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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888
    If potential buyers wanted to visit The Valley to attend a match then it would fall on Richard Murray, as RD's only remaining representative at the club, to entertain them as his 'guests', even if he was involved with a competing bid. Perhaps that is why they didn't sit together ?
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503

    How much more is the club worth if we are promoted. They could be looking at 10m additional incoming next season, not insignificant. But duch is eroding any chance of that by pulling the plug on robbo.

    And how much would an owner need to spend to stay in the Championship, let alone get promoted? The answer to both is likely to be, a lot.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,700
    Hex said:

    If potential buyers wanted to visit The Valley to attend a match then it would fall on Richard Murray, as RD's only remaining representative at the club, to entertain them as his 'guests', even if he was involved with a competing bid. Perhaps that is why they didn't sit together ?

    Agree with this
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2018

    Swisdom said:

    Uboat said:

    Two things that I keep reading on here:

    1. Roland doesn't mind losing hundreds of thousands a month because he's too rich to care about money.

    2. The sale is being delayed because he wants too much for the club and doesn't want to make a loss.

    They can't both be right, can they?

    Now he knows there is interest he might as well hang on until the summer and lose a couple of milion in the mean time as opposed to take a £10m hit on his asking price.
    True but that assumes that the buyers will:

    1. Still be interested in the summer

    2. Be any more willing to pay an unrealistic price in the summer than they are now

    If @Redhenry is correct, and I don't doubt him, that one buyer has walked then so can the others.

    Some say that Duchatelet is a businessman and very rich so is not going to take a haircut but the buyers are also very rich businessmen and have no reason to pay over the odds.
    What happens if all the bidders walk?


    Btw my corporate lawyer friend says he has bought another firm's DD a few times. He did this with the agreement of both parties i.e. the people who commissioned DD but had pulled out, and the lawyers who completed DD.
    As DD looks at contracts and accounts, and asks questions when there is a lack of clarity, you can see how this would save a lot of time. Buying 3rd party DD doesn't prevent you from asking further questions of course..
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    JamesSeed said:

    Swisdom said:

    Uboat said:

    Two things that I keep reading on here:

    1. Roland doesn't mind losing hundreds of thousands a month because he's too rich to care about money.

    2. The sale is being delayed because he wants too much for the club and doesn't want to make a loss.

    They can't both be right, can they?

    Now he knows there is interest he might as well hang on until the summer and lose a couple of milion in the mean time as opposed to take a £10m hit on his asking price.
    True but that assumes that the buyers will:

    1. Still be interested in the summer

    2. Be any more willing to pay an unrealistic price in the summer than they are now

    If @Redhenry is correct, and I don't doubt him, that one buyer has walked then so can the others.

    Some say that Duchatelet is a businessman and very rich so is not going to take a haircut but the buyers are also very rich businessmen and have no reason to pay over the odds.
    What happens if all the bidders walk?

    we are fucked

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561

    I really hope McCleish is not being lined up as a manager.

    me too. maybe he is advising in some capacity?
  • Bing bong.

    " Would Richard Murray please come to the CL thread entitled " Roland Duchatelet ready to sell ".

    He is clearly the only person to put us out of our misery by spilling the beans.

    All this speculation is playing havoc with my IB !!!!
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195

    Bing bong.

    " Would Richard Murray please come to the CL thread entitled " Roland Duchatelet ready to sell ".

    He is clearly the only person to put us out of our misery by spilling the beans.

    All this speculation is playing havoc with my IB !!!!

    International Baccalaureate? That's the spirit. Never stop learning.
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128

    Bing bong.

    " Would Richard Murray please come to the CL thread entitled " Roland Duchatelet ready to sell ".

    He is clearly the only person to put us out of our misery by spilling the beans.

    All this speculation is playing havoc with my IBS !!!!

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  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723

    I really hope McCleish is not being lined up as a manager.

    Is he really that bad then?
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,054
    Nothing in the know, but just caught up on the last 4 pages of this. People linking Donald Muir with South Africa...would he have been involved also with Dave King, chairman at Rangers, who is a South African based Scot?

    Based on nothing more than the press reports about him and McLeish's dire record as a manager in England, I really hope he's not involved!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,678

    I really hope McCleish is not being lined up as a manager.

    If he is connected to the potential buyers I would see him in some sort of director off football roll rather than a manager
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,823
    Redhenry said:

    So in summary where are we now with the takeover?

    The theory that "nothing is happening" has been blown out of the water. That has been proved incorrect and totally false.

    There are multiple parties who have expressed an interest.

    The identities of the potential buyers are not all known.

    Informed sources suggest that one is Australian Andrew Muir. This is not believed to be the same as the AFC Australian consortium bid that started this thread.

    Some sources claim that Muir's partner, a Greek-Australian, has pulled out and that the Muir bid is now either on the shelf or has been pulled completely. Muir is the only bidder believed to have completed DD.

    Other bidders' identity are not known although there has been no reliable evidence that Red Bull or Peter Varney are or have been involved.

