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Will Trump become President?

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,527
    I am seriously worried now. I hate 2016.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,527
    Suddenly my Facebook feed is full of football posts. Think Zuckerberg is messing with the algorithms.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Trump's gonna win...
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    Weegie Addick said:

    Suddenly my Facebook feed is full of football posts. Think Zuckerberg is messing with the algorithms.

    Google must be annoyed as well. All this extra work fiddling with the search hits in Hilary's favour.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,464
    Trump getting better results in certain states than any republican has for 16 years.

    He could do this.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    edited November 2016
    LuckyReds said:

    Admittedly, I don't know much about the chap, but Marco Rubio came across great in his victory speech. Surely he would've been a better candidate than Trump FFS?

    Given some of his views (anti-gay marriage/ climate change isn't our fault) Trump could be a blessing in disguise. Still, I'd take him over Trump.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited November 2016
    Things should make some more sense when Florida declares. (Or is "called", pesky Americans with their lingo and confused colours.)

    Would also highlight how the exit polls have - once again - been inaccurate.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    This is much scarier than I anticipated.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    JiMMy 85 said:

    LuckyReds said:

    Admittedly, I don't know much about the chap, but Marco Rubio came across great in his victory speech. Surely he would've been a better candidate than Trump FFS?

    Given some of his views (anti-gay marriage/ climate change isn't our fault) Trump could be a blessing in disguise. Still, I'd take him over Trump.
    Damn, I'm an incredibly poor judge of character then! I know one speech isn't enough to judge someone on, but I genuinely thought he seemed great.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Quite fancy getting rid of democracy after the year we've had.
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,464
    Early days but is does appear that the disaffected are making a stand just as those who voted for brexit did.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    LuckyReds said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    LuckyReds said:

    Admittedly, I don't know much about the chap, but Marco Rubio came across great in his victory speech. Surely he would've been a better candidate than Trump FFS?

    Given some of his views (anti-gay marriage/ climate change isn't our fault) Trump could be a blessing in disguise. Still, I'd take him over Trump.
    Damn, I'm an incredibly poor judge of character then! I know one speech isn't enough to judge someone on, but I genuinely thought he seemed great.
    He's conservative in some areas (abortion too) but not entirely a Republican's dream.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/06/a-simple-guide-to-what-marco-rubio-really-believes/?client=safari
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    Be a shame if Kay slipped on that ice rink and wasn't able to partake in anymore filming tonight..
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited November 2016
    Lots of comparisons to Trump and Brexit, perhaps Farage's influence during his visits to Trump over the past few months?

    One trump supporter in Florida: "protect our sovereignty", "business acumen", "common sense", "protect our borders from bad people, immigrants, from coming in".

    Totally baffled by all four of these points:

    -> Protection of Sovereignty; who is threatening US Sovereignty?!
    -> Trump may be rich and appear to have business acumen at first glance, but he also has a fair few failures under his belt.
    -> Common sense is not insulting the majority of the electorate - be they women, specific nationalities or.. well, anyone else he's insulted.
    -> From what I gather, immigration to the US is pretty damn stringent?

    All four points, coming from a Conservative in the UK - a euro-sceptic to boot - are absolutely ludicrous. The situations may appear similar, but Trump has been rather opportunistic in creating a narrative that parallels so tightly in my mind.

    Oh, and the Mexican Peso is tanking right now too... Down 8%. Definitely one to have been shorting if you're that way inclined. Brexit Parallel #22313
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Sitting in my front room with a Brexiter, a Remainer, a despondent Republican and a hardcore Democrat, this is absolutely hilarious.

    If things carry on like this Baileys coffee ain't gonna be enough for my pal from Minnesota
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Media needs to take a lot of blame for what is happening in Western society over the past 5 years.

    Can't spent 4 years insulting and demonising immigrants, then act shocked when working class voters believe shutting the borders will solve all their problems.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,464
    SELR_addicks said:

    Media needs to take a lot of blame for what is happening in Western society over the past 5 years.

