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England Cricket 2025
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Now Duckett has dropped a dolly. We’re our own worst enemy0
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A slack opening 7 overs has pretty much gifted them 20 more runs than they should have
39-0 and we should be looking at 20-11 -
Tongue into the attack and is pretty much on the money from first ball0
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57-0, 12 ovs at drinks1
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Stokes has Weatherald lbw but reviewed. Looked out1
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Stands on umpire’s call on leg stumpCallumcafc said:Stokes has Weatherald lbw but reviewed. Looked out
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50 up for Travis Head at almost a run a ball1
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Potts back on and getting the treatment immediately1
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England review an lbw call on Marnus. Not too hopeful1
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Missing down leg by not very much. Review lost.Callumcafc said:England review an lbw call on Marnus. Not too hopeful
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116-1 at the second drinks break of the session.
A wicket came in over after the last break……..1 -
Thanks Callum for adding the actual score to the chit chat0
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Finally a wicket
162-2
Labuschagne caught at gully off Stokes0 -
Neser comes in as nightwatchman0
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Kaminski could learn a thing or two from the play acting of Nesser there. I’d wager it’ll be miraculously fine tomorrow morning0
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166-2 at stumps. They didn’t even get to finish Stokes’ over before the light drizzle ended things a couple of minutes early.0
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That Smith shot was one of the worst shots I have seen from a so called Test player. I think we should be looking for a new wicketkeeper. His wicket keeping has been poor.0
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375-6 to 384 all out and that collapse all revolved around Smith's dismissal. It was brainless but no more so than so many shots played by other players under this management. "It's the way we play".
For that reason, I'm reluctant to target Smith. He's still only 25 and will be feeling rotten right now. That's not to say that I think he is good enough with bat and gloves right now. I wouldn't be having too much of a go at Potts either who is totally undercooked. The last time he bowled was over five weeks ago and that stat about him playing against seven different opposition in his last eight Tests is pretty damning and a reflection of how he has been treated by the management. If a player thinks he's a bit part player and treated as such then that is exactly what he will become. He won't have bowled enough overs and will try too hard to prove himself. You cannot put someone in that position against world class opposition who are going to target you for those very reasons.
Our problems go far deeper than Smith and Potts. A top three averaging 22.56 is one for starters. A number five incapable of reading the situation and undermining his doubtless talent is another, having a cohort of seamers that cannot hit the same spot consistently and not having/playing a single frontline spinner in the series are others. We'll no doubt thrash average opposition when playing them at home. That will only serve to mask our underlying issues.4 -
Smith’s wicket fell at 6-323 and preceded a 52 run partnership between Root and Jacks so I’m not sure how the following four wickets falling for nine runs is related.
Not to say it wasn’t perhaps the most braindead dismissal of the series. He had already had multiple lives up until that point anyway.2 -
Yep I misread that having not watched it live. That said and although Smith had those lives and might not be good enough, the issues I've mentioned stand - he still put in the book on a good batting deck almost as many as four of our top six put together. He's a current target in the same way as Pope was the previous recipient of such criticism even if there were grounds for doing so. It's quite telling, though, that he's still done better than both Duckett and Bethell.Callumcafc said:Smith’s wicket fell at 6-323 and preceded a 52 run partnership between Root and Jacks so I’m not sure how the following four wickets falling for nine runs is related.
Not to say it wasn’t perhaps the most braindead dismissal of the series. He had already had multiple lives up until that point anyway.
I've also mentioned Brook and him wasting his talent. He's been out just twice in this series under 30 (and just the once in single figures) and yet only averages 39.50. On six/seven of those eight he's been "in" and got out. World class batters simply do not do that.2 -
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Will be interesting to see what side is rolled out in June against New Zealand which won't be an easy series even in home conditions. They'll come all guns blazing with their deep pace attack led by Matt Henry who is well used to English conditions.
Think the top 3 , WK and pace attack are all up for discussion.3 -
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And of course the position of number one spinner. Overall, though, therein lies an issue. Under this regime of loyalty overdone (and always remembering that they have a duty to reward those they have selected as being worthy of having a central contract), they do find it so much harder to make wide-sweeping changes.MarcusH26 said:Will be interesting to see what side is rolled out in June against New Zealand which won't be an easy series even in home conditions. They'll come all guns blazing with their deep pace attack led by Matt Henry who is well used to English conditions.
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I think loyalty especially with this regime is the main problem. I think it's entirely possible that bar Bashir being replaced they just run it back with the same group in the summer and back then to deliver in English conditions.Addick Addict said:
And of course the position of number one spinner. Overall, though, therein lies an issue. Under this regime of loyalty overdone (and always remembering that they have a duty to reward those they have selected as being worthy of having a central contract), they do find it so much harder to make wide-sweeping changes.MarcusH26 said:Will be interesting to see what side is rolled out in June against New Zealand which won't be an easy series even in home conditions. They'll come all guns blazing with their deep pace attack led by Matt Henry who is well used to English conditions.
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Why isn’t Tongue ever given the new ball?
Surely he wants it?2 -
I agree although on paper Potts would make the most use of it in terms of swing but also get the least out of the old ball.kinveachyaddick said:Why isn’t Tongue ever given the new ball?
Surely he wants it?0 -
No excuse for Carse over Tongue with the new ball.cantersaddick said:
I agree although on paper Potts would make the most use of it in terms of swing but also get the least out of the old ball.kinveachyaddick said:Why isn’t Tongue ever given the new ball?
Surely he wants it?
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There were a couple of great shots, but overall Smith's innings was atrocious though, and he was batting against a soft 50 over ball, not the new ball. That he got a reasonable total was entirely down to luck.Addick Addict said:
Yep I misread that having not watched it live. That said and although Smith had those lives and might not be good enough, the issues I've mentioned stand - he still put in the book on a good batting deck almost as many as four of our top six put together. He's a current target in the same way as Pope was the previous recipient of such criticism even if there were grounds for doing so. It's quite telling, though, that he's still done better than both Duckett and Bethell.Callumcafc said:Smith’s wicket fell at 6-323 and preceded a 52 run partnership between Root and Jacks so I’m not sure how the following four wickets falling for nine runs is related.
Not to say it wasn’t perhaps the most braindead dismissal of the series. He had already had multiple lives up until that point anyway.
I've also mentioned Brook and him wasting his talent. He's been out just twice in this series under 30 (and just the once in single figures) and yet only averages 39.50. On six/seven of those eight he's been "in" and got out. World class batters simply do not do that.3 -
From memory, Crawley has a terrible record against Henry. Those seasons playing together at Kent benefited Henry more than Crawley in that battle!MarcusH26 said:Will be interesting to see what side is rolled out in June against New Zealand which won't be an easy series even in home conditions. They'll come all guns blazing with their deep pace attack led by Matt Henry who is well used to English conditions.
Think the top 3 , WK and pace attack are all up for discussion.0 -
That's a bit harsh on Crawley since Henry has only got him out eight times in nine innings for a total of 29 runs in 64 balls at an average of 3.62.killerandflash said:
From memory, Crawley has a terrible record against Henry. Those seasons playing together at Kent benefited Henry more than Crawley in that battle!MarcusH26 said:Will be interesting to see what side is rolled out in June against New Zealand which won't be an easy series even in home conditions. They'll come all guns blazing with their deep pace attack led by Matt Henry who is well used to English conditions.
Think the top 3 , WK and pace attack are all up for discussion.7
