Karl Robinson Press Conference - Snippets from pg.4
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I caught a bit of the BBC London piece without sound.
A controversial figure, who's ruffled a few feathers, but enough about Airman Brown11 -
Did he take Katrien up the oxo tower, just interested?carly burn said:Said all the right things.
However,a night at the oxo tower doesn't bode well.4 -
I thought we established she was Chief Executive in name only. Chief Buffer is probably the more appropriate.Airman Brown said:
In fairness, if you can't answer questions from the media you're not up to being a chief executive of a professional football club. So nothing new there.mogodon said:
In fairness, anyone with half a brain would keep her away from any event where she might open her mouth.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Ha ha how pathetic that the CEO isn't even there for the unveiling of a new manager!
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None of us will ever have any proof as to the whys and wherefores.
However to say in your first press conference that he insisted that Congo Chris simply must stay, having probably first heard of him 10 days ago, and met him just over a week ago....yeah right Karl.
Have you introduced yourself to the fans with a barefaced lie Karl?11 -
I really like what he's got say let's try and be positive.2
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So, just to play devil's advocate here, a possible explanation for the C'OL thing.
Slade is sacked reducing a 3 man coaching team to 2, but doing nothing to reduce the overall workloads.
C'OL is a qualified coach (we can argue about how qualified, but he has his badges at least) on the RD payroll, so is parachuted in to take up some of the slack while the club searches for a new manager - time frame for that to be determined.
KR is appointed, C'OL seemingly surplus to requirements as coaching team is back to 3 and KR may want to bring in his own man as well. C'Ol expected to go back to Belgium.
KR talks to C'OL and likes him (and to be fair, none of us have ever heard him speak or even met him, as far as I'm aware, so he may be more competent than we are giving him credit for) decides he'd like him to stay on the coaching team - no objections form RD or KM as the network is picking up his salary one way or another anyway.
Not saying it's the version of events I believe, and if that was the case not sure why C'OL wouldn't have been announced as temporary coach when he was appointed, but wouldn't be unlike this lot to make a pigs ear of communicating a simple and fairly harmless message.6 -
"I know there are things going on - I am not stupid." Going to haunt you Karl.17
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So COL said right back to Karl, I'm only staying whilst you're here. You go, I go.2
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He seems personable and likable and really open to our fans and people. Never ever got this feeling with brussell5
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I'm pretty sure she waits til after pointlessMrLargo said:
She doesn't leave for work until Bargain Hunt's finished. She'll go back to her office after the Press Conference, send Roly a couple of mails so it looks like she's working late and then head off to Toni and Guy and spend an hour moaning to the hairdresser about what a tough day at work she's had.The Red Robin said:4.30pm seems a bit too close to a full days work for Katrien Meire. Are you sure you have the right time? I imagine she's usually bunked off by then.
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It just seems we'll have a surplus of coaches if Nugent and Simon Clark stay on. C'OL and Barker (if he comes in) make 4 coachesExiled_Addick said:So, just to play devil's advocate here, a possible explanation for the C'OL thing.
Slade is sacked reducing a 3 man coaching team to 2, but doing nothing to reduce the overall workloads.
C'OL is a qualified coach (we can argue about how qualified, but he has his badges at least) on the RD payroll, so is parachuted in to take up some of the slack while the club searches for a new manager - time frame for that to be determined.
KR is appointed, C'OL seemingly surplus to requirements as coaching team is back to 3 and KR may want to bring in his own man as well. C'Ol expected to go back to Belgium.
KR talks to C'OL and likes him (and to be fair, none of us have ever heard him speak or even met him, as far as I'm aware, so he may be more competent than we are giving him credit for) decides he'd like him to stay on the coaching team - no objections form RD or KM as the network is picking up his salary one way or another anyway.
Not saying it's the version of events I believe, and if that was the case not sure why C'OL wouldn't have been announced as temporary coach when he was appointed, but wouldn't be unlike this lot to make a pigs ear of communicating a simple and fairly harmless message.