    @Redhenry suggested a possible Middle Eastern bid as well as a bid from someone "trusted" by Duchatelet. Who this is isn't clear.

    On Saturday, former Rangers, and perhaps more interestingly Genk, manager Alex McLeish was entertained by director Richard Murray and given prime seats in the directors box where our departed CEO used to sit.

    With McLeish was Donald Muir (no relation to Andrew Muir of Australian bid fame) a financier with links to various heavyweight trust funds and banks. The third person in the party remains unknown.

    Some sources have suggested a South African connection via Donald Muir and McLeish but again this hasn't been verified.

    Meanwhile, Karl Robinson has expressed his frustration that he is not able to sign any players while the takeover continues to the media on Thursday and after the Oldham win. He also expressed his frustration in much stronger terms to fans before the Oldham game where he also said that he had confronted Duchatelet about the situation.

    The club has no CEO but the Finance Director is working their notice until the end of February (suggesting they had a three month notice period and so resigned at the beginning of December, the same time as the CEO). Why they had to serve three months and Meire only one month is another unknown.

    The team, meanwhile, is one point from the 6th and final play-off place having now played its game in hand while other teams were involved in the FA Cup.

    There are two bidders left in the process. I have been told the identity of one, i haven't got any info on the other bid.
    Without naming names, are they Aussies/Arabs/Scots/Bokkies/English/mates of Roland/none of these? *delete as applicable
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Can't say, sorry
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    Redhenry said:

    So in summary where are we now with the takeover?

    The theory that "nothing is happening" has been blown out of the water. That has been proved incorrect and totally false.

    There are multiple parties who have expressed an interest.

    The identities of the potential buyers are not all known.

    Informed sources suggest that one is Australian Andrew Muir. This is not believed to be the same as the AFC Australian consortium bid that started this thread.

    Some sources claim that Muir's partner, a Greek-Australian, has pulled out and that the Muir bid is now either on the shelf or has been pulled completely. Muir is the only bidder believed to have completed DD.

    Other bidders' identity are not known although there has been no reliable evidence that Red Bull or Peter Varney are or have been involved.

    @Redhenry suggested a possible Middle Eastern bid as well as a bid from someone "trusted" by Duchatelet. Who this is isn't clear.

    On Saturday, former Rangers, and perhaps more interestingly Genk, manager Alex McLeish was entertained by director Richard Murray and given prime seats in the directors box where our departed CEO used to sit.

    With McLeish was Donald Muir (no relation to Andrew Muir of Australian bid fame) a financier with links to various heavyweight trust funds and banks. The third person in the party remains unknown.

    Some sources have suggested a South African connection via Donald Muir and McLeish but again this hasn't been verified.

    Meanwhile, Karl Robinson has expressed his frustration that he is not able to sign any players while the takeover continues to the media on Thursday and after the Oldham win. He also expressed his frustration in much stronger terms to fans before the Oldham game where he also said that he had confronted Duchatelet about the situation.

    The club has no CEO but the Finance Director is working their notice until the end of February (suggesting they had a three month notice period and so resigned at the beginning of December, the same time as the CEO). Why they had to serve three months and Meire only one month is another unknown.

    The team, meanwhile, is one point from the 6th and final play-off place having now played its game in hand while other teams were involved in the FA Cup.

    There are two bidders left in the process. I have been told the identity of one, i haven't got any info on the other bid.
    @Redhenry How excited are you on a scale of 1-5 (5 being very) regarding the bid you know about?
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Anyway, back to the important stuff about DooDoo Doo...Dah Dah Dah that’s all I want to say to you.
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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    We will all have to wait and see.
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    Redhenry said:

    But RD is also loaded and he has been awful.

    Are they more loaded than RD? If so, by how much roughly?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Redhenry said:

    We will all have to wait and see.

    I keep telling them that but they won't believe me : - )

    Also, just as bidders can drop out it is possible that new parties can make their interest known.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Redhenry said:

    We will all have to wait and see.

    I keep telling them that but they won't believe me : - )

    Also, just as bidders can drop out it is possible that new parties can make their interest known.
    WIOTOW?
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    edited January 2018
    Cracked it.

    "Can't say, sorry" is an anagram of Carson Y Trays, the American entrepreneur and inventor of a flat, shallow container with a raised rim, typically used for carrying food and drink.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    haha, richer than RD
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    JamesSeed said:

    Redhenry said:

    We will all have to wait and see.

    I keep telling them that but they won't believe me : - )

    Also, just as bidders can drop out it is possible that new parties can make their interest known.
    WIOTOW?
    See, people get so excited they can't even get WIOTOS correct : - )
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    Macronate said:

    Cracked it.

    "Can't say, sorry" is an anagram of Carson Y Trays, the American entrepreneur and inventor of a flat, shallow container with a raised rim, typically used for carrying food and drink.

    Well if he turns out to be the sort of owner we want, i’m definitely in for buying one of those tray whaddymicallit thingys he’s come up with, they sound great for balancing a bovril and half time snack :smile:
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    Redhenry said:

    haha, richer than RD

    Significantly richer?
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