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T-Watt
Dave2l
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I hope that was a particularly rather unusual off day (we all have em) that we will never see again. I also hope his fellow players let him know how they felt about his child like selfishness of unwillingness to play a reasonable much needed simple/attacking pass at least once every now and again. Not showing himself to be much of a team player. Hated watching him tonight.
In all seriousness if you are going to play football like that, then you need to be dropped immediately until you learn and can be taken seriously again.
In all seriousness if you are going to play football like that, then you need to be dropped immediately until you learn and can be taken seriously again.
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To be fair, there was a lot of very below par performances out on the pitch tonight, not just Tony.7
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He played like an 8 year old schoolboy today who had fallen out with his mates and wouldn't pass the ball to them. How he stayed on for 90 minutes is beyond me.2
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Sluggish would be my nicest description of him tonight, there are a lot of others I would use but won't.
I think he needs either a arm around his shoulder, a to jet up his arse or his family around him a little more. Was very worried about how he carried himself tonight0 -
He did it on Saturday, always doing too much. Like that kid in primary school who knows he's decent but wants to constantly take on the whole opposition7
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No but he was the main culpritMendonca In Asdas said:To be fair, there was a lot of very below par performances out on the pitch tonight, not just Tony.
I think I'm beginning to see him for watt he is a very selfish player
We need team players at the moment
Willing to give all for the team not a showboating prima doña who sulks
Remember Ronaldo he was like that and look what happened to him!!!
Goodnight
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Thought he just played pretty much the same as Saturday. Tries to go past 3 defenders who are all on him, then trips or runs into a dead end...and then flicks it, inevitably to the opposition when - if he looked up occasionally, he could pass to someone better placed...this seems to be repeated time and time again...7
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Not happening for Tony at present but when it does he is some player. J6st needs to try things more near the opposition box rather than the middle of the park2
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Does he still have the hump with Luzon after being dropped for the QPR game?0
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I've always thought of him as bit of a 'jammy' dribbler. He would somehow find a way past players without necessarily being quicker than them, and just houdini-ing his way with the ball, and not understanding how the defender wouldn't manage to just get a nick on the ball. Either way it used to work for him so it didn't matter.
Tonight was one of those nights where it was not coming off one bit and the fact that he had easy passes on made it look worse for him each time.1 -
But does fitness have something to do with that? To me he looked slow and that's why I used the term sluggish.
I agree he gets away with what we could say are lucky bounces but he gets too many of them to be jammy, surely?0 -
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Thats what I started to think towards the end of last season - he must know what he is doing to get so many lucky bounces/deflections in his favor when he dribbles.charlton_carl said:But does fitness have something to do with that? To me he looked slow and that's why I used the term sluggish.
I agree he gets away with what we could say are lucky bounces but he gets too many of them to be jammy, surely?0 -
I was an apologist for Tony Watt last Saturday. But tonight I think he was abysmal. Totally selfish and I hope it's not him who's helping to create bad vibes in the rest of the team because tonight we just looked off with a capital O.0
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To be fair to him he has stated on Instagram that he feels the last two performances weren't good enough both personally and as a team, says they have let themselves and the fans down. Obviously some brain dead idiots then decide to abuse both him and Pope, charming some of our fans:)1
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Personally I have concerns when one of our main strikers never appears to be in the box, but always outside and then needing to dribble past three players to get a shooting chance. On top of that Makinok tonight barely seemed able to get any headed flick ons to a red shirt- I hope Im wrong but I cant see where a strong striking partnership is going to come from.3
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Stay off social media after a defeat or in general would not attract the trolls from far and wide.BowieAddick said:To be fair to him he has stated on Instagram that he feels the last two performances weren't good enough both personally and as a team, says they have let themselves and the fans down. Obviously some brain dead idiots then decide to abuse both him and Pope, charming some of our fans:)
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He's obviously not 100% fit0
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Tony Watt has the ability to run at defenders, take them on, beat them and cause panic in the defence. I hope we do not train that out of him on the back of a couple of sub standard performances. The game is already short of entertainers, we are stuffed full of workmen-like players already.15
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We got found out. At least 2 defenders on Watt and JBG.0
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Sadly the opposition Manager must watch our videos, see what Watt can do if given space and then turn to his Centre Backs and say:
"Dont give him any space, get in his face but dont foul him"
Is exactly what Rotherham and Huddersfield did against him which puts him into trouble4 -
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If that's the case, where were our free men? There was no movement off the ball and very little options to pass the ball other than backwards.Crusty54 said:We got found out. At least 2 defenders on Watt and JBG.