Unless he's expecting Nugent to leave0 -
Or, rather than liking him, decided it would do his job security no harm to get in with someone that has the ear of the owner.Exiled_Addick said:So, just to play devil's advocate here, a possible explanation for the C'OL thing.
Slade is sacked reducing a 3 man coaching team to 2, but doing nothing to reduce the overall workloads.
C'OL is a qualified coach (we can argue about how qualified, but he has his badges at least) on the RD payroll, so is parachuted in to take up some of the slack while the club searches for a new manager - time frame for that to be determined.
KR is appointed, C'OL seemingly surplus to requirements as coaching team is back to 3 and KR may want to bring in his own man as well. C'Ol expected to go back to Belgium.
KR talks to C'OL and likes him (and to be fair, none of us have ever heard him speak or even met him, as far as I'm aware, so he may be more competent than we are giving him credit for) decides he'd like him to stay on the coaching team - no objections form RD or KM as the network is picking up his salary one way or another anyway.
Not saying it's the version of events I believe, and if that was the case not sure why C'OL wouldn't have been announced as temporary coach when he was appointed, but wouldn't be unlike this lot to make a pigs ear of communicating a simple and fairly harmless message.3 -
Did anyone actually understand any of this?sammy391 said:9 -
With his CV, Congo Chris would not get a coaching job in any of the other 91 clubs in the league. So who is Robinson trying to kid?
Babysitting the regime coach is part of the deal, but watch it Robbo, his first loyalty is to Pinocchio and Uncle Roly, not you. He'll be reporting back on your every move and will distance himself from any of the blame if it all goes wrong. After all, it's all designed to get him some credibility, where he has none, before he is shoe-horned in as the next manager. Watch your back Robbo.37 -
I want him to do well and win all the time. I actually think he is a pretty good manager. The problem today is the Congo Chris stuff which to me is coming across as, frankly, barefaced lies. If he wants to get the fans on his side, don't continue the 'treat the fans with contempt' plan so enthusiastically developed by Katrien Meire and Roland Duchatelet.raytreacy69 said:
Why?FFS - some of you are just complete Fuckin negative and seem only happy if you see the club failing.Lighten up and give the bloke a chanceThe Red Robin said:Another puppet.
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No, you don't understand. Duchatelet is here and he may be here for another 5 years.iainment said:
Duchatelet goes.Covered End said:Give Robinson a chance ffs. I don't understand the mentality of some of our supporters that say.
"If you take a job from Duchatelet, with all the information there is out there about him and Charlton, then you're the wrong person for the job."
So what do you propose then ? Do you want us to have no manager indefinitely ?
Do you think no manager is better than any manager ?
Please explain to me your better alternative.
So if Duchatelet is here for 5 years, would you prefer us to have no manager ?
The simple choice is a manager is appointed, who you say is "the wrong person" or no manager is appointed.
I'm afraid that's very muddled thinking.3 -
I've eaten at the OXO loadsatimes and never bumped into another Addick.
He must be a liar.7 -
My have been KM's converted taxi driver.Addickted2U said:I've eaten at the OXO loadsatimes and never bumped into another Addick.
He must be a liar.1 -
So Karl Robinson:
- Spent most of his playing career in the shitty bits of the non league circuit, presumably while working full time to make ends meet
- Moved to MK Dons while young on the coaching staff, when they had relatively little money, so...
- Became their manager, gets a bit of a pay rise, shoestring playing budget though
- Leaves MK
- Becomes our manager, presumably earning (and I don't know how the CAFC payroll works) significantly more a year now than he had done previously, or certainly the biggest wage of his life as it stands
And in the first few days - well, rather, the first ACTUAL day - of the job, probably a relatively financially attractive job where there are clearly some good players (because let's face it we have got, certainly for this league, a decent squad), he says a couple things that no doubt have been fed to him by his employers.
