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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Head had scored 3 runs and had 11 dots in his first 13 balls. Since then he's hit 88 off 50 balls. He didn't try to hit every ball for four from the off. It's a straight shoot out between him and Starc (10-113) for MOM.  
  • MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Travis Head becoming this world class player is absolutely bizarre to me when he had one of the worst overseas stints I think I've ever seen for Sussex in 2021. Think he got one 50 all season. 
    I remember it but think you have to take that season in isolation. I've seen so many Aussies come over in top club cricket and playing three shots before the ball has arrived. One of them, the overseas at Bickley last season, is making his debut for Queensland today. It's why the likes of Head, Smith, Labuschagne do come over. For that experience. I bet Sussex would have Head back now.  
    Absolutely I'd have this Travis Head back at the top of the order for Sussex every day of the week. That 2021 season with the bizarre county championship format and only winning 1 game all season along with enough off the field stuff to rival a Roland season was a complete mess of a season. 

    It got so bad for Head that season that I recall him playing against Kent 2s!!!


    It was painful to watch Head playing at Hove. He couldn’t get the ball off the square.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,617
    Is it time for BMc and Stokes to go .. ?? They’re not going to change their style and a group of players they seem very reluctant to change ??? 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Problem is our batsmen don’t give the bowlers time have a rest 
    The Test will probably be over in little over 2 days. 
    Plenty of time to rest.
    "Little over 2 days" might be optimistic. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    MarcusH26 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Head averages 48.14 opening the batting for Australia. Given their crisis up top one suspects that he's going to get that gig soon enough unless someone else suddenly proves themselves. The question for us is - who replaces Crawley? He'll get one more Test but if fails yet again then we have to throw someone in there. 
    Can’t see Crawley being replaced even if he does poorly. They’ve gone ‘All In’ on him and yet again he’s failed to deliver. 
    People know that I have been saying for years that he is a flat track bully. Great when the ball is doing nothing but a "rabbit in headlights" otherwise. Last two tours with 52 runs in 8 innings says it all - it was Henry in NZ and it's Starc here. Technique is everything opening at the highest level.  
    Feels like the best thing for Crawley would be to spend next summer with Kent just playing all formats. Go score 1000+ in the County Championship or something. I know the rest of the opening options can be clumped either into " promising but inexperienced" or " we know what they can do they've had their time" but I can't see how this run of form or lack thereof can be allowed to continue for this whole series. 
    It's not certain he could do that unless we have conditions that are abnormal for April, May and September. There is a reason why his FC average, at 32.18, is barely more than his Test equivalent.   
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Fantastic innings by Head. 100 off 69 balls and the second fastest by an Australian batsman against England. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,345
    That's a magnificent ton. Amazing shot playing, but he was still able to leave the good balls 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,388
    With their depleted bowling we just needed to bat a bit of time. It was well documented the pitch would get flatter. Take starc into his second and third spells, get the ball softer and we could have Bazballed them into the dirt. Instead we slashed at wide ones with a hard ball whilst the bowlers were fresh. 

    Idiocy
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,345
    Problem is our batsmen don’t give the bowlers time have a rest 
    The Test will probably be over in little over 2 days. 
    Plenty of time for the England players to play golf.
    Corrected 
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,435
    I've slept on it a little..
    And im still raging, cant wait for the usual " plenty of cricket left to play " 

    Rate were going be lucky to hit 10 days for the rest of the series. 

