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A proportionate protest - Charlton v Ipswich *Stand Up For The 2%*
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A number of snide and unnecessary comments about not representing proper Charlton fans. Although, I have to say that "2%? Is that the amount of brain cells you're using?" was quite inventive.Atletico Addick said:
Such as what?Callumcafc said:Had some proper nasty comments as I was on Floyd Rd handing out posters but it seemed generally well received. :-)
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Reza's on the pitch right now doing timed pitch long sprints. FACT
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And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.
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Cool, don't think you get the point I'm making, probably my fault.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.2 -
KM is a disgrace and I want her to feel embarrassed and I want her to crack and resign... in terms of boycott the crowds will contin ue to drop as we get thumped each week and slowly slip into league one...
RD has made a huge ricket and can't business his way out of it...
well done everyone for making a very clear protest...
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Welcome back to Charlton Life btw.CAFCfanforlife said:Did the protest happen? If so it was pretty poor in my opinion, not sure it really had any impact other than to show it really was only 2% that have a problem....which I'm still not entirely sure what it is? Come on Charlton!
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Probably my fault to be fair to you SE9. Just very frustrated at seeing what's happening and what the fans still attending are having to endure. They (the board) don't deserve their support.se9addick said:
Cool, don't think you get the point I'm making, probably my fault.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.0 -
I feel you brother.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Probably my fault to be fair to you SE9. Just very frustrated at seeing what's happening and what the fans still attending are having to endure. They (the board) don't deserve their support.se9addick said:
Cool, don't think you get the point I'm making, probably my fault.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.1 -
According to whom, though? Katrien? Bollocks does he sit through that each week.razil said:
Apprently he does on a live feed , regardless this game is a high profile live tv even they will not be happy about itFumbluff said:
He doesn't watch all the games, he doesn't care about the results, he's just mugging us offrazil said:He watches all the games, money is where it hurts plus publicity from demos. Unless you're gonna ask for a refund it won't hit the pocket until next summer
And if he does then he's even more inept than we thought as he's seen our problems and short comings first hand.9 - Sponsored links:
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it was a start.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.3 -
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Agreed and I don't mean to criticise anyone involved in it whatsoever. Just think more drastic action is required to elicit any real meaningful change unfortunately.Baldybonce said:
it was a start.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.0 -
well done all that showed and well done to the 5/6 players who in the true spirit of solidarity with drew their labour on the pitch today---great to see we are all in this together14
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It can't happen overnight @RodneyCharltonTrotta.5
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Early beers are bad1
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Who the fuck is anyone to tell me to find another club. I was at Derby, MK and Birmingham away and have a season ticket and get told to support this or find another club. I'm not even blaming the result on the protest but I'll say it again, it doesn't help he team.4
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Do you work in the club shop?THEMCA said:Who the fuck is anyone to tell me to find another club. I was at Derby, MK and Birmingham away and have a season ticket and get told to support this or find another club. I'm not even blaming the result on the protest but I'll say it again, it doesn't help he team.
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RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Not if you wear a black & white scarf it doesn't5 -
Made the point of trying to be friendly and courteous giving out leaflets and explaining. Still got a couple of 'f*** off' and 'f*** your protests' which I suspect is easy directing at me but would have been entertaining directing to someone like @Cardinal Sin.
Best retort I got was 'no thank you. I know about football and you don't'.
98% were supportive though.
Really is alarming watching the crowd filter through for 90 mins realising just how old our support is (no offence to anyone).
Personally I feel the club is dying on its arse and that the very small level of U30s we have going will continue to drift away. Once the older numbers go, we won't be replacing in anywhere near the same numbers.34 -
I got a few comments but nothing nasty or abusive but I was surprised at the number who said no thanks and were happy at the way things are going. How can you be happy? Two years on and we are really no better off, ok you might not want to protest, but happy?
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Doesn't it depend on who the protest was aimed at rather? We don't and never will have the numbers involved to make the back pages and be the lead story on Skysports News and apply pressure that way.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.
This was a very targeted protest aimed at highlighting the falsity of a specific point of view put forward by KM. And on that basis it very much worked. Roland may or may not give a monkey's but one thing he cannot do is sit there in his hollowed out volcano and be still under the impression that only a tiny minority of fans are unhappy with the way the club is currently being ran.
