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Military coup in Turkey?

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  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,371
    ValleyGary said:

    That's going to be interesting, their PM might be out gunned since he appears to be up against the military.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    Seeking asylum in Germany...
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    The FaceTime message from Erdogan was surreal
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    IA said:

    It's reported that Erdoğan was on holiday in Bodrum and now may or may not have left the country.

    Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.

    No. He is on his way back to Istanbul apparently. This has the potential to get very messy indeed!
  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,280
    Major implications regionally and especially in terms of Iraq and Syria. If the coup is successful I would expext major Turkish incursions into both.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    edited July 2016
    flyingkiwiDK said:

    IA said:

    It's reported that Erdoğan was on holiday in Bodrum and now may or may not have left the country.

    Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.

    No. He is on his way back to Istanbul apparently. This has the potential to get very messy indeed!
    He's still face timing from a hotel room. Sky News reporting he's already planning his escape and asylum somewhere.

    He's calling for the public to take to the streets. Desperate.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    On FaceTime on another channel in front of a house. May be his house in Istanbul or may be any other house in the world.

    Has he applied for asylum in Germany? Has the application been rejected?

    Very confusing. Very worrying. Can't see any good coming from this
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )

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  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    ValleyGary said:

    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.

    Seen tweets saying the exact opposite as well:



  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,898
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    Off_it said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    Incredible. Public stopping a tank:

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,898
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,898
    WSS said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.

    Seen tweets saying the exact opposite as well:



    I predict a riot. I predict a riot.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
    image
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    NBC reporting that President Erdogan's asylum request has been rejected by the Germans, he is thought to be flying to London
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    The military has moved against Erdogan then.

    This looks very odd to me.

    There's probably more to come on this. Proximity of action to the French attacks could be incidental.

    My tin hat order arrives soon.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    edited July 2016
    theeenorth said:

    Major implications regionally and especially in terms of Iraq and Syria. If the coup is successful I would expext major Turkish incursions into both.

    I'm not sure that I'd agree. While the military could very easily move across their border, it's equally likely that there will be a reduction of Turkish activity.

    For example, Erdogan's government has been very keen on supporting a range of rebel groups in Syria (some/many of which are not a million miles away from Nusrah/ISIS in ideology), the military may wish to pull back from this position. Though, in fairness, Turkish forces are already in Iraq, on a "training" mission, and they guard a mausoleum in Syria (there are allegations of Special Forces with rebel groups.

    In addition, the military have been sucked back into a counter-terrorist conflict against the Kurds, in a conflict that has largely been restarted because of Erdogan's need to regain political supremacy in the face of a concerted challenge in the last few years, with the growth of the HDP (he had taken for granted support for the AKP).

    I could see a situation where both military and PKK (depending on personnel) could take a step back; with the military concentrating instead on sealing the border to ISIS.

    However, the coup has a long way to go before it succeeds...

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,369
    It's heading this way... thanks fuck for rigid and secure border contro...l...s... oh fuck!!!
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    edited July 2016
    I don't think the Nice attack has any connection to this.

    John Kerry hasn't exactly stood up for the Erdogan government. Speaking from Moscow, he hopes for "peace and stability". I've read that in Egypt, the Obama administration didn't condemn the coup and instead publicly supported "democracy", which turned out to be the military dictatorship.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    No one seems to know what is really happening right now or how it will work out. Difficult time for turkey.

    No problem though because Boris will be able to provide valuable guidance as foreign minister.
  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    Watching some crazy scenes on tv at moment of people trying to break through the barricades on the Bosphorus bridge and getting shot at by soldiers. They seem to be trying to get a bus through now.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,898
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
    image
    You searched that out just for me? Bless.
    Xx
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,642
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    Should you actually be allowed to post on this serious thread you cretin.

  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Can anyone provide a brief and succinct reason as to why this is happening?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    I have no idea really what is happening so no i couldn't say why.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    Major health warning on anything from Turkish media is that Erdogan has gutted the opposition media there so most of them will be pro-Erdogan anyway.

    However, from videos of Ankara and Istanbul shared on social media, it appears that this coup will not succeed. If he returns, Erdogan will likely become more autocratic than before.

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