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MATCH THREAD [+POST p19]: Walsall v Charlton Athletic: (FACR2): Saturday 30th Nov 2024: KO 15:00

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  • Got to be the Yellow kit for away matches from now on 🤔
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    fenaddick said:
    Just rewatched our goals, for someone who does nothing Anderson wasn’t half involved for 2/4 of them. Smart pass to REG to stretch play for the first and challenges the keeper forcing the weak punch and then blocks off a defender for the third. I know there are things he can improve on but that often means people look over things he does well
    I've been a critic of Anderson and his continual appearances when he has looked out of his depth, so happy to eat a bit of humble pie today. If he starts creating problems for the opposition with a high press and a couple of killer passes, all to the good. Fingers crossed he kicks on.
    Anderson seems to be used in the Bakinson role of just causing pure chaos and disruption. Sometimes that means breaking up the opposition, sometimes it means coming up with something genuinely impressive and sometimes it means a promising move by us breaks down.

    I'm not really sure I agree with the logic but it seems to be an important part of Jones style so I don't see it changing any time soon.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    To put things in perspective, they rested six players and had two subbed in 1st half including probably their best player.  Good to see our CMs kept Jamal Matt quiet, he is dangerous.
    They made six changes from midweek but not the same as six first team players rested.

    They actually rested Lakin and Jellis against Bromley in midweek and brought both back into their starting line up today. Plus their captain and main centre back made his first start after an injury.

    So probably three players missing from their best XI. One of those three came on as a sub (Matt) and still couldn’t score.
    Just quoting this because so many people clearly didn’t read it first time round. 
    Thanks for actually doing a bit of research Callum. 👏🏼
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    Comfortable win. Walsall started well but didn’t really threaten much after we went 1-0
    up. Jones doesn’t need to tinker with that team for now.

    It was my son’s first ever Charlton game. He loved it. A trip to The Valley next. 
    He’s clearly a good luck charm 
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,448
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
  • DA7
    DA7 Posts: 126
    May have missed it, but are there any TV highlights anywhere?
  • DA7 said:
    May have missed it, but are there any TV highlights anywhere?
    I don’t think they’re available until later today/this evening, it not having been a CharltonTV broadcast.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    DA7 said:
    May have missed it, but are there any TV highlights anywhere?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/c9wr9zw7npqo
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  • DA7
    DA7 Posts: 126
    Found it. BBC Website.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Did anybody notice who got the captain’s armband after Godden went off?
    Does anybody know if the Charlton Athletic audio got sorted in the end?
  • seth plum said:
    Did anybody notice who got the captain’s armband after Godden went off?
    Does anybody know if the Charlton Athletic audio got sorted in the end?
    I checked at about 60+ mins and it was back so I stayed with it rather than the partisan BBC audio....
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,490
    LouisMend said:
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
    So didn't really answer that at all. Seems a no brainier but can never be sure with Jones. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Josh Edwards was our best player first 60 mins.  Small gave us width and pace.  TC roasted them out wide when he doubled up with Small.

    Taylor HAS to play.

    Gas will hopefully find some confidence with his goals but I just don't think he'll be part of a promotion winning side for us.

    Pitch was wet.  The ball flew about a lot.  We were better than versus Burton.  Let's see what Tuesday brings.  My son still hasn't seen us lose this season. He was ill against Blackpool.   He's coming Tuesday.

    I don't think we have enough guile or quality currently.   Would like to see

    AMB

    Ramsey
    Mitchell
    Jones
    Edwards

    Taylor
    Coventry
    Small

    Leaburn
    Godden
    TC

    or

    AMB

    Mitchell 
    Jones
    Edwards

    Ramsey
    Taylor
    Coventry
    Berry
    TC

    Leaburn
    Godden


    Injuries prevent it but therefore TC needs to play and out wide one side to inject pace and threat with Taylor in the side adding workrate and quality from dead ball situations.


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    3 away games this season, 3 wins and 3 clean sheets. Thought Taylor and Coventry were the difference in quality today and berry with some nice touches. Worrying moments were in the first half free header from set piece and the opening 20 in the second. I’ve never felt more confidant in a player scoring a 1vs1 than today and even someone like may I still think he wouldn’t score. I think I’m still scared from that Varney miss… hopefully a good draw! 
    Can you travel every week?
    Can you travel every week?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    seth plum said:
    Did anybody notice who got the captain’s armband after Godden went off?
    Does anybody know if the Charlton Athletic audio got sorted in the end?
    I checked at about 60+ mins and it was back so I stayed with it rather than the partisan BBC audio....

    The so called partisan commentary of BBC West Midlands praised Charlton more than many CL posters have done for years !

    Of course the local commentator wanted to highlight Walsall and when they were attacking for most of the 45th to 60th minute then just like Terry and Greg do with CAFC, they speak about the positives.

    The injured Walsall player said how the home team normally do well against higher ranked teams but CAFC were very good and clinical.

    As I said in the match thread at least the BBC Comms guy  didn't laugh when a CAFC shot goes into row Z like the Sky commentator did against Burton !
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Another goal from a set piece. Have to give the staff/players credit, thought we'd be rubbish at those forever. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Only watched the highlights and listened so have questions for the 'analysts' who watched the whole game.

