Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)
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More than two apparently. Wait for it.....Brendan_O_Connell said:Does it really take two blokes to move that FFS? The driver could have got out and moved that himself and been on his way in about 30 seconds.
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Asap? Should take about a second even without the chain saw.2
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Chain Saw Team = Terry with his secateurs5
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Having to work out if its actually a tree or whether its something thats fallen down from outer space!!MrLargo said:3 -
1. It's "Chainsaw Team", not "Chain saw team". If you're in a communications job I would have thought understanding English grammar would be quite an important prerequisite.
2. You sent the Chainsaw Team? Have you seen the size of the tree? You could have sent the Scissors Team, the Toenail Clippers Team, the Butter knife Team or even the "Power of Positive Energy" Team, they could all have removed that branch in seconds.
Like sending in the SAS to rescue a cat from a tree, morons!14 -
You lot don't stop moaning.
That tree could have nasty prickles, a jagged branch or a fungus.
And it's wet meaning the chainsaw could slide off it, potentially severing one of the rails.
So they have to be careful.7 -
Now let me be clear I am absolutely not defending them here, southeastern are a shower of wobbly, chinless, horse fuckers
However the blokes recovering that bit of wood possibly amongst others are bound by health and safety statute and also have a duty to make sure other bits of tree aren't going to fall onto the track too. As much as we can all say just sling it to one side they won't want to be getting called back because any one has got hurt because they rushed about. And I promise you nobody thanks you when you do things like that regardless of goodwill and a keenness to be helpful
Fucking annoying though
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MrLargo said:
1. It's "Chainsaw Team", not "Chain saw team". If you're in a communications job I would have thought understanding English grammar would be quite an important prerequisite.
2. You sent the Chainsaw Team? Have you seen the size of the tree? You could have sent the Scissors Team, the Toenail Clippers Team, the Butter knife Team or even the "Power of Positive Energy" Team, they could all have removed that branch in seconds.
Like sending in the SAS to rescue a cat from a tree, morons!
It'll be the contract. It's almost as bad as the unions. "Can't touch that. Not my job. Not in the contract."1 -
I think you're right, sadly. I'm sure every bit of common sense in them is being overridden by rules that they can't move things until this ridiculous 'Chainsaw Team' arrive. On any the company's side - you don't need to be sued by some clumsy berk many times before you start covering your arse with rules and regs.Carter said:Now let me be clear I am absolutely not defending them here, southeastern are a shower of wobbly, chinless, horse fuckers
However the blokes recovering that bit of wood possibly amongst others are bound by health and safety statute and also have a duty to make sure other bits of tree aren't going to fall onto the track too. As much as we can all say just sling it to one side they won't want to be getting called back because any one has got hurt because they rushed about. And I promise you nobody thanks you when you do things like that regardless of goodwill and a keenness to be helpful
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he passed away a few years ago, anyway it's his Mum's faultman_at_milletts said:
If we're going to get into a blame culture, what about the bastard that planted it!!!LargeAddick said:
isn't it the tree that should take the blame?Callumcafc said:Obstruction on the line about to make me late for my Stats exam for my degree. Thanks Southeastern!!!
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What always annoyed me about this sort of thing was that they never warned you before you get on the train. As long as the train is on time when it gets into your station they don't bother telling you about the 3 hour queue ahead.
If they said 'trains are running okay here but there is a serious delay further up the line' at least people will know. Those who can take other transport or work from home will do so. The number or times I could have saved myself a load of agro and worked from home...
The worst time what when I got on the train no sign of any issues no announcements. Get most if the way there and join a 3 hour queue of trains trying to get a platform because Victoria is flooded (and has been since 4am) and there are only 3 platforms open.
I complained and they said 'it was on our Twitter'. What so I have to check your Twitter every day even if all the trains at my station were on time... where's the logic in that. Just tell us there is an issue further up the line.5 -
Just practicing my ranting skills for August!cantersaddick said:What always annoyed me about this sort of thing was that they never warned you before you get on the train. As long as the train is on time when it gets into your station they don't bother telling you about the 3 hour queue ahead.
If they said 'trains are running okay here but there is a serious delay further up the line' at least people will know. Those who can take other transport or work from home will do so. The number or times I could have saved myself a load of agro and worked from home...
The worst time what when I got on the train no sign of any issues no announcements. Get most if the way there and join a 3 hour queue of trains trying to get a platform because Victoria is flooded (and has been since 4am) and there are only 3 platforms open.
