Jonjo Shelvey
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No disrespect but I think he'd slow Arsenal down.Kap10 said:I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.
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In terms of the Newcastle rumour, he'd certainly fill the void that they're missing at the moment since Cabaye left
Not saying he's as good as Cabaye... mean more in terms of being able to create goals1 -
He can do better than Newcastle in my opinion.
Maybe not top 3 yet but he's only 22 (I think!).0 -
Its actually 6. Benitez was Liverpool manager when he went there, Then Hodgson, then Daglish, then Rodgers. Swansea he's had Laudrup and Monk.Kap10 said:
Why would anyone in their right mind go to Newcastle whose chairman does not want them to win things because it will cost too much.LenGlover said:
Pardew wants him according to Football Gossip on the BBC.Kap10 said:I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.
One hopes he'll have more sense!
EDIT: Already mentioned above by Red Robin so ignore.
Pardew may want him but hopefully he won't reciprocate and let's face it come august Pardew may not be there. Jonjo has had 5 managers since he left us so could do with some stability.
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Monk aside, who is his favourite?uncle said:
Its actually 6. Benitez was Liverpool manager when he went there, Then Hodgson, then Daglish, then Rodgers. Swansea he's had Laudrup and Monk.Kap10 said:
Why would anyone in their right mind go to Newcastle whose chairman does not want them to win things because it will cost too much.LenGlover said:
Pardew wants him according to Football Gossip on the BBC.Kap10 said:I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.
One hopes he'll have more sense!
EDIT: Already mentioned above by Red Robin so ignore.
Pardew may want him but hopefully he won't reciprocate and let's face it come august Pardew may not be there. Jonjo has had 5 managers since he left us so could do with some stability.
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Oh I'm not sure, I would have to ask him....1
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Parky.7
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I really hope he doesn't go there. Everton would be a great move for Jonjo.6
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I think he should stay at Swansea. They're a great match already for him, especially playing with Bony, a poor man's Deon Burton.3
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No it wasn't, nearly bounced over the bar.North Lower Neil said:
Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.kentaddick said:People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.
Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!
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Rooney's bounced on the line. Shelvey's went in the top corner. Rooney will get the nod from MOTD but Goal of the Season is all Man U will win this season.2
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only on charlton life will you find some one who thinks a shot into the top corner from the halfway line isn't as good as one that weakly bounced over the line.7
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I don't.0
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#TeamShelvey2
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Shelveys is better but the Fulham volley away to Palace is better.1
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Shelvey's was most similar to a Petrov hit FOR Villa a few seasons back (vs Derby I think)0
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The problem with the England team is that there is a pecking order. It's not selected on form or the creation of a team of players that compliment eachother in a formation.
If it wasn't like that then shelvey would get his share of games as he has gone through some great spells of form.1 -
But if it was purely form you never get a settled team. Would change each game. You need to do it over a period of time and I reckon will get capped in next three to four years.0
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I'm pretty sure Jonjo tried to score from a similar position when he was in our youth team, but just missed. Does anyone remember this? It may have been in an earlier round of the Youth Cup the year Sunderland beat us with goals from Waghorn and Jordan Henderson.0
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Was a shit goal lucky beyond belief and what the fuck would a wet spam midget know about football 8)
Apart from that he is charlton made so that goal was made in SE7 made me pleased and proud as punch he scored it2 -
Nobnth london addick said:Was a shit goal lucky beyond belief and what the fuck would a wet spam midget know about football 8)
Apart from that he is charlton made so that goal was made in SE7 made me pleased and proud as punch he scored it
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Alright me old china
How's things in the world of the vertically challenged0 -
Things not to bad been better but I never moan. How are things in the world of rotundly unchallenged?nth london addick said:Alright me old china
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Dripping with temptations mate
I will pm you a number to get me on and have a bevy pre season ??1 -
i laughed when on MOTD they said JJS learnt that from charlie adam at liverpool. as if.andynelson said:I'm pretty sure Jonjo tried to score from a similar position when he was in our youth team, but just missed. Does anyone remember this? It may have been in an earlier round of the Youth Cup the year Sunderland beat us with goals from Waghorn and Jordan Henderson.
i remember many similar efforts from JJS for us (dont think any of them want in unfortunately). I also remember one game at the Valley when I think he tried it 3 times from about centre circle - one went off for a throw on but one the keeper had to make a good save for and couldnt hold it. I was and am a huge fan of his style of play....he wants to boss it and impose himself on the game. that shows character. he doesnt hide when the going gets tough.
