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New SLP Articles: Roland didn't tell Powell to pick players & FFP changes are a disaster

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  • So who has lied here? RD or Powell? Hmmm, let me think for a moment about who is the most believable.

    Plus really good to hear about the £1M spent on the pitch. Two years after buying us and still bleating on about it as though this is significant.

    Any cost was factored into the purchase price as if the work had not been done we would not have fulfilled any fixtures and the fines would have out weighed the cost!

    On yer bike, RD.
  • This week's instalments should at least give the protesters some decent soundbites and some ammunition. Shows a strategy full of holes, a lack of understanding about football in general and very clear double standards.

    The very sad thing is that they view community engagement as getting a transient group through the doors, in numbers, every week. To spend money. They don't view community engagement as it should be, and the very successful model with which Charlton has been synonymous.

    I do think the he said/he said thing with Powell is a red herring. Even if it is proved either way, it's a lose lose situation and won't unsack him, or change our current plight. We all have our views and won't agree. Focus on the now.
  • seth plum said:

    So.
    If an email exists telling Powell who to play at Sheffield United for example, I wonder what Roland would say then.

    You say that as if you know there was an email sent ?
  • Rob62
    Rob62 Posts: 1,200
    edited February 2016

    seth plum said:

    So.
    If an email exists telling Powell who to play at Sheffield United for example, I wonder what Roland would say then.

    You say that as if you know there was an email sent ?
    There was.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    comes across as a lying twat, but his point on FFP is a valid one.

    It is a fair point that he thought FFP would mean other clubs couldn't spend more than they earn and that would help us.

    But when the FFP rules changed Roland made no attempt to change his business plan. He can't just go on as he did before and moan that it's not fair.

    He bought the wrong club.
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,452
    edited February 2016
    Rolly, we come to Charlton to support our proud and historic football club. We all have our communities in the areas where we live. You want to change The Valley into a community centre.

    Please pick up your ball and go away. Find a community who will appreciate your kind of madness and where your ego can flourish.

    Clue:
    All the seats face the pitch - that's not by accident.
  • “Definitely not [a local businessman who would buy the club next]. Varney’s choice would be a Chinese or Qatari guy. I’m quite sure it would not be an English person..."

    I doubt any Charlton fan is anti foreign ownership, but I'll stick my neck out and say that the vast majority are 100% against owners who don't understand football and don't even try to understand football, all the while lurking in a bunker somewhere and occasionally emerging to mumble UTTER BOLLOCKS
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    How about an interview with Jiminez. I'm interested as to how he was still involved?
  • Rob62 said:

    seth plum said:

    So.
    If an email exists telling Powell who to play at Sheffield United for example, I wonder what Roland would say then.

    You say that as if you know there was an email sent ?
    There was.
    Thanks
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    Agreed Henry and there is no sign of him changing his business plan. Just him hoping the ffp rules change. And kermogant wanting to leave? Is that not a complete lie?
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  • How about an interview with Jiminez. I'm interested as to how he was still involved?

    I think it's when the club was first sold at a meeting. Powell has referenced it a few times.
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,335
    Why oh why are there still fans that want him to stay on or to try and sit with him to change his ways?

  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,335

    Agreed Henry and there is no sign of him changing his business plan. Just him hoping the ffp rules change. And kermogant wanting to leave? Is that not a complete lie?

    If FFP was in place would that really mean Charlton under these clowns would be competitive? Unlikely
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    kentred2 said:

    Why oh why are there still fans that want him to stay on or to try and sit with him to change his ways?

    Pointless. He will never change and neither will we.

  • seth plum said:

    So.
    If an email exists telling Powell who to play at Sheffield United for example, I wonder what Roland would say then.

    "Huh?"
  • I believe Powell is a truthful man. We have known him for years. As for the others - well....
  • Sounds to me like he is having second thoughts about staying involved. I cannot see him wanting to stick around if we get relegated.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476

    Sounds to me like he is having second thoughts about staying involved. I cannot see him wanting to stick around if we get relegated.

