Evans Conviction overturned (ed. signs for Chesterfield)
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You shouldcafc4life said:
indeed he did, but that happens regularly throughout the country daily and both ways.It doesnt make it right but i wouldnt call him a scummy cunt for just doing thatForeverAddickted said:
I guess the fact still remains that he cheated on his Girlfriendcafc4life said:
why?cafcdave123 said:i would just like to point out that he is still a scummy cunt!
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man with girlfriend turns up uninvited to a hotel room to stir his mates porridge and opens the curtains for his mates to film it.cafc4life said:
why?cafcdave123 said:i would just like to point out that he is still a scummy cunt!
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woah lets slow down!...cafcdave123 said:i would just like to point out that he is still a scummy cunt!
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Luckily for him the football fan 'family' will accept this and it will never be mentioned on the terraces again.5
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Might wanna unfix this oneSDAddick said:
Fixed that for youcafcnick1992 said:Top striker at this level. Jessica Ennis
whingingnot wanting her club to employ a convicted rapist because it sends a disgusting message about what footballers can get away with, especially when it comes to violence against women has cost United agood strikerconvicted rapist2 -
So will he be able to sue Sheffield United for cancelling his contract?0
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i doubt it, they stood by him until he was convicted and he was convicted. SU had no way of knowing that he would pay a family friend £50k to come forward at the retrial.SantaClaus said:So will he be able to sue Sheffield United for cancelling his contract?
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Whoh there, lets not get carried away.....................they are coming good.SantaClaus said:So will he be able to sue Sheffield United for cancelling his contract?
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Unless you sat through the case it's hard to comment - rape cases are notoriously difficult to prove.
Unsavoury case for all concerned.4 -
Genuinely pleased with this as I always thought he had been wrongly convicted anyway.
Would love to know what all the people on here who claimed he was guilty just because a court of law said so (regardless of evidence to the contrary) think now. Do they stick by their guns and admit that a jury's decision is not always the correct one? Or change their opinion becaude a different 12 jurors returned a different verdict?5 - Sponsored links:
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Well, I'd like to take this opportunity to retract (most of) my opinions towards Ched Evans. He's still a bit of a poo (cheated on his gf with a drunk yet still able to consent woman), but the courts have found he is not a rapist and fair enough.
It's a shame that this will undoubtedly continue to haunt his career, too.0 -
He's an innocent man.6
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A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Agreed.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Charlton Life doesn't work like thatJaShea99 said:Genuinely pleased with this as I always thought he had been wrongly convicted anyway.
Would love to know what all the people on here who claimed he was guilty just because a court of law said so (regardless of evidence to the contrary) think now. Do they stick by their guns and admit that a jury's decision is not always the correct one? Or change their opinion becaude a different 12 jurors returned a different verdict?
Seenewyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Fresh evidence I think - and we can debate for ever how/why it only came to light 2nd time round. And yes, it's valid to change your opinion when the facts change. I was surprised he was convicted 1st time round but without being there in court why shouldn't you 'accept' the (original) jury's verdict. (that didn't mean HE had to of course)JaShea99 said:Genuinely pleased with this as I always thought he had been wrongly convicted anyway.
Would love to know what all the people on here who claimed he was guilty just because a court of law said so (regardless of evidence to the contrary) think now. Do they stick by their guns and admit that a jury's decision is not always the correct one? Or change their opinion becaude a different 12 jurors returned a different verdict?0 -
There is something incredibly distasteful about offering financial incentives to witnesses to come forward after the original trial, who thus have the benefit of knowing what the defence of the accused was based upon and can thus tailor their statements accordingly.13
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Actually that is the perfect description of why he is innocent.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Haha. Unbelievable. Less than an hour after the 'not guilty' verdict was delivered.Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:
Charlton Life doesn't work like thatJaShea99 said:Genuinely pleased with this as I always thought he had been wrongly convicted anyway.
Would love to know what all the people on here who claimed he was guilty just because a court of law said so (regardless of evidence to the contrary) think now. Do they stick by their guns and admit that a jury's decision is not always the correct one? Or change their opinion becaude a different 12 jurors returned a different verdict?
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A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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No it isn't - not guilty does not mean innocent.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Actually that is the perfect description of why he is innocent.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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whilst i actually agree with you, in this country you ARE Innocent until proven guiltynewyorkaddick said:
No it isn't - not guilty does not mean innocent.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Actually that is the perfect description of why he is innocent.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Because the case file was online for anyone to read. Not saying therefore that everyone should have read it and then agreed he was innocent, but that's one reason why you shouldn't.redlanered said:
Fresh evidence I think - and we can debate for ever how/why it only came to light 2nd time round. And yes, it's valid to change your opinion when the facts change. I was surprised he was convicted 1st time round but without being there in court why shouldn't you 'accept' the (original) jury's verdict. (that didn't mean HE had to of course)JaShea99 said:Genuinely pleased with this as I always thought he had been wrongly convicted anyway.
Would love to know what all the people on here who claimed he was guilty just because a court of law said so (regardless of evidence to the contrary) think now. Do they stick by their guns and admit that a jury's decision is not always the correct one? Or change their opinion becaude a different 12 jurors returned a different verdict?
Another is that while it's nice to have a child like view of baddies going to jail and goodies not going to jail, we know full well that it doesn't necessarily work like that and innocent people get locked up all the time.0 -
Dear oh dear. Using that logic. Finding him guilty the 1st time doesn't make him guilty of the crime either!!newyorkaddick said:
No it isn't - not guilty does not mean innocent.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Actually that is the perfect description of why he is innocent.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
I have to laugh at this forum sometimes. When he was originally found guilty, people said "he's guilty because a court of law said so".
Now he's been found not guilty in a court of law, "well, it still doesn't mean he was innocent"
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Just like OJ Simpson is not guilty1
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Innocent until proven guilty my friend.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
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Why are (mainly) men screaming on twitter that she should be locked up for lying?
I thought the re-trial was about whether she was sober enough to consent? Sorry if I got that wrong. I haven't been following it as stories like that make my stomach turn.6 -
The judge allowed the defence to call two of her ex partners to go over her previous behaviour. No wonder women don't report14
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Presumably just 'locker room' banter.Curb_It said:Why are (mainly) men screaming on twitter that she should be locked up for lying?
I thought the re-trial was about whether she was sober enough to consent? Sorry if I got that wrong. I haven't been following it as stories like that make my stomach turn.1 -
So what was the evidence that this jury found him not guilty of?
How many cases are they, that if a different jury oversaw, would have a different result?0 -
Only in the eyes of the law. You cannot be punished by the state unless you are proved beyond reasonable doubt to be guilty. That does not mean you are innocent. Because the burden of proof is with the prosecution our system guarantees that a significant number of guilty people will be found not guilty.cafcdave123 said:
whilst i actually agree with you, in this country you ARE Innocent until proven guiltynewyorkaddick said:
No it isn't - not guilty does not mean innocent.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
Actually that is the perfect description of why he is innocent.newyorkaddick said:
A court hasn't been able to prove his guilt - doesn't make him innocentRugbyAddick said:He's an innocent man.
The phrase "innocent until proven guilty" is not really accurate. It really means "not guilty until proven guilty" but regrettably for us legal pedants, that's not as catchy/
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