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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,953
    cantersaddick said:
    Stokes struggling with his shoulder now. Bowling on through but it is a worry for sure
    Takes wickets with half a shoulder, what a man 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,905
    fenaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stokes struggling with his shoulder now. Bowling on through but it is a worry for sure
    Takes wickets with half a shoulder, what a man 
    And doing an important job here not just taking wickets and looking threatening but also keeping the other 3 quicks fresh for when the new ball arrives.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,822
    Looks really tough out there now. A nonsense that the next Test starts on Thursday,  the players deserve a proper rest before the 5th Test.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,822
    fenaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stokes struggling with his shoulder now. Bowling on through but it is a worry for sure
    Takes wickets with half a shoulder, what a man 
    It's just a flesh wound.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,982
    killerandflash said:
    Looks really tough out there now. A nonsense that the next Test starts on Thursday,  the players deserve a proper rest before the 5th Test.
    Yep, plus 9 days between tests 3 and 4 and that's not even considered back to back. It damages the quality, Bumrah won't play and I don't see much point Stokes playing if England win today. Plus add Siraj and maybe Archer to the rest room. 

    As long as KP Crisps get to play Tyrrell's crisps on 5th August though. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    This is heading for a draw. Sadly. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,742
    With the way Gill has gone to date, he could end up beating Bradman's record of 974 in a series. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,742
    Addick Addict said:
    With the way Gill has gone to date, he could end up beating Bradman's record of 974 in a series. 
    It's a gift!!!
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    FFS !!"
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,953
    So close!
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,603
    Tough chance. Sometimes they stick, sometimes they dont. Might be the game though because with him gone I think we'd have won it by tea.

    Now I think it will be a draw. India will get a lead and we wont have enough time to chase it down. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,742
    golfaddick said:
    Tough chance. Sometimes they stick, sometimes they dont. Might be the game though because with him gone I think we'd have won it by tea.

    Now I think it will be a draw. India will get a lead and we wont have enough time to chase it down. 
    They only scored 49 runs in the session at less than 2 runs an over and are still 88 behind. Yes they might put the foot down but not without potentially losing wickets more quickly. They are going to have to bat for most of the day to be certain of a draw.  
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,979
    Rudders22 said:
    This is heading for a draw. Sadly. 
    Still a long way to go. If we can get 2 more wickets quickly after lunch then we're into the tail plus Pant is clearly going to struggle. New ball is still only 9 overs old as well.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,742
    England 1.93
    Draw 2.06
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,285
    This has draw written all over it 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    Yep, the moment Stoke and Pope pulled up with cramp and now injuries has stopped us winning this. I felt we needed about a 400 to 450 lead. Stokes now injured has rule out a win.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    Hard to believe  that they were 0-2
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    We need to get 2 lucky wickets to  have a chance. like a played on or a silly run out. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,323
    Rudders22 said:
    Yep, the moment Stoke and Pope pulled up with cramp and now injuries has stopped us winning this. I felt we needed about a 400 to 450 lead. Stokes now injured has rule out a win.
    Reaching a lead of 450 would have meant England having even fewer overs in which to take ten wickets. Why would they have taken wickets at a considerably faster rate with a bigger lead? 

    I like the ambition of aiming for a lead of 450. But, seeing as England have only done this twice in more than 1,000 Tests, it's a bit of a stretch. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,742
    Addick Addict said:
    England 1.93
    Draw 2.06
    Less than an hour later: 

    England 4.20
    Draw 1.30
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,979
    This has to be one of the biggest anti-climaxes to a test ever.

    To go from having them at 0/2 just before lunch on day 4 and staring a series defeat in the face to being 314/4 on the afternoon of day 5 is pretty wild.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,863
    How I wished we had a young good set of bowlers. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,822
    We got well over 600, this was never going to be a 250 all out pitch unless India batted badly.

    Grinding out a draw is exactly what England didn't do well enough in the second test.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,821
    At last we have got rid of Bashir for a proper day 5 spinner to guide us to victory 
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 146
    Dawson looks completely unthreatening. I think Bashir would have bowled better on this pitch.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,445
    edited July 27
    DennisBooth said:
    Dawson looks completely unthreatening. I think Bashir would have bowled better on this pitch.
    Yeah. Holds an end up but not a lot else.

    Stokes now seeing why he didn't play for eight years!
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Dawson hardly even turning it, can see now why he's barely had any test call ups
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,661
    Let's be honest here.
    England do not have a single spin bowler that is remotely good enough for  Test  cricket. 
    There are of course many reasons for this but unfortunately it's where we are
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,021
    Dawson has never been a big turner of the ball , he holds up an end in red ball and is a very handy white ball spinner.

    Blackpool is right , we just don't produce test quality spinners and end up cycling through various bits and pieces options. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,953
    I guess that’s why they’ve got behind Bashir, try to develop one from near the beginning of their career. He just hasn’t developed well enough 

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