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Crossrail

Apparently they have finished 26 miles of tunnelling under London after three years of work.
Still a lot of work to be done on fitting out stations etc.
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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    As usual my other pet blog site. Some good photos if you flick back through the thread below...

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=236257&page=284
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    It is an amazing project.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    I just went back to page one on that link SJ - it's a wonder some of them can type with chips that big on their shoulders...
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    It's a great site but some of the regulars are so far up their own arses it's hilarious... hold on!
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,227
    What they saying... I haven't got time to read all 284 pages!!
  • Pelham123
    Pelham123 Posts: 379
    The route must have been planned by a taxi driver.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,317
    Username/thread interface
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,146
    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....
  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
  • Blinkant
    Blinkant Posts: 598
    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
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  • ChiAddick
    ChiAddick Posts: 1,781
    edited June 2015
    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood. Its a Shame and a missed opportunity. Abbey wood is the end of the line in zone 4. The other ends of the lines are right outside London. We always seem to lose out in the south east when it come s to transport.
  • Blinkant
    Blinkant Posts: 598
    ChiAddick said:

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood.
    Dont know then.... I always thought it was weird that Dartford doesnt accept oyster cards as well
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Didn't boris cancel having the tram line going accross South East London in favour of cross rail? Doubt they give a monkeys about South East London and Kent. No bankers live there
  • The Canary Wharf station is already open (not the platforms though).

    It's very posh, lots of poncey shops, a cinema and a very nice roof garden.

    Worth a visit if you're in or around E14.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    Did the tour of the Canary Wharf station with clients, for a charity event in April before the shops opened. Interesting stuff, although obviously not a lot to see at concourse or platform level yet. Will run up to 24 trains an hour, 12 carriages long, through there.

    As for "why stop at Abbey Wood", I suppose it'll be a bit like Woolwich Arsenal now where loads of people get off the London bound trains to switch to the DLR. Frees up space on the trains to London Bridge/Cannon St/Charing X. Also allows plenty of options to get to various parts of London now rather than just the southern most main stations.
  • Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I work for MTR Crossrail, the firm which run the trains, and I asked the same question. The answer is that running through the central section is to a very tight timetable, so its important that trains arrive from the branches on time. It was thought that the risk of trains being delayed on Network Rail's unreliable infrastructure on the North Kent Line was to great to countenance. Any future extension east of Abbey Wood depends on new dedicated track being built.

    At least the good people of Dartford and Gravesend etc will have an easy interchange at Abbey Wood, from where Crossrail trains will depart every 5 mins in the peak period.
  • Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood.
    Dont know then.... I always thought it was weird that Dartford doesnt accept oyster cards as well
    Oyster PAYG is coming to Dartford sooner than you think
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    I worked on the Plumstead to North Woolwich part of the project for 7 months

    Incredible work they are doing.
  • Maybe crossrail should be extended right through to reach the new Paramount Park in Northfleet. Direct links right through London!
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,146

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I work for MTR Crossrail, the firm which run the trains, and I asked the same question. The answer is that running through the central section is to a very tight timetable, so its important that trains arrive from the branches on time. It was thought that the risk of trains being delayed on Network Rail's unreliable infrastructure on the North Kent Line was to great to countenance. Any future extension east of Abbey Wood depends on new dedicated track being built.

    At least the good people of Dartford and Gravesend etc will have an easy interchange at Abbey Wood, from where Crossrail trains will depart every 5 mins in the peak period.
    Thanks for the answer.

    I suppose none of us who use those lines will be remotely surprised, but it's not very encouraging.

    And will Crossrail be part of the Oyster network? It may seem a silly question, but, you know, Heathrow Express....
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,852

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    Crossrail is meant to self contained rather than sharing tracks with South Eastern (so that every South Eastern cock up screws up Crossrail as well), thus it terminates at Abbey Wood. It also operates on overhead power instead of 3rd rail
  • DanDavis
    DanDavis Posts: 1,131
    Is there much work going on at Abbey Wood station in readiness for Crossrail (never thought there was much room around that station to expand?)
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,558
    DanDavis said:

    Is there much work going on at Abbey Wood station in readiness for Crossrail (never thought there was much room around that station to expand?)

    http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/former-abbey-wood-station-demolished
  • DanDavis
    DanDavis Posts: 1,131

    DanDavis said:

    Is there much work going on at Abbey Wood station in readiness for Crossrail (never thought there was much room around that station to expand?)

    http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/former-abbey-wood-station-demolished
    Oh wow, thanks for sharing.

  • Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I work for MTR Crossrail, the firm which run the trains, and I asked the same question. The answer is that running through the central section is to a very tight timetable, so its important that trains arrive from the branches on time. It was thought that the risk of trains being delayed on Network Rail's unreliable infrastructure on the North Kent Line was to great to countenance. Any future extension east of Abbey Wood depends on new dedicated track being built.

    At least the good people of Dartford and Gravesend etc will have an easy interchange at Abbey Wood, from where Crossrail trains will depart every 5 mins in the peak period.
    Thanks for the answer.

    I suppose none of us who use those lines will be remotely surprised, but it's not very encouraging.

    And will Crossrail be part of the Oyster network? It may seem a silly question, but, you know, Heathrow Express....
    Most definitely yes, including Heathrow. The Crossrail service will replace the existing Heathrow Connect.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    South East London dont exist according to TFL
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,638

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood.
    Dont know then.... I always thought it was weird that Dartford doesnt accept oyster cards as well
    Oyster PAYG is coming to Dartford sooner than you think
    When is this going to happen?
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood.
    Dont know then.... I always thought it was weird that Dartford doesnt accept oyster cards as well
    Oyster PAYG is coming to Dartford sooner than you think
    When is this going to happen?
    December 2016

    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/11475754.Commuter_joy_with_Oyster_card_set_to_come_to_Dartford_and_Swanley/
  • Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Blinkant said:

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    Might be because Dartford is not in London, and therefore, not part of TFL, who I assume are running the show.
    Neither is Reading, Maidenhead, Heathrow or Brentwood.
    Dont know then.... I always thought it was weird that Dartford doesnt accept oyster cards as well
    Oyster PAYG is coming to Dartford sooner than you think
    When is this going to happen?
    I'm hearing September
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127

    ChiAddick said:

    Just one question

    Why Abbey Wood?

    Why not Dartford? So it would connect with three lines, as opposed to one....

    I thought that. I don't think it will help the majority of people in south east London/ North West Kent.
    South East London dont exist according to TFL
    This, exactly this, we don't even get poxy Boris Bikes....