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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Soapbox Sam confirms rumours of Chinese buyers.soapboxsam said:Being stuck on this circle line of Chinese whispers is making me travel sick. I've just passed Sloane square for the 530 time.
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Source = any diary.JamesSeed said:
Source?Fumbluff said:
I can confirm that this Thursday/Friday is towards the end of this week.flyingkiwiDK said:I have a hunch that we might see some positive movement in relation to the takeover towards the end of this week. My best guess is Thursday/Friday.
I’ve also heard that we’re down to just one interested party now.
How come you're in the know with a name like @Fumbluff !?0 -
You must be one of the West London Addicks Meire was going on about then.soapboxsam said:Being stuck on this circle line of Chinese whispers is making me travel sick. I've just passed Sloane square for the 530 time.
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Shame his dad never pulled out 70 odd years ago.JamesSeed said:
This.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up
). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
I am me, and I'm worried that all parties call his bluff and pull out25 -
i think its all part of a crazy experiment to see if you can run a football club with as few executive staff as possible ..i expect the programme seller to be picking the team by august2
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The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.4
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Pull out of what? The driveway? Another deal? I assure you sirs I do not understand this comment.blackpool72 said:
Shame his dad never pulled out 70 odd years ago.JamesSeed said:
This.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up ). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
I am me, and I'm worried that all parties call his bluff and pull out1 -
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.8 -
Think contraception @Dazzler21.Dazzler21 said:
Pull out of what? The driveway? Another deal? I assure you sirs I do not understand this comment.blackpool72 said:
Shame his dad never pulled out 70 odd years ago.JamesSeed said:
This.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up ). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
I am me, and I'm worried that all parties call his bluff and pull out
And if you still don't get it, ask someone else to explain it. I'm to old to be doing that sh*te again. 8 -
I would ask myself, am I asking too much?cafcfan1990 said:
I completely agree about the bluffing and that has always been a concern.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up ). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
We might not be Harrods or Arsenal but in fairness, we are still talking about a lot of money. If you were selling your house for 300k and two people offered 250k, I think most of us would use the two interested parties to drive up the price.1 - Sponsored links:
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But...as a Guinness drinker - you are probably infinitely more sensible than someone who has consumed copious amounts of Duvel...at 8.5% proof...guinnessaddick said:
I would ask myself, am I asking too much?cafcfan1990 said:
I completely agree about the bluffing and that has always been a concern.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up ). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
We might not be Harrods or Arsenal but in fairness, we are still talking about a lot of money. If you were selling your house for 300k and two people offered 250k, I think most of us would use the two interested parties to drive up the price.
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He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.1 -
Roland prefers the District Line but he is currently stuck at Dagenham East, 3 stops on from Barkingsoapboxsam said:Being stuck on this circle line of Chinese whispers is making me travel sick. I've just passed Sloane square for the 530 time.
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Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.0 -
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It's even one of the worst takeovers in takeover history.Pelling1993 said:
This must be the worst takeover in football historyAirman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
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Can anyone tell me the rent I should charge if anyone lands on the house I have in Park Lane?1
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Amanda Staveley told me her Middle East investors pulled out of the Newcastle bid cos Mike Ashley because he was asking too much!! So people do walk away0
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Ashley's gamble is that Newcastle will stay up, and he will get a better price. Get relegated and the value of the club will crashTaxi_Lad said:Amanda Staveley told me her Middle East investors pulled out of the Newcastle bid cos Mike Ashley because he was asking too much!! So people do walk away
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Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
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I’d prefer owners that can smell a bullshit con merchant like douchetalet a mile off.Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
Oh the horrible irony of that.5 - Sponsored links:
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I think this is the nail on the head, you've far from missed it, Missed It.Missed It said:Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.
And this is why my gut is telling me this saga still has a long time to run.7 -
I bet they were hopping mad ..:Airman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
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"Oh xxxx" they said._MrDick said:
I bet they were hopping mad ..:Airman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
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They must think he's very Roo-de_MrDick said:
I bet they were hopping mad ..:Airman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
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I'd have thought that the last four years demonstrated that Roly's was the worst takeover in football history.Pelling1993 said:
This must be the worst takeover in football historyAirman Brown said:The Aussies were very unhappy with Murray's statement that the price had been agreed with a second party, I'm told.