I complained and they said 'it was on our Twitter'. What so I have to check your Twitter every day even if all the trains at my station were on time... where's the logic in that. Just tell us there is an issue further up the line.3 -
Their communications are absolute dogshit. You can get better info from the National Rail app than they pass on to the drivers and station staff. I've actually stood at the station before and told people roughly whereabouts on the line our late train is ("departed Bexleyheath 14 minutes late, " for example) while the South Eastern station bloke tries and fails to get the same info in his office, and the display boards in the station either say "Delayed" or, even more annoyingly, they tell you that it's 2/3 minutes away when you can tell on your phone that it's not gonna be there for at least fifteen minutes.cantersaddick said:What always annoyed me about this sort of thing was that they never warned you before you get on the train. As long as the train is on time when it gets into your station they don't bother telling you about the 3 hour queue ahead.
If they said 'trains are running okay here but there is a serious delay further up the line' at least people will know. Those who can take other transport or work from home will do so. The number or times I could have saved myself a load of agro and worked from home...
The worst time what when I got on the train no sign of any issues no announcements. Get most if the way there and join a 3 hour queue of trains trying to get a platform because Victoria is flooded (and has been since 4am) and there are only 3 platforms open.
I complained and they said 'it was on our Twitter'. What so I have to check your Twitter every day even if all the trains at my station were on time... where's the logic in that. Just tell us there is an issue further up the line.
You've got just 2 months of your life left to enjoy @cantersaddick, then it's gonna be a daily living hell all the way to retirement. Welcome back.3 -
Can't wait!MrLargo said:
Their communications are absolute dogshit. You can get better info from the National Rail app than they pass on to the drivers and station staff. I've actually stood at the station before and told people roughly whereabouts on the line our late train is ("departed Bexleyheath 14 minutes late, " for example) while the South Eastern station bloke tries and fails to get the same info in his office, and the display boards in the station either say "Delayed" or, even more annoyingly, they tell you that it's 2/3 minutes away when you can tell on your phone that it's not gonna be there for at least fifteen minutes.cantersaddick said:What always annoyed me about this sort of thing was that they never warned you before you get on the train. As long as the train is on time when it gets into your station they don't bother telling you about the 3 hour queue ahead.
If they said 'trains are running okay here but there is a serious delay further up the line' at least people will know. Those who can take other transport or work from home will do so. The number or times I could have saved myself a load of agro and worked from home...
The worst time what when I got on the train no sign of any issues no announcements. Get most if the way there and join a 3 hour queue of trains trying to get a platform because Victoria is flooded (and has been since 4am) and there are only 3 platforms open.
I complained and they said 'it was on our Twitter'. What so I have to check your Twitter every day even if all the trains at my station were on time... where's the logic in that. Just tell us there is an issue further up the line.
You've got just 2 months of your life left to enjoy @cantersaddick, then it's gonna be a daily living hell all the way to retirement. Welcome back.1 -
That was always one of the things that wound me up when I used to get the train. The board would say the train was 3 minutes away, slowly tick down to 1 minute away, then jump back up to 3 minutes away. There must be some sort of false advertising law that can be applied to lying about when a service is going to arrive.3
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It's like a slightly less sinister version of The Sun's countdown to Emma Watson's 16th birthday.MrLargo said:
Their communications are absolute dogshit. You can get better info from the National Rail app than they pass on to the drivers and station staff. I've actually stood at the station before and told people roughly whereabouts on the line our late train is ("departed Bexleyheath 14 minutes late, " for example) while the South Eastern station bloke tries and fails to get the same info in his office, and the display boards in the station either say "Delayed" or, even more annoyingly, they tell you that it's 2/3 minutes away when you can tell on your phone that it's not gonna be there for at least fifteen minutes.cantersaddick said:What always annoyed me about this sort of thing was that they never warned you before you get on the train. As long as the train is on time when it gets into your station they don't bother telling you about the 3 hour queue ahead.
If they said 'trains are running okay here but there is a serious delay further up the line' at least people will know. Those who can take other transport or work from home will do so. The number or times I could have saved myself a load of agro and worked from home...
The worst time what when I got on the train no sign of any issues no announcements. Get most if the way there and join a 3 hour queue of trains trying to get a platform because Victoria is flooded (and has been since 4am) and there are only 3 platforms open.
I complained and they said 'it was on our Twitter'. What so I have to check your Twitter every day even if all the trains at my station were on time... where's the logic in that. Just tell us there is an issue further up the line.
