Cheltenham 2015 Thread

Addick Addict said:

mid_life_crisis said:

A very poor day for the home challenge.
Saturday after Saturday we watch Nicholls and Henderson cleaning up the big races and completely dominating the domestic action.
Then, come the festival, the Irish bring over the big guns and slaughter the home challenge in most of the important races. I discount the handicaps from this, as we have managed to handicap most of the Irish challenge into submission.
Where is it going wrong for the British trainers?

I think what's happened is that the Irish used to solely rely on home produced horses. Then Martin Pipe, Paul Nicholls etc started to buy French breds that were more precocious than their Irish counterparts so the owners attached to the the likes of the Mullins stable decided to do the same - and now they have the pick of both.

In 2004, for example, Mullins sent over 18 horses of which just one was French bred. In 2014 he sent over 37 of which 14 were French breds.

It also helps when you have an owner such as Rich Ricci (quote from two years ago):

Ricci loves raising horses—he and his wife own 40 horses in total—but his true passion is entering them in Irish horse races. When asked about why he prefers to race his horses in Ireland rather than in, say, England where he lives, Ricci responded: “I often get calls from trainers in England wondering why I don’t have horses in training there, considering I’m based in England (actually Kent), but I just love Irish racing. The people are fantastic, the atmosphere is really good and the prize-money is still attractive. My wife and I get a real buzz from it.”


And those horses include, of course, Douvan, Faugheen, Annie Power, Vautour Champagne Fever, Djakadam etc etc.

Marvellous what £100m buys for you isn't it.

I think that is a fair point AA.
Overall I think the quality of the domestic NH racing is poor, including many of the big Saturday meetings. Our best horses can end up winning a load of soft races, looking like world-beaters until they have to mix it in better company. Bit like some of our cricketers!

Well my Cheltenham bets today did me no favours laid out £3.00 got £1.39 back. So I did Reading to beat Brighton @17/10 and got £5.40 back for a £2 bet, so ended up £1.79 richer across the day!! Wow!!! Tomorrow my bets will be on here by 10:00 am, still I only do this for a bit of fun, so please don't follow what I do...I haven't a clue to be honest but I do like my Lucky 15's, 31's and 63's.

John Inverdale has had a Cheltenham shocker. Just You Tube his name and 'Rose Coloured'. Brilliant

cabbles said:

dancafc said:

I done a super heinz cost £6 covered every race and bagged 5 out of 7 should have been 6 out of 7 but for annie power still banked £263 not bad at all

What is that please dancafc?

The super heinz is a 7 selection wager consisting of 120 bets: 21 doubles, 35 trebles, 35 four-folds, 21 five-folds, 7 six-folds and a seven-fold accumulator.

Ps Picked my horses for day 2, not confident so wont put up.
A bit leftfield, a bit french and 1 heart ruled head.

Absurdistan said:

cabbles said:

dancafc said:

I done a super heinz cost £6 covered every race and bagged 5 out of 7 should have been 6 out of 7 but for annie power still banked £263 not bad at all

What is that please dancafc?

The super heinz is a 7 selection wager consisting of 120 bets: 21 doubles, 35 trebles, 35 four-folds, 21 five-folds, 7 six-folds and a seven-fold accumulator.

Ps Picked my horses for day 2, not confident so wont put up.
A bit leftfield, a bit french and 1 heart ruled head.

So he did all that with £6?

Absurdistan said:

cabbles said:

dancafc said:

I done a super heinz cost £6 covered every race and bagged 5 out of 7 should have been 6 out of 7 but for annie power still banked £263 not bad at all

What is that please dancafc?

Picked my horses for day 2, not confident so wont put up.
.....

buck, bck, bck, bck

cafcledbury said:

Well of to Cheltenham day 2 lady's day . Hopefully I have a better day could not pick a winner only two 3rds. .so @PeanutsMolloy .am going to follow your tips. Sorry to put the mockers on you

Are you mad? Have you seen Apache Jack's recent form? I do have a fancy that he'll go much better on good ground but it could be HORRIBLE!

Save yourself, before it's too late!!!!!!