    Always a silver lining to every cloud.
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134



    He said: “The main goal is that the fans and people see this as a place where they can have a great time - meet friends, enjoy the game, watch good football and see youngsters perform well.

    The question is what kind of football do you need? I think at the minimum Championship level. That’s what we definitely need.

    A bit dramatic maybe but these words just make me want to cry-it's just repeating the Dublin stuff. No ambition whatsoever to achieve anything on the pitch-I don't expect us to be ripping the league apart but surely we should be able to dream a little shouldn't we?Also I can meet my mates down the pub and watch good Premier League football on the TV and have a jolly nice time.

    And Roland, about the only part of the above which you are actually achieving now is that we're seeing the odd good performance from youngsters and occasionally seeing mates when they bother to turn up. Other than that you're doing terribly you cock.

    All this minimum Championship and Premiership ambition just shows what mugs they take us for.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited February 2016

    This week's instalments should at least give the protesters some decent soundbites and some ammunition. Shows a strategy full of holes, a lack of understanding about football in general and very clear double standards.

    The very sad thing is that they view community engagement as getting a transient group through the doors, in numbers, every week. To spend money. They don't view community engagement as it should be, and the very successful model with which Charlton has been synonymous.

    I do think the he said/he said thing with Powell is a red herring. Even if it is proved either way, it's a lose lose situation and won't unsack him, or change our current plight. We all have our views and won't agree. Focus on the now.

    I don't think that issue is about Powell at this stage. It's about backseat driving in general and the influence someone like Meire, for example, still has on the football side now. It's also about truthfulness and integrity.
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  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    Can we use the CARD money to sort out a hit man?
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Any businessman who has a plan and then finds the plan they had is now out of date due to changes in either legislation or other outside influences that will have a 'major' impact on that said plan, would by nature have a to change it to survive in a competitive market, especially if the 'change' gives fundamental advantage to the competitors. RD clearly is no astute businessman!!
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    comes across as a lying twat, but his point on FFP is a valid one.

    It is a fair point that he thought FFP would mean other clubs couldn't spend more than they earn and that would help us.

    But when the FFP rules changed Roland made no attempt to change his business plan. He can't just go on as he did before and moan that it's not fair.

    He bought the wrong club.
    I'm in two minds about FFP. On the one hand it's nice for us fans if there's a level playing field, it gives us lesser mortals a scintilla of hope.

    On the other hand - and let's use the restaurant analogy (again):

    One restaurant owner spends a fortune making his restaurant a very pleasant place to be; opens 7 days a week so that people can ring in to book a table; stocks up his cellar with the best wine; buys the best local produce; employs a Michelin-starred chef; top quality waiters; a qualified Sommelier; a Maître d' that knows what the hell they are doing; and has a maximum score under the local council's food hygenine scheme and the all-important linen tablecloths and napkins.

    Another has a great venue. But he spends no money on decent food and drink; no one ever answers the phone or looks at emails; the chef is just out of college; the waiters don't speak English and don't even unscrew the top off the wine, let alone let it breathe or decant it; the food is so-so; the Maître d' used to be a paralegal and has no relevant skills; the table cloths are plastic while the napkins are paper serviettes and there are mouse droppings everywhere.

    Which one deserves (and will) succeed?
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    Begs the question who selected the head coaches, if he left the management of the club to KM, or is it just another lie?
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  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    colin1961 said:

    cabbles said:

    “I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.

    First line and a lie

    “I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.

    Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.

    This guy is just a tosser, through and through.

    We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals

    Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
    Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Rolands pants are on fire.
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134
    Was it this Alex Dyer interview you meant Colin:

    https://chicagoaddick.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/alex-dyer-tells-all/

    Another bloody liar!
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    edited February 2016
    colin1961 said:

    cabbles said:

    “I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.

    First line and a lie

    “I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.

    Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.

    This guy is just a tosser, through and through.

    We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals

    Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
    A thought provoking interlude. Now back to reality...