Is anyone really that surprised he's said what he's said about CO'L? If I were being paid, say, £100k a year and had to do that, I know I would - much like if I were Diego Poyet (who many see as greedy), I'd defo take a tenfold wage increase or whatever it was to go do essentially the same job.
Like, I'm dismayed these frankly ludicrous comments have been made by Robinson, but I can understand them and I'm not going to hold his supposed views on CO'L against him.
Basically, it looks like we want to turn ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING into a negative against the board and paint it so that literally anything they do - breathe, speak, eat, exist - turns to shit, but we 1) don't need to; and 2) it's a bit silly after a point.
They make themselves look like twats anyway.
Let's point our pitchforks in more sensible directions.19 -
Yeah I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean as much as we'd like him to say "I didn't have a choice in the matter that he's part of my coaching team" better to play along for now. We also don't know exactly how he will fit in the coaching team KR may just get the guy organising sprints and laying out cones everyday.Exiled_Addick said:So, just to play devil's advocate here, a possible explanation for the C'OL thing.
Slade is sacked reducing a 3 man coaching team to 2, but doing nothing to reduce the overall workloads.
C'OL is a qualified coach (we can argue about how qualified, but he has his badges at least) on the RD payroll, so is parachuted in to take up some of the slack while the club searches for a new manager - time frame for that to be determined.
KR is appointed, C'OL seemingly surplus to requirements as coaching team is back to 3 and KR may want to bring in his own man as well. C'Ol expected to go back to Belgium.
KR talks to C'OL and likes him (and to be fair, none of us have ever heard him speak or even met him, as far as I'm aware, so he may be more competent than we are giving him credit for) decides he'd like him to stay on the coaching team - no objections form RD or KM as the network is picking up his salary one way or another anyway.
Not saying it's the version of events I believe, and if that was the case not sure why C'OL wouldn't have been announced as temporary coach when he was appointed, but wouldn't be unlike this lot to make a pigs ear of communicating a simple and fairly harmless message.0 -
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He's right about employees and fans all needing the same ambition.sammy391 said:
Unfortunately, it's the owner that doesn't share the ambition.5 -
It's actually getting boring with people's ridiculous levels of negativity.16
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We all know that this is not going to end well for Karl.
History tells us he hasn't a cat in hell's chance of making this work.
You can call me negative and not giving him a chance,but the FACT remains that this regime and set up are not conductive of producing success in football at any level.... or country for that matter.
All we can do is sit back and wait for another wheel to fall off.3 -
When asked about COL, Robinson had the option to say 'I don't want to discuss that', or 'I don't want to discuss that at the moment as I need to get to know everybody first'.1
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The negativity isn't so much around the new manager (although he may not help himself if this 'press conference' is anything to go by) but around the fact that we all know that they could appoint a team of Jose M, Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger with Curbishley as head coach and it'd still end in failure. The manager isn't the main problem, the owners are (who in turn hire the managers). What makes you think that managers 1-6 were a flop but manager 7 won't be, I think in any other walk of life if you employed 7 staff members to do the same job and each one was a failure the blame would lie squarely at the hirer's door.Covered End said:
No, you don't understand, Duchatelet is here and he may be here for another 5 years.iainment said:
Duchatelet goes.Covered End said:Give Robinson a chance ffs. I don't understand the mentality of some of our supporters that say.
"If you take a job from Duchatelet, with all the information there is out there about him and Charlton, then you're the wrong person for the job."
So what do you propose then ? Do you want us to have no manager indefinitely ?
Do you think no manager is better than any manager ?
Please explain to me your better alternative.
So if Duchatelet is here for 5 years you would prefer us to have no manager ?
The simple choice is a manager is appointed, who you say is "the wrong person" or no manager is appointed.
I'm afraid that's very muddled thinking. Next, you'll be telling me you voted TUSC in the election.
