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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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But without those loans they would never have made Wembley at all.Richard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.
Similarly without Gallagher in the first half of 19/20, we would have been relegated well before the last day of the season.8 -
Should have thrown a muffin at his head....the twat....Mendonca In Asdas said:Just at Starbucks Gatwick airport, I’m sure I’ve just seen Macauley Bonne, not sure if he’s signing for us.10 -
As you say the loans from the PL to Championship sides are going to be of greater ability and I’m sure NJ and PC will recognise that and take advantage if they can.soapboxsam said:If Phil Chapple tells Nathan there's a 21 year old from a Premier club who needs a half season loan or full season loan in the Championship with the provision that both sides can terminate early if need be and the Premier club will pay 75% of the wages then NJ would say yes IF that player was a midfielder combative player with a decent touch/pass and great stamina then why wouldn't Jones say yes please Big man ?
He doesn't want too many loans but this is a step up and that may be the only way we can get a bit more class to go with the excellent application and team work of the players who clean sheeted cafc into the Championship.0 -
Why would we want loan players like Gallagher, JRS, Bielik and Maatsen? It would mean dropping Docherty, TC, Coventry and Edwards.
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We've had endless rebuilds these last few summers, players on shorter term contracts or loans, or being crap, meaning a yearly churn.If the club wants more phasing of contract ending dates to stop mass movements of players every year, then loans will be used, but only as a last resort is my guess. Short term but permanent deals treated similarly.
At the moment, not much credence being given to any rumours except the lad from Brighton, and the only player in so far wasn't rumoured first I don't think. We're in for a fascinating summer.
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I see it more as a positive rather than a downside especially for smaller clubs, for a club like Orient, a play-off final they never thought would happen, thanks to laregly in part loan signings, they simply could not get to that position without them or even attract permnant players of there calibre, I am sure there fans rather have that and it works than just mid table mediocrity withoutRichard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.1 -
Did he give you the right change?Mendonca In Asdas said:Just at Starbucks Gatwick airport, I’m sure I’ve just seen Macauley Bonne, not sure if he’s signing for us.18 -
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Nope, he went hand it over and missedsoapy_jones said:
Did he give you the right change?Mendonca In Asdas said:Just at Starbucks Gatwick airport, I’m sure I’ve just seen Macauley Bonne, not sure if he’s signing for us.7 -
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But Orient is an example of how loans can benefit a club in the short term.ForeverAddickted said:
In Keeley, Donley and Kelman they've got three key areas of the pitch they'll need to replace this coming summer, and will probably be the big reason why they may struggle to repeat their achievements from last season.Richard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.
At least with us going up, we know that none of the starting eleven have to be replaced, simply because we dont / cant get individuals on loan again, like Bielik in 2019-20.
I like loans how Jones has utilised them this season, having to replace Gallagher / Rak-Sakyi etc. in recent years has almost been a bit of a minor issue for us.
Despite having one of the lower budgets, reported as 16th, they finish 6th so punched well above their weight.
They were one game from promotion and got a day out at Wembley.
Yes, they now have to rebuild which is Jones' point.
He wants to build a long term project with players fully committed to his ideas who will stick around. I don't think Glibert, for example, wasn't committed and nor were players at the end of contracts (Watson, Small, Aneke) but for longer term planning your own players with longer contracts are "better".
Not necessarily better talents but a better fit for what Jones demands.
I still think we'll have a few loans, we just won't be over reliant on them.4 -
NJ's comments re loans was us in L1, we are in a different universe now.6
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Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.2
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I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.3 -
We certainly don't want to be (and i doubt we will), in a position where we've got 4 loan players in the first team. I know Jones isn't a fan of loans but if we can get 1-2 PL loans in of the quality of Gallagher and Rak-Sakyi, then i don't see the harm in that.Richard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.
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Vile post to speculate on what we can and can't pay! This is toxic.wmcf123 said:
I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.
We will pay what we want to pay! We don't know how much Championship teams pay. We aren't paying these players flippin peanuts.
Time to log off I think. Need the season to start.8 -
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You are painfully unfunnyBraziliance said:
Vile post to speculate on what we can and can't pay! This is toxic.wmcf123 said:
I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.
We will pay what we want to pay! We don't know how much Championship teams pay. We aren't paying these players flippin peanuts.
Time to log off I think. Need the season to start.38 -
If we want a keeper, I hear Beadle’s about.Not going back to Chef Wendy.0
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Thought Bradley was off to Birmingham0
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Well that's my weekend and potentially year ruined you don't find me funny ffs.arny23394 said:
You are painfully unfunnyBraziliance said:
Vile post to speculate on what we can and can't pay! This is toxic.wmcf123 said:
I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.
We will pay what we want to pay! We don't know how much Championship teams pay. We aren't paying these players flippin peanuts.
Time to log off I think. Need the season to start.3 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:
We certainly don't want to be (and i doubt we will), in a position where we've got 4 loan players in the first team. I know Jones isn't a fan of loans but if we can get 1-2 PL loans in of the quality of Gallagher and Rak-Sakyi, then i don't see the harm in that.Richard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.
Sunderland and Burnley both had 4 players on loan last season. I doubt they are upset about it.4 -
Because he joined BirminghamValiantphil said:If we want a keeper, I hear Beadle’s about.Not going back to Chef Wendy.1 -
Exactly that, we supposedly only have 4-5 players people mention maybe good enough to step up, bring in 3-4 class loans and buy 3-4 class players we will have a much better fighting chance.Athletico Charlton said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
We certainly don't want to be (and i doubt we will), in a position where we've got 4 loan players in the first team. I know Jones isn't a fan of loans but if we can get 1-2 PL loans in of the quality of Gallagher and Rak-Sakyi, then i don't see the harm in that.Richard J said:We saw the downside of loans for Orient last season. Without Currie , Donley Keeley and Kelman the O's would not have come close to the Play Offs.Having failed in that objective they now need to start again. In contrast Campbell ( he did play well against Birmingham) Gilbert and McIntyre added depth none of them made the impact that the Orient loanees did.
Sunderland and Burnley both had 4 players on loan last season. I doubt they are upset about it.1 -
Couldn’t agree more.arny23394 said:
You are painfully unfunnyBraziliance said:
Vile post to speculate on what we can and can't pay! This is toxic.wmcf123 said:
I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.
We will pay what we want to pay! We don't know how much Championship teams pay. We aren't paying these players flippin peanuts.
Time to log off I think. Need the season to start.0 -
Yep, I'll agree to this as well.Yann897 said:
Couldn’t agree more.arny23394 said:
You are painfully unfunnyBraziliance said:
Vile post to speculate on what we can and can't pay! This is toxic.wmcf123 said:
I wouldn’t worry. If we didn’t have the cash to tempt Small to stay, we won’t be anywhere near him.Gisappointed said:Decent and adaptable but unlikely to want to sit on bench. We desperately need a pacy LCB.
We will pay what we want to pay! We don't know how much Championship teams pay. We aren't paying these players flippin peanuts.
Time to log off I think. Need the season to start.2