You've got just 2 months of your life left to enjoy @cantersaddick, then it's gonna be a daily living hell all the way to retirement. Welcome back.7 -
Also there's the small matter of the conductor rail. Its a brave man who would remove that huge wet twig without unplugging the electric first.Carter said:Now let me be clear I am absolutely not defending them here, southeastern are a shower of wobbly, chinless, horse fuckers
However the blokes recovering that bit of wood possibly amongst others are bound by health and safety statute and also have a duty to make sure other bits of tree aren't going to fall onto the track too. As much as we can all say just sling it to one side they won't want to be getting called back because any one has got hurt because they rushed about. And I promise you nobody thanks you when you do things like that regardless of goodwill and a keenness to be helpful
Fucking annoying though
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Just as an aside, can anybody tell from this cab what class this train is?ForeverAddickted said:
Having to work out if its actually a tree or whether its something thats fallen down from outer space!!MrLargo said:
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Its part of the Chatham Main Line so could be one of four rolling stock... Based on the photo, I'd say its the British Rail Class 375 as it looks as though its got that bit in the middleman_at_milletts said:
Just as an aside, can anybody tell from this cab what class this train is?ForeverAddickted said:
Having to work out if its actually a tree or whether its something thats fallen down from outer space!!MrLargo said:
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Not sure could be an early 374 . However, the tree looks like a silver birch.4
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Pretty sure that's a 465 Networker, guys. You can tell by the angle of the windscreen wipers.
Cracking piece of kit, great looking bogies and a top speed of 120km/h and a maximum inside temperature of 117C, subject to acheiving the right blend of overcrowding, commuter anger, windows shut and heating on despite excessively high outside temperatures.12 -
Probably too scared to cut this tree up in case it upsets the other tree's. New EU regulation for plants.5
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You're right about the tree, but I think Mr Largo is correct about it being a 465.RaplhMilne said:Not sure could be an early 374 . However, the tree looks like a silver birch.
The giveaway is that I can just make out the heater controls which are in the 'full' position.
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No chance is it a 465... 100% its a Class 375, the windscreen at the front of the photo is straight whereas the 465 is curved!!MrLargo said:Pretty sure that's a 465 Networker, guys. You can tell by the angle of the windscreen wipers.
Cracking piece of kit, great looking bogies and a top speed of 120km/h and a maximum inside temperature of 117C, subject to acheiving the right blend of overcrowding, commuter anger, windows shut and heating on despite excessively high outside temperatures.
How some people on here can call themselves train enthusiasts is quite simple... a JOKE!! (winky face thing)5 -
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Definitely the image on the right (375)... Look to the right of the wiper-blade, what sticks out like that on the left (465)?
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Mate, I am soooo close to flagging you for daring to question my train knowledge, and for humiliating me in front of my co-South Eastern Trains haters!ForeverAddickted said:
No chance is it a 465... 100% its a Class 375, the windscreen at the front of the photo is straight whereas the 465 is curved!!MrLargo said:Pretty sure that's a 465 Networker, guys. You can tell by the angle of the windscreen wipers.
Cracking piece of kit, great looking bogies and a top speed of 120km/h and a maximum inside temperature of 117C, subject to acheiving the right blend of overcrowding, commuter anger, windows shut and heating on despite excessively high outside temperatures.
How some people on here can call themselves train enthusiasts is quite simple... a JOKE!! (winky face thing)
However, I think you might be right, so I'll let it go, just this once.
They've started using 376 Electrostars on some of the services on my route home. Got to say, it's brought a really interesting new dimension to my "delayed due to a points failure at Lewisham" experience every f*%king morning and evening. Great days!
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WHAT train knowledge!! - I can endure the embarrassment on the pitch... I can endure the idiot defenders of the Belgian regime but I really do have to question my support of Charlton Athletic when people cant identify trains on here properly!!MrLargo said:
Mate, I am soooo close to flagging you for daring to question my train knowledge, and for humiliating me in front of my co-South Eastern Trains haters!ForeverAddickted said:
No chance is it a 465... 100% its a Class 375, the windscreen at the front of the photo is straight whereas the 465 is curved!!MrLargo said:Pretty sure that's a 465 Networker, guys. You can tell by the angle of the windscreen wipers.
Cracking piece of kit, great looking bogies and a top speed of 120km/h and a maximum inside temperature of 117C, subject to acheiving the right blend of overcrowding, commuter anger, windows shut and heating on despite excessively high outside temperatures.
How some people on here can call themselves train enthusiasts is quite simple... a JOKE!! (winky face thing)
However, I think you might be right, so I'll let it go, just this once.
They've started using 376 Electrostars on some of the services on my route home. Got to say, it's brought a really interesting new dimension to my "delayed due to a points failure at Lewisham" experience every f*%king morning and evening. Great days!
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Yes to the first one. The second one after a few beers.man_at_milletts said:
465
375
Vote now!21
