmless.  
    You could make this argument for plenty of legal products and services too! If everyone worried about where their products and services came from and whether there were elements of crime along the way from formation to consumer then people would have to boycott a hell of a lot.
    But that isn’t the point. 

    I was responding to the comment ‘No different to booze, gambling or excessive eating.’

    I’ve  highlighted a legitimate  undeniable difference. 

    It is frankly silly to try and justify drug use with a comparison to regular commercial activities. Of course there are bad / less desirable aspects of some legal consumerism but to try and compare is to ignore the point and reinforces my original observation that users ignore how the product gets to them when the whole production cycle is illegal. 

    Two  wrongs do not make a right. 
  • No that wasn’t your point, but I made a different one, which is literally exactly how we got here in the first place, given the trajectory of the thread. Where did I try to justify drug use or claim that two wrongs make a right?! I’d love to know.
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