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agreed, but would you go back and say ok I am asking for too much, just pay me 250k. Or would you try and get 275 and use the two interested parties to get it?guinnessaddick said:
I would ask myself, am I asking too much?cafcfan1990 said:
I completely agree about the bluffing and that has always been a concern.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I could understand your point if he was selling Harrods or a market leader like err Arsenal (cafcfan1990 said:
I don’t think anyone can blame him for trying to get the best price for the club.i_b_b_o_r_g said:How do people like Rolly make the best part of 500 million while being such a fuckin dinlow, or is everyone missing something?
The blokes a complete prick and his valuation was way too high admittedly, but he’s clearly taken the gamble to create a bidding war.
It was always going to come to which party will be be the most patient with his gameplan.
From what I was told recently, he’s been trying to add money on if we were promoted. I now genuinely believe we won’t be sold until he knows we can’t go up ). But we're a 3rd tier football club so I would've thought he's lucky to get any interest, specially at his asking price. If it were me, I'd be worried of all parties calling my bluff and pulling out
We might not be Harrods or Arsenal but in fairness, we are still talking about a lot of money. If you were selling your house for 300k and two people offered 250k, I think most of us would use the two interested parties to drive up the price.0 -
Regardless of the price wanted, once an agreement is reached between a buyer and a seller, any attempt by either party to renegotiate the price is out of order. That is assuming the price agreed is after surveys / valuations have been completed.
However we don't know what the agreement between the Aussies and Duche is. Obviously not enough to take the business out of the sale process.0 -
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.Missed It said:Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.2 -
It might be out of order, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. Until the sale is concluded anything can happen.johnny73 said:Regardless of the price wanted, once an agreement is reached between a buyer and a seller, any attempt by either party to renegotiate the price is out of order. That is assuming the price agreed is after surveys / valuations have been completed.
However we don't know what the agreement between the Aussies and Duche is. Obviously not enough to take the business out of the sale process.1 -
It doesn't matter what he wants it to look like, we know (and so does every bugger else) that he wouldn't be selling now if it wasn't for the skillful campaign conducted by all factions of the protest movement.JamesSeed said:
He is interested in selling, but he doesn't want to be seen as losing to the protesters.Missed It said:Dazzler21 said:
Bell end behaviour and bullshittery confirmed.Missed It said:
He's not being a bit of a bell-end though is he? He's seems to be negotiating in bad faith. The price agreed with the Australians turns out not to be the price agreed as Roland appears to be trying to engineer some sort of outbidding/gazumping scenario with other buyers. I wouldn't blame them at all for walking away.Dazzler21 said:
Would you refuse to buy a genuinely one off thing that you really wanted, just because the current owner of the thing is a bit of a bell end?LargeAddick said:The Aussies being pissed off isn't good news in my opinion. They have been in the process a long while so are obviously interested and committed and may be our best, nay only, hope. If they pull out we could be well and truly fucked for a while yet.
I wouldn't and if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
I shall re-iterate if they don't want us enough to overcome Duchatelet's bullshittery then they can move along too... I only want a genuine owner who 100% wants to invest in the club.
If you truly want the thing, the seller doesn't matter. You stick to your guns and re-iterate your price.
If the owner receives a higher offer from another potential buyer, then it sucks but you EITHER pay more for the thing you want as someone else is willing to pay more than you offered, or you let the thing go to someone who is willing to spend on it.
It's not a question of really, really wanting it. There are no billionaire Charlton fans who really, really want the club.
Any buyer is looking at this from a business perspective and the possible return on their investment. Paying for Roland's mistakes is not a good investment.
Roland isn't really interested in selling anyway, if he was the club would be priced to sell. All he's interested in is getting back the money he was foolish enough to give to Daisy to burn. He's in danger of losing all of the bidders in his ham-fisted attempts to screw more cash out of them.3
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