JJS is like thomas muller the raumdeuter (spacefinder)- he has a great knack of moving around the pitch unnoticed and popping up in key positions unmarked.
i really feel he should stay at Swansea as they could be a force with Michu and Bony if they can play together. Also why move when you are settled.
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The downside of Liverpool move was he found himself behind that donkey Henderson purely in terms of fee paid justifying purchase. I had my doubts because JJ lacked pace but much quicker now. England must when Gerrard retired. Others mentioned above are different trpes of players.uncle said:N
Not sure you are fully aware of all the facts surronding the move! He was warming the bench for parky and Charlton were on their arse financially. Liverpool made an offer with enough money to keep Charlton afloat. The decission was more or less made for him by the club. I'm not saying he wouldn't have gone anyway but he had turned down offers from other big clubs. I see no comparisson to parker but that's just my opinion. I thought his move to liverpool was good for him. Maybe not in enough game time (but let's face it, he wasn't getting any at Charlton) but in his training and how they have built him into a much stronger player. That might have happened at Charlton, but that is only a might and at liverpool it did happen. He's trained with some of the best players in the country, played european football. All of this would have been impossible with Charlton. I fail to see why you don't think it was the right move apart from, its your team he left. I wonder if you were in that position you would have said no?Steve Dowman said:
cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.kentaddick said:
LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.North Lower Neil said:
Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.kentaddick said:People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.
Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!
Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
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And the downside to not going to Liverpool meant he would find himself behind Racon, Sam and Semedo! Not sure what would have been more soul destroying.harveys gardener said:
The downside of Liverpool move was he found himself behind that donkey Henderson purely in terms of fee paid justifying purchase. I had my doubts because JJ lacked pace but much quicker now. England must when Gerrard retired. Others mentioned above are different trpes of players.uncle said:N
Not sure you are fully aware of all the facts surronding the move! He was warming the bench for parky and Charlton were on their arse financially. Liverpool made an offer with enough money to keep Charlton afloat. The decission was more or less made for him by the club. I'm not saying he wouldn't have gone anyway but he had turned down offers from other big clubs. I see no comparisson to parker but that's just my opinion. I thought his move to liverpool was good for him. Maybe not in enough game time (but let's face it, he wasn't getting any at Charlton) but in his training and how they have built him into a much stronger player. That might have happened at Charlton, but that is only a might and at liverpool it did happen. He's trained with some of the best players in the country, played european football. All of this would have been impossible with Charlton. I fail to see why you don't think it was the right move apart from, its your team he left. I wonder if you were in that position you would have said no?Steve Dowman said:
cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.kentaddick said:
LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.North Lower Neil said:
Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.kentaddick said:People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.
Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!
Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.7 -
Uncle, Liverpool needed him this season.
He is just going from strength to strength.
I can see Hodgson coming for him in a week or so. Why wouldn't he. His form is very strong. Wilshere is crocked, Gerrard will be knackered. Lumphard is finished. No midfielder at Manure deserves a chance. Who English, is playing better than him at the moment?0 -
Danny Greenbingaddick said:Uncle, Liverpool needed him this season.
He is just going from strength to strength.
I can see Hodgson coming for him in a week or so. Why wouldn't he. His form is very strong. Wilshere is crocked, Gerrard will be knackered. Lumphard is finished. No midfielder at Manure deserves a chance. Who English, is playing better than him at the moment?5
