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Evans back at SUFC (agreed terms with Oldham p.25)

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Wasn't it Oldham that signed Lee Hughes?
  • Yep
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    PL54 said:

    How did his fast-tracked appeal go ?

    Don't think it has been heard yet and its not actually an appeal, its to be granted leave to appeal - I think.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Not sure how well the 'not being named' thing was going to go. How far were they intending on taking it? Would they announce that they'd signed Ed Chevans and see if no one noticed?
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053

    Sky News revealed the name by mistake.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drX5WNw_UwM&feature=youtu.be

    could lose his job over that, if the club were supposed to remain nameless
    He would certainly have lost his job if he had revealed the victim's name.
  • He's a regular on Sky News. They, as a conpany, have never done anything to show any integrity in the past, why now?

    You're also assuming it was a slip, opposed to being the broadcaster that 'broke the story'!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Right. I'm never going to Oldham again !
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited January 2015
    Signing for Oldham.


    ...oops thanks Colin.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220

    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly

    "Everyone" didn't forget about them signing Lee Hughes though.

    And I think their signing of Evans will be remembered long after he's stopped playing for them, assuming he ever does.
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  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    It's not done and dusted yet and I hope they see sense and don't go through with it.

    Amazing to see the reactions of local Oldham folk/fans on the tv interviews a few minutes back and also some of the rubbish spouted on their forum.

    I'm not sure who their sponsors are but I'd assume they must have consulted with them beforehand or this could be a nightmare for them.

    I can't remember if it's been commented on before in this thread but genuinely quite surprised to see the PFA/Gordon Taylor offering such support to Evans in a public manner.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,961
    red_murph said:

    It's not done and dusted yet and I hope they see sense and don't go through with it.

    Amazing to see the reactions of local Oldham folk/fans on the tv interviews a few minutes back and also some of the rubbish spouted on their forum.

    I'm not sure who their sponsors are but I'd assume they must have consulted with them beforehand or this could be a nightmare for them.

    I can't remember if it's been commented on before in this thread but genuinely quite surprised to see the PFA/Gordon Taylor offering such support to Evans in a public manner.

    I'm not - Taylor has shown himself many times to be an apologist for footballers' worst excesses.
  • Taylor has made a great living off of being friend to all players good and bad
  • Sky News revealed the name by mistake.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drX5WNw_UwM&feature=youtu.be

    could lose his job over that, if the club were supposed to remain nameless
    He would certainly have lost his job if he had revealed the victim's name.
    What has that got to do with anything?

    One person has their identity protected by law, the other is a club signing a convicted rapist.

    Proper weird comment.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    The victim couldn't visit her family this Christmas and is in hiding again

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-rape-victim-changes-4883888#ICID=sharebar_twitter
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited January 2015
    red_murph said:

    It's not done and dusted yet and I hope they see sense and don't go through with it.

    Amazing to see the reactions of local Oldham folk/fans on the tv interviews a few minutes back and also some of the rubbish spouted on their forum.

    I'm not sure who their sponsors are but I'd assume they must have consulted with them beforehand or this could be a nightmare for them.

    I can't remember if it's been commented on before in this thread but genuinely quite surprised to see the PFA/Gordon Taylor offering such support to Evans in a public manner.

    Mike Ashleys very own Sports Direct

    Stadium name was changed as well to Sportsdirect.com Park
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678

    Right. I'm never going to Oldham again !

    Good to hear this.
    It's one of my great pleasures of an evening, getting the chance to Oldham.
    With respect, I'd not be happy with you getting to Oldham in my place.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365

    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly

    We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,783
    I just find it strange that (because of his conviction) he's not allowed to leave the country, yet we don't seem to have a problem letting convicted rapists & murderers in from the rest of europe..........
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Because he hasn't served his sentence
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Rothko said:

    Because he hasn't served his sentence

    If I ever get sentenced, I'll ask if I can play centre forward for Charlton :-)
  • I just find it strange that (because of his conviction) he's not allowed to leave the country, yet we don't seem to have a problem letting convicted rapists & murderers in from the rest of europe..........

    I'm sure once he's done the full 5 years he's free to leave, although many countries wouldn't let him in.
  • Rothko said:

    Because he hasn't served his sentence

    If I ever get sentenced, I'll ask if I can play centre forward for Charlton :-)
    Charlton aren't stupid enough to sign you in that situation.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Interesting story in the Independent tomorrow, Lee Johnson, Oldham manager didn't want Evans, but was overruled at board level
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    cafctom said:

    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly

    We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
    What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.



  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365

    cafctom said:

    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly

    We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
    What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.



    Nonsense.

    Lee Hughes made a huge mistake - which he then pleaded guilty to. He didn't go out with the intention of killing someone that night.

    Ched Evans has been legally declared of the crime of rape - an action that he was conscious of at the time, and still hasn't apologised for.

    If you've attended a game where Hughes has played you'll have noticed that he gets a fair bit of stick, but it doesn't seem to go beyond that. The level of abuse Evans is going to get will be on a whole new level, trust me.
  • braydex
    braydex Posts: 628
    I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    braydex said:

    I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.

    Opinions are opinions - but this guy had a jury unanimously deem him guilty having studied all of the evidence. They then rejected his appeal without giving it a second thought.

    I'm going to take their word for it over Ched Evans' word.
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,595
    braydex said:

    I think you really have to read up On the ched Evans story to be able to make a judgement on if he should still be playing football or not. Yes he was found guilty, but there is definitely something not right about the case/ trial. He has always maintained his innocence and if that is the case, why should he apologise? If you were convicted of a crime you didn't commit, would you apologise for doing it? No. He did apologise to his girlfriend and family for having sex with the girl in question. He did apologise to his fans, his club etc for letting them down etc. but he always maintained sex was consensual. I think he was a prat for doing it but I'm not convinced it was rape. Should he get a second chance. IMO, yes. At charlton??.......personally, I wouldn't mind. We all make mistakes and I think he made a gigantic one. But for me it was just a massive mistake and not a crime.

    Hmmm interesting view. What do others on here think?

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    cafctom said:

    cafctom said:

    If everyone managed to forget about Oldham signing Lee Hughes then I'm sure people will forget about Ched Evans signing even more quickly

    We're talking about a man convicted of rape who has never once come close to apologising for his actions. A whole different kettle of fish from the Lee Hughes situation, or any situation we've seen in English football before.
    What Hughes did was far, far worse. He killed a bloke. Killed. He ran away from the scene, leaving him to die.



    Nonsense.

    Lee Hughes made a huge mistake - which he then pleaded guilty to. He didn't go out with the intention of killing someone that night.

    Ched Evans has been legally declared of the crime of rape - an action that he was conscious of at the time, and still hasn't apologised for.

    If you've attended a game where Hughes has played you'll have noticed that he gets a fair bit of stick, but it doesn't seem to go beyond that. The level of abuse Evans is going to get will be on a whole new level, trust me.
    Lee Hughes got into a car knowing he was drunk so in my mind he is culpable of murder whatever the law says otherwise. He's a scumbag. He ran away from the scene leaving a man to die. Scumbag.