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What's the most conventionally-outrageous opinion you hold?

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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Greenie said:

    That Child benefit should be abolished, you want kids, you pay for them.

    Unfortunately there are far too many arsehole 'fathers' in this world for that to ever work
    Then they should be put up against a wall and shot.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Religious people can't park their cars very well
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    That their is a correlation between being boring and not having the social skills the realise that the person you are talking to is bored, and facial hair
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,594
    McBobbin said:

    Religious people can't park their cars very well

    Like my wife. She always shouts out "oh god" when trying to park.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Millwall

    you should only be allowed to vote if either in current tax paying employment or if you have racked up a certain amount of tax paying worker "voter credits" over the years.

    (that would only be for those able to work and there would be exceptions for certain people, carers etc)

    No representation without taxation. The Americans are already tip toeing around this. I can see it being a reality within 10 years.
  • Millwall

    you should only be allowed to vote if either in current tax paying employment or if you have racked up a certain amount of tax paying worker "voter credits" over the years.

    (that would only be for those able to work and there would be exceptions for certain people, carers etc)

    No representation without taxation. The Americans are already tip toeing around this. I can see it being a reality within 10 years.
    Probably the only way to deal with the 'Welfare State'. As soon as they are not allowed to vote the Politicians will grow the backbone to stop paying them to sit at home smoking dope and watching Jeremy Kyle.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    edited September 2016

    Millwall

    you should only be allowed to vote if either in current tax paying employment or if you have racked up a certain amount of tax paying worker "voter credits" over the years.

    (that would only be for those able to work and there would be exceptions for certain people, carers etc)

    No representation without taxation. The Americans are already tip toeing around this. I can see it being a reality within 10 years.
    Do they get to opt out of VAT then? Everyone pays tax. I'm as right wing as the best of them but everyone pays tax. The money that's given to the feckless is just spent in the local economies generally so is just a reinjection into local economies

    Having said that you could almost guarantee an election win by saying you would increase pensions 20%, job seekers benefit 20%, and cut prison sentences 20%, and maybe if you need to guarantee the votes of idiots, increase inheritance tax 20%. Done.
  • Greenie said:

    That Child benefit should be abolished, you want kids, you pay for them.

    Couple of quick questions, if I may?

    How old are your children now?

    How much of the Child Benefit that you received did you give back?

    "Pull the ladder up Jack!"
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    edited September 2016

    Greenie said:

    That Child benefit should be abolished, you want kids, you pay for them.

    Couple of quick questions, if I may?

    How old are your children now?

    How much of the Child Benefit that you received did you give back?

    "Pull the ladder up Jack!"
    My parents claimed it, because they could. The government taxed the shit out of my dad, well into 6 figures in terms of salary, I think they deserved the few quid a week back they got, in fact I believe it was one of the founding principles of the welfare state. Universality vs means testing, specifically to prevent those paying for it resenting it. Having said that, my dad at 57 has early onset dementia and has just gone into a care home full time. The care home fees will slowly financially cripple my family over the next few years, and I do mean completely financially cripple, at £1,200 a week until they are "lucky" enough to be below the means testing threshold of something like £20k in non main house assets.

    So add to my list of "controversial opinions" we completely fuck over the people who pay for all the handouts given to lazy pricks who do nothing all day, and even those who do stuff, but don't earn "enough." Although I agree with things like Tax Credits, you have to give something back to those who basically fund the whole system.

    To misquote Mr Bevan "Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised (unless they have a few quid)."

    I've gone off the point a bit, but awarding you for shagging someone is ridiculous, the state seeks to reward the feckless and slap the hard working at every turn, unless it decides it is slapping everyone.
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,490

    Millwall

    you should only be allowed to vote if either in current tax paying employment or if you have racked up a certain amount of tax paying worker "voter credits" over the years.

