Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level.
Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence.
One question about Kelman if you could answer please, if he is that good why aren't QPR a championship club who finished just 7 points off relegation last year and only scored 53 goals in 46 games keeping him and playing him this season ???
Great question and only QPR have the answer to that.
Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level.
Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence.
If we hadn’t signed Olaofe then I’d be fine with us signing Kelman. But we already have TC and Olaofe for the running the channels and in behind striker role, so if we are spending £2m+ on a player I’d much rather it be something we are still lacking, which for me is a player for the Godden/Leaburn role who is capable of winning duels as well as scoring goals, Kelman isn’t that type of player
In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day. It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.
But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.
Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level.
Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence.
One question about Kelman if you could answer please, if he is that good why aren't QPR a championship club who finished just 7 points off relegation last year and only scored 53 goals in 46 games keeping him and playing him this season ???
In fairness sometimes players are just not right for the club saw it with Dobson at Sunderland etc. Although I’m also not sure on Kelman i know Apter, Oloafe are big risks but I can distinctively remember them giving Ramsay and Small really hard games to play against. Kelman played us 3 times last season I couldn’t tell u one time he did something well on the pitch.
He scored 2 against Stockport in the play offs, 1 a mile offside and the other a penalty, outside of that he only scored 1 goal against a top 6 side all season.
Also has to be considered that we play a completely different style to Orient. He could lead the line for Orient in league 1 because of the way they play, he could not lead the line for us and the way we play. He is not Godden.
If we signed him he’d fit the TC and Olaofe role, run into the channels and in behind, and score goals. He’d probably be an upgrade there, but if we’re spending £2m+ on a player I’d rather they filled a gap or upgraded an area we are weak in, rather than adding a 3rd player to a role we already have 2 good players in
Has Kelman actually signed for someone else, I know Luton and some mob in the USA were interested, but why not us? I know @ForeverAddickted was keen if I remember correctly...🙄
In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day. It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.
But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.
Is that also what Kelman offers?
I wouldn’t like to say. Certainly in recent times he has been a rather prolific scorer, so I don’t think composure is a problem. He seems to be a player that can finish the work of others.
In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day. It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.
But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.
Is that also what Kelman offers?
I wouldn’t like to say. Certainly in recent times he has been a rather prolific scorer, so I don’t think composure is a problem. He seems to be a player that can finish the work of others.
Which is what poachers do, of course.
One thing I forgot to mention with Mendonca, was his superb 1st touch and mastery of the ball in tight situations in the box.
He could also drop a shoulder, swivel twist and turn.
Does Kelman offer that also, or am I expecting too much from a young player compared to a mature experienced Mendonca in his prime?
But the big question, as suggested by others, does Kelman fit NJ's gameplay and style of play?
You may well be correct and since you started this thread on April 9th we have reached page 423 which isn't too shabby and compared to other years its been more enjoyable even if there's always has to be some padding out and tangential movement.
Maybe time for a new transfer rumour whether tenuous or substantial as Charlie Kelman and his Knibbs have had a good run.
Got a friend flying back from Kyoto airport this morning, told them to let me know if they see anybody who looks like Fukuda, to quote " I'm not being racist but I've seen about 30 people that look like him, What do you expect me to do, check passports or just be on lookout for someone dribbling through passport control?
Got a friend flying back from Kyoto airport this morning, told them to let me know if they see anybody who looks like Fukuda, to quote " I'm not being racist but I've seen about 30 people that look like him, What do you expect me to do, check passports or just be on lookout for someone dribbling through passport control?
Taxi driver holding up a sign with his name on would be priceless. Charlton badge on the sign presumably.
Well, my WhatsApp group tells me, we’ve put a bid in for him. 🤷🏻♂️
I think us having put a bid (which was rejected) for Kelman was announced on Monday, in a credible tweet
The rejected bid that was reported this week was for the Japanese player. I don’t think it has been reported anywhere that we have bid for Kelman. Except…😉
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Great question and only QPR have the answer to that.
But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.
Is that also what Kelman offers?
Also has to be considered that we play a completely different style to Orient. He could lead the line for Orient in league 1 because of the way they play, he could not lead the line for us and the way we play. He is not Godden.
I know @ForeverAddickted was keen if I remember correctly...🙄
So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
One thing I forgot to mention with Mendonca, was his superb 1st touch and mastery of the ball in tight situations in the box.
He could also drop a shoulder, swivel twist and turn.
Does Kelman offer that also, or am I expecting too much from a young player compared to a mature experienced Mendonca in his prime?
But the big question, as suggested by others, does Kelman fit NJ's gameplay and style of play?
You may well be correct and since you started this thread on April 9th we have reached page 423 which isn't too shabby and compared to other years its been more enjoyable even if there's always has to be some padding out and tangential movement.
Maybe time for a new transfer rumour whether tenuous or substantial as Charlie Kelman and his Knibbs have had a good run.
Don't get WhatsApp and club call mixed up !
Kelman wouldn't gel in our current side, he might have in Curb's.