They are incapable of running a football club. Nothing in the past 24 months has shown me otherwise, yes KR is a better manager than some that came before but that doesn't change the fact that we have owners incapable of running an even remotely successful football club. If they haven't learnt from their mistakes by now (which they clearly haven't) appointing the recently sacked MKD manager isn't going to change that.
Next you'll be telling me that KR was their number one choice all along and only because he became available did they sack Slade.
Due to their incompetence we can pretty much only attract management and players of the more mercenary nature. No one in their right mind will come and work for these owners unless they have to.
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I thought the SLP stuff was very clever, not just bland clichés.
You can choose to believe it or not but he's smart.
Let's hope that he's as clever a coach.
He's the manager and I want him to succeed just as I do every Charlton manager.
The COL thing is very odd. Will wait to see how it plays out and if Congo Chris is still here in a few weeks time. I think Karl knows he has to manage up as much if not more than he manages down. First milestone will be if he get Barker as his number two.
Interesting times.8 -
And here's to you, Karl Robinso.
Jesus knows why you chose this place.3 -
Well said Paddy. Robinson can't criticise the owner or the fans before he's even taken charge of a game.PaddyP17 said:So Karl Robinson:
- Spent most of his playing career in the shitty bits of the non league circuit, presumably while working full time to make ends meet
- Moved to MK Dons while young on the coaching staff, when they had relatively little money, so...
- Became their manager, gets a bit of a pay rise, shoestring playing budget though
- Leaves MK
- Becomes our manager, presumably earning (and I don't know how the CAFC payroll works) significantly more a year now than he had done previously, or certainly the biggest wage of his life as it stands
And in the first few days - well, rather, the first ACTUAL day - of the job, probably a relatively financially attractive job where there are clearly some good players (because let's face it we have got, certainly for this league, a decent squad), he says a couple things that no doubt have been fed to him by his employers.
Is anyone really that surprised he's said what he's said about CO'L? If I were being paid, say, £100k a year and had to do that, I know I would - much like if I were Diego Poyet (who many see as greedy), I'd defo take a tenfold wage increase or whatever it was to go do essentially the same job.
Like, I'm dismayed these frankly ludicrous comments have been made by Robinson, but I can understand them and I'm not going to hold his supposed views on CO'L against him.
Basically, it looks like we want to turn ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING into a negative against the board and paint it so that literally anything they do - breathe, speak, eat, exist - turns to shit, but we 1) don't need to; and 2) it's a bit silly after a point.
They make themselves look like twats anyway.
Let's point our pitchforks in more sensible directions.
The only sensible thing he can attempt to do, is to be somewhat diplomatic and ask for everyone to pull in the same direction.
I'd like to ask one question to anyone that thinks that he should be criticising his employer in the media, in his first week at work. The question is, "would you" ?8 -
I've thought long and hard about this and I just don't care. Which is something else that breaks my black heart.
Robinson is actually a good fit for the toads running the club, he won't have made anything like a nest egg from the game, being at a vilified club will be old hat for him. From what I've heard he is a decent coach but whenever I heard him speak when he was at mk franchise I thought 'berk' same as I do whenever Lee Clark opens his gob.
He will be gone by easter anyway along with our dreams of Katrien or Rolarse deciding that last 3 years were horrible for everyone and it's time to pour all their efforts into buying Flemish wind turbines and pissing off belgian cabbage farmers7 -
@superclive I know its frustrating but what do we do? give him a chance, like the last 6, and the next 6?
Yes its all very negative but not because we want it to be, the clubs a f@*king mess and this poor bloke is put up before the press to try and tell us all is ok if we stick together.
Why wouldnt he? its his big chance in a new job but take a step back.
This was the unveiling of a new manager and neither the owner or a member of the SMT was there to welcome him, has that happened before? Anywhere?
The place is in chaos, utter chaos and owned by a man who doesnt care or even have the courtesy to speak to us.
Welcome Karl, as a passionate supporter I do hope you can turn things around on the pitch, and will be cheering you and the side on but I also know that you wont be able to change anything off of it. We need another Jimmy Seed to do that.
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