    Can't spent 4 years insulting and demonising immigrants, then act shocked when working class voters believe shutting the borders will solve all their problems.

    Wouldn't trust the media anymore than the governance that continually bang on about how good things like immigration are for us.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,527
    Can't take this anymore. Going to bed but think I will wake up to a nightmare.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Weegie Addick said:

    Can't take this anymore. Going to bed but think I will wake up to a nightmare.

    For a change time zones are finally in my favour, it's 10:30am here and the 5 of us all have the day off!
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    JiMMy 85 said:

    LuckyReds said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    LuckyReds said:

    Admittedly, I don't know much about the chap, but Marco Rubio came across great in his victory speech. Surely he would've been a better candidate than Trump FFS?

    Given some of his views (anti-gay marriage/ climate change isn't our fault) Trump could be a blessing in disguise. Still, I'd take him over Trump.
    Damn, I'm an incredibly poor judge of character then! I know one speech isn't enough to judge someone on, but I genuinely thought he seemed great.
    He's conservative in some areas (abortion too) but not entirely a Republican's dream.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/06/a-simple-guide-to-what-marco-rubio-really-believes/?client=safari
    Really interesting; cheers for that, Jimmy!
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    carly burn said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Media needs to take a lot of blame for what is happening in Western society over the past 5 years.

    Can't spent 4 years insulting and demonising immigrants, then act shocked when working class voters believe shutting the borders will solve all their problems.

    Wouldn't trust the media anymore than the governance that continually bang on about how good things like immigration are for us.
    Immigration IS good. The amount of people is a different matter obviously.

    The swing towards isolationist policies will only end badly for the west. Typical of a post-recession world though, happened time and time again.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,464
    SELR_addicks said:

    carly burn said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Media needs to take a lot of blame for what is happening in Western society over the past 5 years.

    Can't spent 4 years insulting and demonising immigrants, then act shocked when working class voters believe shutting the borders will solve all their problems.

    Wouldn't trust the media anymore than the governance that continually bang on about how good things like immigration are for us.
    The amount of people is a different matter obviously.

    Are the media responsible for the numbers then?

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    carly burn said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    carly burn said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Media needs to take a lot of blame for what is happening in Western society over the past 5 years.

    Can't spent 4 years insulting and demonising immigrants, then act shocked when working class voters believe shutting the borders will solve all their problems.

    Wouldn't trust the media anymore than the governance that continually bang on about how good things like immigration are for us.
    The amount of people is a different matter obviously.

    Are the media responsible for the numbers then?

    Of course not. But the amount of hysteria and hatred towards those immigrants are made worse by the language and exaggeration that the media uses.

    Fear sells though, so they probably don't care.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Watching the results right now...

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  • Stefco
    Stefco Posts: 848
    Bedsaddick said:

    Kay Burley is an embarrassment . How does Sky still employ this amateur ?

    Some interesting moments here:

    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/feature/a527982/sky-news-kay-burley-her-most-cringeworthy-moments/

    No.9 is a favourite!
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    I'm waiting for the guy being interviewed (in Ohio) on Sky to explode. He looked completely... shell-shocked and angry.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    A fascinating insight in to Trump's relations with Russia - courtesy of newsweek.com. It is pretty damning, and that's only the stuff we knew already.

    I'm not sure how well sourced it is, as I personally have never heard of Russian involvement in the German election, or the Brexit referendum. That said, it does mention a "kompromat" file that Russia holds on Trump. i.e a compromising video that could be used for blackmail and so on. I saw this claim mentioned this morning on Twitter too, but I put it down to nonsense. (However, the journalist who mentioned it on Twitter went further to say that the video was sexual in nature and "disgusting" according to one intelligence source)
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    NBC projects Ohio for Trump. Up 1.5% in Florida.

    Will end up winning with zero policies other than shutting borders. Seems to be the biggest issue of the 21st century within the US and UK.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    With 99% reporting in Florida, Clinton trails Trump by 135,296 votes. Gary Johnson + Jill Stein = 266,208
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    I am fairly certain Trump will win North Carolina and Florida and then flip Michigan and be our next president.

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