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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    EveshamAddick said:

    Didn't they say Corbyn was unelectable?

    Yes and the press have had a field day with him. He's hardly a great leader but Theresa is a walking disaster.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    SDAddick said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    SDAddick said:

    There's a man in Battersea who has apparently just come from a dress rehearsal for a 14th century pimp.

    What you chatting about? He's from the Charitable Order of Antelope
    I'm genuinely not sure if that's a joke or not.
    Would I joke about the Charitable Order of Antelope?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    Leuth said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    Laddick01 said:

    Say what you like about Corbyn's leadership, he has done an incredible job in winning the votes of disillusioned Tory voters.

    May done an incredible job losing it
    It required the contrast provided by Corbyn for her to do that.
    cuntrast
    Now now!
    I thought it was the lefties that got violent when things didn't go their way...
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    I wonder if in fact the UKIP vote is not going to both Lab and Tories but is in fact all going to the Tories and that Lab is actually gaining Remain voters from the Tories.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    edited June 2017
    Labour apparently 200 ahead in Canterbury on first count. Re-count likely.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783


    MASSIVE Labour gain.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    I am a Tory remainer and was speaking to another previous Tory remainer at work and that's exactly what he said he was doing
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    C_A_F_C said:

    Labour apparently 200 ahead in Canterbury on first count. Re-count likely.

    That's....that's unassailable
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Callumcafc said:

    Leuth said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    Laddick01 said:

    Say what you like about Corbyn's leadership, he has done an incredible job in winning the votes of disillusioned Tory voters.

    May done an incredible job losing it
    It required the contrast provided by Corbyn for her to do that.
    cuntrast
    Now now!
    I thought it was the lefties that got violent when things didn't go their way...
    Cor it was only a joke Cal, a little play on words. I'll accept the result whatever it is son
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    Tories accept that the exit poll is the best case scenario.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,944
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    I wonder if in fact the UKIP vote is not going to both Lab and Tories but is in fact all going to the Tories and that Lab is actually gaining Remain voters from the Tories.

    That's possible and I'm sure the reality is somewhere in the middle.

    I still maintain that last time round UKIP took votes off traditional Labour voters. Those of working class background who were disillusioned with life and with politics and didn't see anything changing under Milliband and so went to UKIP. Whether as a protest vote or as a hope for someone to represent the working classes.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,019
    edited June 2017
    No one on the BBC seems to have twigged that Labour could win this.....
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    edited June 2017
    BBC now new Forecast at:

    322 Tories
    261 Labour
    32 SNP
    13 Lib Dems

    Tories in with DUP etc
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    Theresa May following on from David Cameron in misreading the electorate.
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    Result!
    Hung parliament? "Ministers do not expect to out perform exit poll" sounds like code for May = toast!
    Delays to process?
    Pound down but now rising on Asian markets.
    Time to think
    (Obviously not popular with those who don't want to think!)
    We are in the midst of a democratic process.. can't even begin to describe the next phase - will leave it to the professionals :)
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,886
    Certainly looking interesting and not what I expected. Started watching the BBC coverage but started flicking over and have got to say been very impressed with Sky who have been showing a lot of declarations and seem to be covering things much better than the terrestial channels so far.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    Forecast for Tories now 322. So coalition with DUP?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    ANGUS ROBERTSON GONE
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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    edited June 2017
    EveshamAddick said:

    No one on the BBC seems to have twigged that Labour could win this.....

    Well they have them on 261 seats at 2:20am so that would have to be the worst forecast 4 hours in ever.

    They are miles away - not saying they couldn't get a minority cobbled together but they aren't gonna be bigger than the Tories.

    BBC forecast is stating that the progressive alliance will be well behind the Tories in seats.

    That leaves two choices:

    1) we have a minority coalition
    2) we have a borderline majority Tory gov with DUP helping them sneak in

    Would the Tories think fuck it... Get May out.... And prepare for 12 months time?

    Would Corbyn want to fuck it up with a minority run of chaos when he could give it 12 months and go for a majority? He couldn't get his policies past an opposition that's bigger.

    He could wait 12 months and then go all in as a majority
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    2nd Brexit referendum has to be on the cards - what a shambles.
    Nigel sticking the knife in.

    Nigel was backing May when she sang from the UKIP hymn sheet six months ago.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    YES!!!!!! Angus Robertson GONE
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,813
    Forecast now 322 for Con, 261 Lab.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    ME14addick said:

    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    ME14addick said:

    mcgrandall said:

    PragueAddick said:

    In the pub, my niece said that this time round, the youth vote is real. " it's become cool to vote" she said. At 21.55....

    I'm hoping this puts an end to the suggestion of a take over by the hard left, maybe they have finally given a mandate that the whole Labour party can accept and build upon together. If the have energised the youth vote, they have defied the establishment again. Early days yet saying that.
    Those young people didn't ever have to travel on a nationalised railway run by British Rail or suffer when the country was in the grip of the Trade Unions with constant strikes. Labour Governments have always overspent and left the economy in a worse state than they found it.
    Fuck me you sound like the Daily Mail. Stuck in the 1970s.

    Privatising the railways has really been a great success....
    I remember the mess the country was in under Labour in the 70s. Young people voting today have no idea what that was like.
    Change the record - the world has changed since the 1970s. You'll be going on about Winston Churchill next.

    Should I start reminding you of all the disasters the Tories have presided over?

    Tbh we're probably f***ed whoever is in charge. Our economy is knackered!
    Jeremy Corbyn's policy of tax and spend would take us back to the 70s.
  • Sheepie1985
    Sheepie1985 Posts: 483
    Usually watch the BBC for elections but just switched over to ITV's coverage, so much better! Even Osbourne is being decent
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    What in the fucking hell is Scotland doing.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    Fiiish said:

    What in the fucking hell is Scotland doing.

    Ruth Davidson is a monster but she's worked a miracle up there.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Scotland saving the Tories.

    Ruth Davidson for next leader?
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