    Q.Was it a box midfield or a diamond ?
    Q. As Terry Taylor had two good shots at goal what was his position in midfield ? 
    Q. The same Q. for Coventry who is becoming a bigger influence with the more games he plays. Also did the combo with Taylor work well ? Who was the most advanced or did they rotate ?
    Q. Excellent headers by Gassan Ahadme for both goals but did he or Godden get any crosses from more advanced positions as this is a major weakness in our play as most teams try to utilise the space out wide in advanced positions as it's so much easier to attack the ball moving on to it than looking over your shoulder when the crosses come in.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Chunes said:
    Another goal from a set piece. Have to give the staff/players credit, thought we'd be rubbish at those forever. 
    The set piece and all!
    Danny Hylton comes on for a nanosecond, wins a rather dubious free kick. Taylor to Small, Small to Campbell, goal.
    Hylton having been booked when not on the pitch earlier in the game.
    In his micro time so far at Charlton Hylton has had more memorable moments than a season of some other players.
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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    seth plum said:
    Did anybody notice who got the captain’s armband after Godden went off?
    Does anybody know if the Charlton Athletic audio got sorted in the end?
    Godden handed over to Conor ☘️
  • thenewbie said:
    Crusty54 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bizarre squad selection again. Why's Hylton involved over Dixon and 2 left backs on the bench.... 
    Dxon scored 4 goals against a weak non league side. League 2 defenders would be more likely to kick him to pieces.
    I know an intelligent Charlton fan who went to the game and he said that Dixon is not ready for the first team.
    Next you'll be trying to convince us that Santa Claus is for real
    Santa Claus is real, he posts on here sometimes 
    And I saw him in The Glades last week.
  • Talal said:
    LouisMend said:
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
    So didn't really answer that at all. Seems a no brainier but can never be sure with Jones. 
    I’m sure some will say it’s confidential or a trade secret of some kind and hence we aren’t allowed an answer 😉😆
  • thenewbie said:
    Crusty54 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bizarre squad selection again. Why's Hylton involved over Dixon and 2 left backs on the bench.... 
    Dxon scored 4 goals against a weak non league side. League 2 defenders would be more likely to kick him to pieces.
    I know an intelligent Charlton fan who went to the game and he said that Dixon is not ready for the first team.
    Next you'll be trying to convince us that Santa Claus is for real
    Santa Claus is real, he posts on here sometimes 
    And I saw him in The Glades last week.
    Certainly puts it about does old Santa...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    Talal said:
    LouisMend said:
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
    So didn't really answer that at all. Seems a no brainier but can never be sure with Jones. 
    I’m sure some will say it’s confidential or a trade secret of some kind and hence we aren’t allowed an answer 😉😆
    It's neither confidential or a trade secret but it would be very undiplomatic to say "Yes, player X and player Y are going to play every week as they are better than the other players in my squad".

    Sometimes, just sometimes, there are reasons why managers shouldn't give out info regardless how much fans might like to hear it.

    I was actually surprised N Jones said as much as he did about the possible return of L Jones.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    LouisMend said:
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
    The usual non committal garbled stuff.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,259
    edited December 2024
    thenewbie said:
    Crusty54 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bizarre squad selection again. Why's Hylton involved over Dixon and 2 left backs on the bench.... 
    Dxon scored 4 goals against a weak non league side. League 2 defenders would be more likely to kick him to pieces.
    I know an intelligent Charlton fan who went to the game and he said that Dixon is not ready for the first team.
    Next you'll be trying to convince us that Santa Claus is for real
    Santa Claus is real, he posts on here sometimes 
    And I saw him in The Glades last week.
    Certainly puts it about does old Santa...
    My parents used to tell me that he comes in my bedroom when I'm asleep & gives me a present  :o 

    Is it too late to have them arrested ?
  • Talal said:
    LouisMend said:
    Taylor and Coventry is clearly the best midfield combination, both worked hard and did their defensive duties, but also had some quality on the ball.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/nathan-jones-asked-if-he-can-see-terry-taylor-and-conor-coventry-starting-more-games-together-after-impressing-at-walsall/
    So didn't really answer that at all. Seems a no brainier but can never be sure with Jones. 
    I’m sure some will say it’s confidential or a trade secret of some kind and hence we aren’t allowed an answer 😉😆
    It's neither confidential or a trade secret but it would be very undiplomatic to say "Yes, player X and player Y are going to play every week as they are better than the other players in my squad".

    Sometimes, just sometimes, there are reasons why managers shouldn't give out info regardless how much fans might like to hear it.

    I was actually surprised N Jones said as much as he did about the possible return of L Jones.
    The emojis were lost on you I see. 🙂

    I of course agree these days the manager won’t actually say one is better than another and the squad is important etc. BUT the answer will come if a consistent starting eleven emerges. 
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,794
    He’s probably hedging his bets so he can bring his favourite Docherty back in after the ban. Oh I hope not!!
  • fenaddick said:
    DA7 said:
    May have missed it, but are there any TV highlights anywhere?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/c9wr9zw7npqo