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Katie Hopkins reported to the police by the Society of Black Lawyers.

lordromford
lordromford Posts: 7,783
edited April 2015 in Not Sports Related
The sight of the names of either Hopkins or the SoBL will undoubtedly cause groans amongst many of us, but it's an interesting situation.

Link: Hopkins cockroaches comments incite hatred
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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    "I hope this email finds you well".
    What kind of dumb way is that to start a formal communication? Sounds like a twelve year old writing to a great aunt to thank her for her birthday present - in about 1957!
    Look, SOBL, if he's not well he won't be at work and won't be opening the email because he'll be at home feeling crap!
    How do they expect anyone to take them seriously?
  • For such an astute name do they ever do an real work?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited April 2015

    For such an astute name do they ever do an real work?

    .
  • holyjo
    holyjo Posts: 1,326
    You may well be likely right Garrymanilow........ the sad thing is that I suspect there are many Sun readers who are more offended by the SoBL than they are Katie Hopkins
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    If all these migrants are (Black) Lawyers can't they represent themselves?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Fight freedom of speech with freedom of speech and relax press guidelines so that it's ok to call her a racist shitbag without fear of a libel suit imo - see how much trolling she does thereafter
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    SBL sounds all very official and serious, but effectively its just one guy isn't it?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    I read the Hopkins article. As usual, there was a lot of truth in what she wrote, the problem is the way in which she expresses her opinions, rabble rousing and invective which must just err on the side of legality otherwise I am sure that the Sun lawyers, who must be very watchful nowadays, would not have passed it for publication.
    The 'cockroaches' comment was used to describe the survivability, the grit and determination of many of the refugees. A backhanded compliment perhaps but an unfortunate choice of words.
    On the same page, smaller articles are published lampooning Sol Campbell for 'whiting up' and Nicola Sturgeon just for being errrr Nicola Sturgeon, so Katie is not all bad
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Given the huge circulation of these comments in the Sun and in the media generally, the propensity for racial violence against people of African descent in the UK is obvious.

    LOL what a load of old shite.

    Does this guy not have serious stuff to do or is he just as fame hungry as that old jank-bag Hopkins?
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225

    SBL sounds all very official and serious, but effectively its just one guy isn't it?

    Yes.

    One publicity whore attacking another. Both get the headlines and hits they crave.


  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Katie is an attention seeker, she thrives on publicity. If everybody ignored her and bosses didn't give her a job she would soon scuttle back from where she came from.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    The thing is that Hopkins is a joke and knows it. She plays the pantomine villain pretty well.

    SoBL are actually trying to be serious but haven't realised how much of a joke they are just yet.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037

    The thing is that Hopkins is a joke and knows it. She plays the pantomine villain pretty well.

    SoBL are actually trying to be serious but haven't realised how much of a joke they are just yet.

    The dangerous thing is that whilst Hopkins talks rubbish, she's only talking rubbish on her own behalf. The SoBL are presumably trying to represent black lawyers so when they embarrass themselves they actually embarrass an entire demographic.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,902
    dickplumb said:

    Katie is an attention seeker, she thrives on publicity. If everybody ignored her and bosses didn't give her a job she would soon scuttle back from where she came from.

    and cockroaches are good at scuttling

  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    be interseting to get the Society of White Lawyers take on all of this.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Macronate said:

    be interseting to get the Society of White Lawyers take on all of this.

    Ask them

    https://www.supremecourt.uk/about/biographies-of-the-justices.html
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    Can't stand KH but Peter Herbert is a right twerp.
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314
    Maybe the society of white lawyers can report sol Campbell for his stunt
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    edited April 2015
    Giving negative publicity to Katie Hopkins and expecting her to go away is like trying to stop a runaway steam train by shovelling more coal onto the fire. If people could stop being outraged by what an incredibly bigoted, incredibly ignorant woman has to say, that'd be great.
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    Fiiish said:

    Giving negative publicity to Katie Hopkins and expecting her to go away is like trying to stop a runaway steam train by shovelling more coal onto the fire. If people could stop being outraged by what an incredibly bigoted, incredibly ignorant woman has to say, that'd be great.

    The thing is she's not ignorant. She's very well educated and intelligent. Well educated and intelligent enough to know exactly what to say to get the Twitter masses foaming at the mouth, which for some very saddening reason is her thing. I wonder what happened in her childhood to make it that way
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    She also called them a 'virus', which I find sinister. She really is utterly repulsive.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,648

    Fiiish said:

    Giving negative publicity to Katie Hopkins and expecting her to go away is like trying to stop a runaway steam train by shovelling more coal onto the fire. If people could stop being outraged by what an incredibly bigoted, incredibly ignorant woman has to say, that'd be great.

    The thing is she's not ignorant. She's very well educated and intelligent. Well educated and intelligent enough to know exactly what to say to get the Twitter masses foaming at the mouth, which for some very saddening reason is her thing. I wonder what happened in her childhood to make it that way
    The `some saddening reason' is probably that she makes a lot of money just being controversial.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    PL54 said:

    If all these migrants are (Black) Lawyers can't they represent themselves?

    Flagtastic, thanks @vff
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998

    Fiiish said:

    Giving negative publicity to Katie Hopkins and expecting her to go away is like trying to stop a runaway steam train by shovelling more coal onto the fire. If people could stop being outraged by what an incredibly bigoted, incredibly ignorant woman has to say, that'd be great.

    The thing is she's not ignorant. She's very well educated and intelligent. Well educated and intelligent enough to know exactly what to say to get the Twitter masses foaming at the mouth, which for some very saddening reason is her thing. I wonder what happened in her childhood to make it that way
    Ignorant doesn't mean lacks intelligence, it means she has utterly no idea what these people are going through that is forcing them to flee their countries.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    If I'd written that email, my dad would slap me round the head.

    What a terrible piece of writing. Can't anyone in that "society" write a proper email?
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited April 2015
    Cockroaches in Rwanda was a term used by Hutis to describe Tutsis, who they blamed for all the ecomic ills of the country. They went on to commit genocide and slaughtered 800,000 people. The Nazis called the Jewish people rats before murdering 6 million. The tragedies and difficulties of migration is a necessary discussion. It is not helped by dehumanising language that equates people as less than animals.

    It is useful to acknowledge many people fleeing war zones are human beings. Also that they may have suffered rape, murder of their close family members. Additionally, the West has often had a hand / contributed to creating the unstable conditions / situations where these people are fleeing from.

    I have no ready easy answers + Hopkins maybe a nasty shock jock publicist but there are limits. She has definitely gone too far. She obviously not going to stop herself. The Sun also holds some responsibility for publishing such hateful bile. This is why we have law to define limits of acceptable behaviour. Imo she has breached it.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    dickplumb said:

    Katie is an attention seeker, she thrives on publicity. If everybody ignored her and bosses didn't give her a job she would soon scuttle back from where she came from.

    I used to think this, and there are probably posts by me saying the same, but now I'm not so sure. Hopkins herself is irrelevant, but she doesn't appear all over the media by chance.

    There are a few tweets by this guy on the topic, but I'll give you two





    Here's a decent blog on free speech and dehumanising language, and here's the Wiki entry on RTLMC which I would encourage everyone to read (it's short).
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Katie Hopkins is undoubtedly obnoxious at times, her recent comments on Alzheimers and Dementia sufferers being another case in point.

    However, in my view, the real tragedy is that issues that affect the common man only get any sort of airing at all in the media via her kind of sensationalism and that very sensationalism puts her "side" on the back foot from the off should any debate ensue.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    It's like 2 kids you don't like at school having a scrap. Just hope one breaks his hand knocking the other one out.