Think guerilla warfare rather than a charge over the top.
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As i understand it, the aim of this protest was to draw attention to the fact that there's a large number of fans that are unhappy at how the clubs being managed.
No one can say this wasn't a success, The SKY commentators seemed to know exactly what's happening at our club and why we're unhappy. He told everyone watching and best of all the protest was completely peaceful and we didn't embarrass ourselves.
Well done to everyone involved! A lot of credit needs to be given to the lad(Joe?) that arranged it.
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Those who didn't feel like supporting the protest have one major factor in their favour. Just like I don't like AFKA's observation that our fan base is so old, I have to accept it's true. By the same token I have to accept that some fans are not prepared to join the protest because they ask if not Roland then who, where is the money coming from?
And they have a point, Roland is bankrolling this runaway train.
I had more than one serious conversation today with other fans who fantasise about winning Euromillions and taking over. That is how desperate it all is.
The scientific measure of it all will be in the vast swathes of empty seats as support of all ages simply gives up. Target 20,000 might have to be target 2000 soon enough.13 -
Well done all those giving out posters. Protest in 2nd minute had most participating. I have supported CAFC for over 50 years. It shows the heart has been torn out of the club, as I did not really care with any passion about the result.
RD & KM hurry up and GO.8 -
He sold SL though.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Precisely ,....and how better a message than boycott? KM will be on the blower later "Yeah a fair few held up some posters in the second minute but still cheered the team on and clapped them off so Operation clusterfuck is still well on track my dear leader as the mugs will still turn up next game."razil said:Dont agree, message needs to reach Roland
A few tame protests will make fuck all difference to Roland....a bloke who won't even afford fans the courtesy of attending to see his experiment going pear shaped. Liege fans stormed his office and it didn't make a jot of difference.
Dialogue via the Trust and tame protests will not make any difference. If you are genuinely unhappy with the strategy and running of the club then boycott home games.... nothing else with have any meaningful impact and we'll continue to slide.3 -
A large number of people just won't care that much, they go, watch the game and leave.LargeAddick said:I got a few comments but nothing nasty or abusive but I was surprised at the number who said no thanks and were happy at the way things are going. How can you be happy? Two years on and we are really no better off, ok you might not want to protest, but happy?
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The protest hasn't been forgotten though, it still being discussed.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
And it was forgotten about and not mentioned by the 3rd minute. If those protesting hadn't turned up that's a 90 minute protest that is much more impacting and meaningful as the club knows how hard it is to stay away for fans so would speak volumes and they may actually address things.se9addick said:
But lots of people who went to the game today managed to show their disapproval...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well it certainly doesn't equal dissaprovalse9addick said:
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being runRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.se9addick said:
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.razil said:STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Today's protest could occur at every match for the rest of the season and will make very little difference unfortunately despite the commendable and admirable best efforts of those involved.
It has been picked up by the media. It will continue as long a fans are willing to act.
Whose talking about your personal boycott? Have the media interviewed you? Has KM mentioned your boycott?
No? Well of course not because it is invisable to everyone. The club don't know if you are boycotting or just not coming. If they do know that isn't embarrassing them in public. Other fans cant see it like they can the black and white scarves.
The CEO isn't being giving leaflets in the streets about your person boycott and won't have to respond as she did in today's programme.
That's not digging you out as any genuine boycott where someone is choosing not to come when otherwise they would be attending is laudable but by its nature it is invisable.
Spell It Out is just 6 weeks old. It is not perfect, it won't please everyone as I said at the very beginning but it is something.
It might be that there will need to be more actions, more protests, different avenues of attack and one of those could be a walk out or a boycott but why go for the nuclear option from day one.
Joe @ Addickted2TheReds has done a great job and a lot of fans stepped up to leaflet today. Well done to everyone who helped in whatever way. They are the true spirit of Charlton.
The fight goes on. Nothing has been won yet. The CEO has to deliver on the promises she made as a result of Spell It Out and the car park protests. The CEO has to do a lot more and a lot better so keep the pressure up.
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