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TWWW is playing too deep....... It's that simple. The hero he has been up until now is just the same TWWW but playing in and around the box where he causes panic and defenders are scared to tackle. He's never been a passer of the ball and tonight I thought he tried to pass it early in the game but fluffed his lines every time (he wasn't the only one though).
People are blaming Big Mak for not finding a red shirt with the flick ons but when your strike partner is not where he's supposed to be, what can he do?
Furthermore TWWW playing deep just clogs the midfield and makes it harder to move the ball to open up their defence.
In another note, people questioning his application must have missed a number of lung busting runs back to try to retrieve the ball after losing it!9 -
Sounds like he's showing his immaturity at the moment. Perhaps JJ and Diarra will put an arm round him and have a word.3
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More worrying than his actual performance last night (which to put it bluntly was c**p) was the bickering that was going on with a lot of his team-mates, JBG in particular. As the evening wore on, you could see TW and JBG arguing with each other all the time and I'm convinced that they stopped passing to each other as the second half went on.
We never did find out what happened at the training ground that made GL drop TW for the first game of the season - did we? - and I've got a horrible feeling that unless GL can somehow get on top of this once and for all, this is not going to end well.2 -
Do worry about 'our Tone.
He is so close to being terrific but there is a nagging doubt that there is something about him that's just going to hold him back and not meet his full potential. Rumours of a big fall out with one of the coaching staff just before the start of the season looked like they had credibity when he was dropped for the start.
On Saturday i thought if Mak had started, and Watt had come on for the last half hour, we would have won the game. But its a dangerous situation to be in when a player is only at his best playing in half hour bursts when a game gets stretched and oppo defenders tire. Over 90 mins, more often than not, the oppo seem to have the measure of him. He needs to understand he has to adapt his game a little.
Everyone loves a bit of individual brilliance, but all of us who have played at any level will tell you that you don't mind at all having a selfish player in your team when he is delivering the goods and causing issues for the opposition. When he isn't, and your passes or supporting runs are being wasted, then you have a big problem that can cause resentment in a team.
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Towards the end of second half, Watt did start passing to JBG. I think he realised that the crowd weren't happy with him trying to beat the world.Fortune 82nd Minute said:More worrying than his actual performance last night (which to put it bluntly was c**p) was the bickering that was going on with a lot of his team-mates, JBG in particular. As the evening wore on, you could see TW and JBG arguing with each other all the time and I'm convinced that they stopped passing to each other as the second half went on.
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Also, he did seem to have three men on him as soon as he picked up the ball. I think he has lots of talent and will score goals for us but when he is that deep and has three men on him he is going to be less effective.
However, I always get the feeling that 'next time' he gets the ball he will make something happen. That is the case tieh mercurial talents. They can seem to be unable to do anything right for 85 minutes then suddenly it clicks and they sneak past three players and score or set up someone else to do so.
I would have taken him off when Vetokele came on though. I wasn't aware that Mig Mak has a hamstring problem.1 -
I'd drop him on Saturday.0
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He tried to pass to JBG in the first half too but got it wrong a couple of times. They were fine with each other in the first half (I was watching that bit quite closely). Taxi-Lad is right....Tony Watt is playing just a little bit too deep most of the time (occasionally is ok). But with little penetration out wide, the ball isn't spending much time in the penalty area...which is one of the reasons he keeps coming back to get involved.guinnessaddick said:
Towards the end of second half, Watt did start passing to JBG. I think he realised that the crowd weren't happy with him trying to beat the world.Fortune 82nd Minute said:More worrying than his actual performance last night (which to put it bluntly was c**p) was the bickering that was going on with a lot of his team-mates, JBG in particular. As the evening wore on, you could see TW and JBG arguing with each other all the time and I'm convinced that they stopped passing to each other as the second half went on.
If he stayed up front for the whole game, he would probably be accused of not working hard enough. So, he just has to find the balance between the two.
He's just had two frustrating games but there were still moments that nearly came off for him.
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For who though...RugbyAddick said:I'd drop him on Saturday.
- Ahearne-Grant (Many will say he's not ready)
- Vetokele (The general opinion is that he's not fit and that he's too interested in his Missus at the moment)
- McAnley (He's unfairly been awarded the new Sponge-Foot tag)
- Kennedy (See Ahearne-Grant)
- Gudmundsson (Who do you play on the Right?)0