Gotta put them up abs confident or not

Addick Addict said:

Bentelimar 28/1
Josses Hill 12/1 3rd
Gevrey Chambertin 14/1
Arctic Fire 20/1 2nd
Carole's Spirit 20/1
Cause Of Causes 7/1 1st
Generous Ransom 10/1 3rd

21 E/W Lucky 31s with Betfred. One winner = 4 times stake. Plus small E/W sixfolds and E/W acca with Bet 365.

Douvan 5/2 1st
Un De Sceaux 4/5 1st
Ned Stark 9/1
Jezki 5/1
Annie Power 4/6
Keltus 17/2

Doubles, fourfolds, fivefolds and E/W acca with Bet 365.

Squeezed a small profit. More to the point leading the Fantasy Cheltenham which is really what it is all about. Isn't it?

cafcledbury said:

Peanut I have no clue about horse racing. Just pick a name and Hope for the best .

You'll probably conclude that I have no clue about horse racing by 2.45

Have a great day.

dancafc said:

cabbles said:

Absurdistan said:

cabbles said:

dancafc said:

I done a super heinz cost £6 covered every race and bagged 5 out of 7 should have been 6 out of 7 but for annie power still banked £263 not bad at all

What is that please dancafc?

The super heinz is a 7 selection wager consisting of 120 bets: 21 doubles, 35 trebles, 35 four-folds, 21 five-folds, 7 six-folds and a seven-fold accumulator.

Ps Picked my horses for day 2, not confident so wont put up.
A bit leftfield, a bit french and 1 heart ruled head.

So he did all that with £6?

Yes mate if you do it online put your selections in the go to the multiple bets on the slip and super heinz put the amount as 0.05 which is 5p a line it works out I also do the acca at 50p ew coz if they all win I won't be going to work again lol

Okay thanks. I'll give it a shot! Just got to work out which horses to put it on now

Todays selections (losers, knowing my luck)

NICHOLS CANYON @ 4/1
Horse Racing Outright 13:30
DON POLI @ 7/4
Horse Racing Outright 14:05
AUX PTITS SOINS @ 8/1
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 14:40
DODGING BULLETS @ 11/2
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 15:20
Multiple Type Lucky 15 (EW)

SIRE DE GRUGY @ 7/2
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 15:20
DUKE OF LUCCA @ 6/1
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 16:00
BOX OFFICE @ 16/1
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 16:40
STONE HARD @ 16/1
Horse Racing Outright ­ Race 17:15
Multiple Type Lucky 15 (EW)

Windsor park
Don poli
Taglietelle
Dodging bullets
Toutancarmint
Unanimite
Wait for me

Feeling better about today's horses than I did yesterday.

smiffyboy said:

PeanutsMolloy said:

smiffyboy said:

Peanuts cause of causes being aimed at the GN

Best chance of making money on CofC in the GN (IMHO) is if Shutthefrontdoor goes badly on Saturday at Kempton or is a doubt to line up and the market decides that AP will be on board.
Current 40s on Betfair Win market would look huge if so. Surely AP will go out wearing green and gold.

Without a shadow of doubt AP will be riding in green and yellow, how's the model looking ATM do we have any early candidates yet?

Despite my model's penalty for his age, it makes Oscar Time a must-have each way for me (I backed him before his OK prep at Donny at 50s 5 places - still 50s with BetVic & won't run again before 11 April so could get same price for 6 places if and when they go the extra place).
Best chance on easy side of Good but stat-profile is at least Strong place potential for all going but extremes and for any likely weight-rise.
Almost certainly he won't be #1 selection - there's a number of them that are borderline ATM and the degree of any weight rise (and, in some cases, quality of remaining preps) will shift their ratings one way or another.
However, obviously, some definite positive moves yesterday..........more shortly.
A number of GN entries seem to be headed for the 21f chase at Kempton on Saturday as their final prep.
As regards weights, the participation (or not) of Many Clouds and Sam Winner are obviously highly significant (could limit a rise to 1lb or open it up to a 6lb+ rise). Crucial for many.

I'm not very good at this.....

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