    (that would only be for those able to work and there would be exceptions for certain people, carers etc)

    No representation without taxation. The Americans are already tip toeing around this. I can see it being a reality within 10 years.
    Probably the only way to deal with the 'Welfare State'. As soon as they are not allowed to vote the Politicians will grow the backbone to stop paying them to sit at home smoking dope and watching Jeremy Kyle.
    Be fair. Not all pensioners watch Kyle.

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  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    I believe religion will come to be seen in a similar way to witchcraft is now
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Greenie said:

    That Child benefit should be abolished, you want kids, you pay for them.

    Couple of quick questions, if I may? No you may not.

    How old are your children now?

    How much of the Child Benefit that you received did you give back?

    "Pull the ladder up Jack!"
    The rest of your post is redundant.
  • Supporting England when I'm half Scottish and live in Glasgow.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,195

    Millwall

    you should only be allowed to vote if either in current tax paying employment or if you have racked up a certain amount of tax paying worker "voter credits" over the years.

    (that would only be for those able to work and there would be exceptions for certain people, carers etc)

    No representation without taxation. The Americans are already tip toeing around this. I can see it being a reality within 10 years.
    Bad idea IMO. Allows the tax-dodger to feel justified in their actions, if they are not bothered about voting (& there will be plenty who'd be happy to lose that right, I'm sorry to say)
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491

    Supporting England when I'm half Scottish and live in Glasgow.

    outrageous!
  • Greenie said:

    Greenie said:

    That Child benefit should be abolished, you want kids, you pay for them.

    Couple of quick questions, if I may? No you may not.

    How old are your children now?

    How much of the Child Benefit that you received did you give back?

    "Pull the ladder up Jack!"
    The rest of your post is redundant.
    Except that it makes it look more likely that the last line is appropriate. I'm indifferent about Child Benefit - I get some for my son but it's a fraction of the Tax I pay but I just think it's hypocritical for people to change the rules when they have finished qualifying for the benefit.

    If you have young children and this change would affect you as much as others then I apologise, unreservedly, but if your children have all grown up and you took the money but think that the next generation shouldn't get it then that is a little harsh, in my view.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Dogs are disgusting.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    The State should not pay a pension to people purely because they have reached a certain age.

    If people are unable to work because they are too sick, they should receive disability living allowance (or similar). If they are unable to find work despite being able and willing to work, they should receive jobseeker's allowance (or similar). Conditions for the above (proof of disability/applying for jobs) should be basically the same for all persons, regardless of age.
  • Abolish winter fuel allowance and replace with two one size fits all jumpers, that can be up cycled when no longer needed
    Abolish freedom passes and replace with stout walking boots, that can be up cycled when no longer needed.
    Abolish free tv licenses and replace with a library card.
    Abolish free prescriptions and replace with kind words and coloured sweets.
    Abolish single person council tax discount and rehouse single people together.

    Generally make life harder for the generation that has made my sons generation lives harder, with their well thought out votes earlier this summer.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    95% of the population are genuinely too stupid and ill-informed to be allowed to have the vote.
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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    I don't get why people are so hung up on child benefit/ benefit cheats. Sure, it's shitty when people who don't deserve it get free hand outs, but the good far outweighs the bad. And the bad is barely a drop in the ocean of the government budget. So what's with the outrage?

  • The Millers in Bexley village is full of absolute sorts
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    jams said:

    I believe religion will come to be seen in a similar way to witchcraft is now

    I truly believe mankind will not move on in any significant way until religion is seen as such.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    JiMMy 85 said:

    jams said:

    I believe religion will come to be seen in a similar way to witchcraft is now

    I truly believe mankind will not move on in any significant way until dog ownership is seen as such.
    Fixed
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Trump will be President.
  • Fiiish said:

    95% of the population brexiteers are genuinely too stupid and ill-informed to be allowed to have the vote.

    Fixed it for you...
  • A written apology should be sent to PL54 immediately along with a cheque to entice him back on here. He's a top fella
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,594
    Uboat said:

    Dogs are disgusting.

    They're ok if you cook them properly.
  • Libido is the single biggest inhibitor to mankind's intellectual and material advancement.



    (Oh, 'ang on, I've spotted a flaw)