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  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,756
    edited November 22
    I guess the only positive you can take is that this is the first test. You’d hope, despite their stubbornness,  they reflect on how badly wrong they’ve got it.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,272
    MarcusH26 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    Head averages 48.14 opening the batting for Australia. Given their crisis up top one suspects that he's going to get that gig soon enough unless someone else suddenly proves themselves. The question for us is - who replaces Crawley? He'll get one more Test but if fails yet again then we have to throw someone in there. 
    Can’t see Crawley being replaced even if he does poorly. They’ve gone ‘All In’ on him and yet again he’s failed to deliver. 
    People know that I have been saying for years that he is a flat track bully. Great when the ball is doing nothing but a "rabbit in headlights" otherwise. Last two tours with 52 runs in 8 innings says it all - it was Henry in NZ and it's Starc here. Technique is everything opening at the highest level.  
    Feels like the best thing for Crawley would be to spend next summer with Kent just playing all formats. Go score 1000+ in the County Championship or something. I know the rest of the opening options can be clumped either into " promising but inexperienced" or " we know what they can do they've had their time" but I can't see how this run of form or lack thereof can be allowed to continue for this whole series. 
    It's not certain he could do that unless we have conditions that are abnormal for April, May and September. There is a reason why his FC average, at 32.18, is barely more than his Test equivalent.   
    Wow I thought his FC average would be a bit more than 32.18! That's really really surprising to me.

    Then again we know the selectors ignore county form anyways. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,176
    Least the boys got to play some golf why they were out there 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,345
    Maybe the has beens who didn't like England's lack of preparation, had a point.

    Apart from the lack of games, as Michael Vaughan noted, the practice game vs England Lions was on a flat pitch without much bounce,  so no preparation for the Perth bounce.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,869
    Laddick01 said:
    I guess the only positive you can take is that this is the first test. You’d hope, despite their stubbornness,  they reflect on how badly wrong they’ve got it.
    Trouble is they won't. 
    In the recent 50 over competition England we're getting bowled out in 30 odd overs. 
    That's carried on to this test. 
    Bazball has a lot to answer for.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Maybe the has beens who didn't like England's lack of preparation, had a point.

    Apart from the lack of games, as Michael Vaughan noted, the practice game vs England Lions was on a flat pitch without much bounce,  so no preparation for the Perth bounce.
    I resent being called a "has been". I'm a "never-been"!!! 

    It isn't just the batters. It's the likes of Wood - how was he going to be match fit, having not played for 9 months, to be spot on for an Ashes Test having bowled just 8 overs last week? Do we even know that he is fit to bowl now because he's only bowled 3 overs in this innings?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    edited November 22
    This win has bought Cummins another Test to miss. 

    Head will now stay up top for Khawaja for the next Test and Webster will slot in at 6 which will give them an extra seamer and spinner if required. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,854
    Aussie 5-0, back to that now
  • At the beginning of the Series I put on a bet for a 4-1 Australia win. I should have made it 5-0. Pope, Root, Brook all went for airyfairy drives outside off stump. Being bowled out in the number of overs we were both innings is a disgrace. All you will hear from Stokes and Mc Callum is that is the way we play.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    100 partnership.

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,054
    Bring em home 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Finally Head out.

    Great sportsmanship from Crawley and Stokes in running over and shaking Head's hand. Can't knock that. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    50 to Labuschagne with a maximum off Root
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    Australia win by 8 wickets inside 2 days. An absolutely desperate and potentially series defining defeat for us. 
  • Commentator suggesting Aussies playing England at their own game! No they didn't, Australia didn't try to hit every ball!!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,345
    The Glenn McGrath 5-0 now looks very possible. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,715
    Very glad I stayed in bed rather than bothered. The thing that got missed in the happiness at the end of day 1 was that the totals were so low a single big innings could easily change the game, and it did
  • The Glenn McGrath 5-0 now looks very possible. 
    I would say probable not possible. Let us not try to dress this defeat up. It has been humbling. A real lesson. This, let us not forget. Is without Cummins and Hazlewood.

  • Awkward.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,365
    raytreacy said:
    The Glenn McGrath 5-0 now looks very possible. 
    I would say probable not possible. Let us not try to dress this defeat up. It has been humbling. A real lesson. This, let us not forget. Is without Cummins and Hazlewood.
    And we had the benefit of winning the toss although, as things turned out, we might have done better to put them in. That's hindsight but the fact remains we've been seriously found out and the result would probably have been the same.