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What an absolute fucking disgrace. I don't know what it's going to take to get these people to understand - hold your phone in the landscape position!!!Uboat said:
Knocking lumps out of each other as usual.51 -
ForeverAddickted said:
That's it, I'm asking for a tax rebate.17 -
Wasn’t her majesty Dame Brady trying to cosy up to the ICF earlier this week? Bound to end well0
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Arsenals move to the emirates was a success imo.NapaAddick said:West Ham and Arsenal (and I believe soon, Tottenham, too) are all evidence that leaving a stadium that is the heart of the club and going to a bigger, shiny new one with higher attendances, does not usually result in greater success on the pitch, nor does it make for a happier fan base.
Financially they're in a pretty good position and on the pitch they're not half bad either even if their fans want you to think they're being really hard done by.3 -
West ham fans were well behaved until PragueAddick started winding them up.
See what you have done Prague.
ICF at Gatwick now.
Be prepared:)6 -
Not sure if it's been posted here already but read this the other day and shows what a shambles they're in behind the scenes pretty well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-united-board-protest-march-meetings-hooligans-icf-action-group-a8244951.html
Shocking really.2 -
I’ve learned as I get older not to gloat at the misfortunes of others but I make an exception in Wet Sham’s Case. Please let them get relegated. Please. Please. I’ll be a good boy.8
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JBG and Pope must be thinking here we go again. At least they don't have to play that lit again this year.1
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West Ham have agreed to pay for additional stewards to protect the corner flag
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I can confirm that the rabble in front of the directors box on the concourse were throwing bottles and coins at the owners. (By a reliable source who was in the firing line) I guess money goes to money.AFKABartram said:All seems a bit exaggerated. One or two idiots on the pitch, and a concourse gathering of pointing and shouting about 50yds away from the directors box.
Lack of stewards is the main issue there3 - Sponsored links:
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Best tweet of the day. A fan ran onto the pitch when they went 1-0 down. By the time he actually got there, they were 2-0 down.47
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Mugs. I land right in their manor. London City.blackpool72 said:West ham fans were well behaved until PragueAddick started winding them up.
See what you have done Prague.
ICF at Gatwick now.
Be prepared:)
As you take off the plane banks right over the stadium. Just can't resist lifting a finger.
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heard it was Red bullsoapboxsam said:
I can confirm that the rabble in front of the directors box on the concourse were throwing bottles and coins at the owners. (By a reliable source who was in the firing line) I guess money goes to money.AFKABartram said:All seems a bit exaggerated. One or two idiots on the pitch, and a concourse gathering of pointing and shouting about 50yds away from the directors box.
Lack of stewards is the main issue there0 -
Well, their own fans don't think it's much of a success. No titles since the move. Much higher prices. Mainly tourists in the stands. And will be out of top 4 the last two seasons.Leeds_Addick said:
Arsenals move to the emirates was a success imo.NapaAddick said:West Ham and Arsenal (and I believe soon, Tottenham, too) are all evidence that leaving a stadium that is the heart of the club and going to a bigger, shiny new one with higher attendances, does not usually result in greater success on the pitch, nor does it make for a happier fan base.
Financially they're in a pretty good position and on the pitch they're not half bad either even if their fans want you to think they're being really hard done by.
Compare that to the years before the move.
I agree financially they are better off but that only pleases the owner. I frankly don't care how happy owners are with their profits when it comes at the expense of clubs living up to their potential.
They don't make trophy cases at stadiums of the winner of the P&L derby.2 -
Pope pulled off some decent saves3
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Very interesting and very bleak. Especially glad I don't support them having read that.Leeds_Addick said:Not sure if it's been posted here already but read this the other day and shows what a shambles they're in behind the scenes pretty well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-united-board-protest-march-meetings-hooligans-icf-action-group-a8244951.html
Shocking really.
Sections on the Lads March stood out for me, but I got called a fascist for daring to question that so I won't say any more.2 -
Shocking Moobs!Uboat said:
Knocking lumps out of each other as usual.7 -
I went to the West Ham game today as my mate had a spare ticket. Was toxic to say the least, it was very strange as it almost seemed like there 'fans' couldn't wait to start complaining, West Ham were very good in the first half and should have been 2 up, but went off at HT to jeers and boos. I believe they would've had a chance to salvage something from the game if the morons had not stormed the pitch, but they fell apart after that.
The stewards and security were bloody awful too, the first few invaders were on the pitch for ages before anyone reacted to them and about 10 people ran on the pitch and then went and sat back in their seats...2 -
Watching it on MOTD, I can't imagine the toxic atmosphere will exactly encourage the "families and tourists" the owners would like to see come to watch West Ham play now...1
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I had a chat with a west ham fan on the tube on my way to Orient.
He believes west ham will be given the stadium as no one else can do anything with it and that will solve the controversy around the stadium and save the tax payer money.
He sits in the lower Bobby Moore stand. This confused me as he had said demolition work on the Boleyn started the day after they moved out. Fear not, they named a new stand in the new stadium the Bobby Moore, and he has a seat in the lower tier there.
Decent bloke. Shame about his football club.
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West Ham fans think they will be given the stadium? Seriously?0
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Maybe they are counting on no one in London wasting taxpayer money?seth plum said:West Ham fans think they will be given the stadium? Seriously?
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But the source of this information was so reliable; it was a man on the tube!seth plum said:West Ham fans think they will be given the stadium? Seriously?
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"In the approved business case, there was a forecast operating surplus in excess of £3m for the stadium, before repair and maintenance expenditure.NapaAddick said:
Maybe they are counting on no one in London wasting taxpayer money?seth plum said:West Ham fans think they will be given the stadium? Seriously?
This has not materialised, and instead [the stadium] is faced with substantial deficits. The cumulative forecast deficit over the first ten years is expected to be in excess of £140m. The March 2017 business plan forecasts the annual deficit to be as high as £20m in 2018, with the most positive year still expected to result in a deficit in excess of £10m".
Accountants Moore Stephens Olympic Stadium Review - November 2017
https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/olympic-stadium-review.pdf4 -
When questioned about the nature of the contract West Ham have with the stadium, Brady answered 'it is what it is'.
I hope the stadium operators pour over the contract and then make it that it isn't what it is.8 -
I disagree with your view that new stadia don't work. Sure, you've picked a few examples where things have gone badly/less well and West Ham's athletics stadium is not fit for football but that's bad management/choices not the stadium's fault. Blaming new stadia seems like a fatuous argument to me and one that doesn't stand scrutiny.NapaAddick said:
Well, their own fans don't think it's much of a success. No titles since the move. Much higher prices. Mainly tourists in the stands. And will be out of top 4 the last two seasons.Leeds_Addick said:
Arsenals move to the emirates was a success imo.NapaAddick said:West Ham and Arsenal (and I believe soon, Tottenham, too) are all evidence that leaving a stadium that is the heart of the club and going to a bigger, shiny new one with higher attendances, does not usually result in greater success on the pitch, nor does it make for a happier fan base.
Financially they're in a pretty good position and on the pitch they're not half bad either even if their fans want you to think they're being really hard done by.
Compare that to the years before the move.
I agree financially they are better off but that only pleases the owner. I frankly don't care how happy owners are with their profits when it comes at the expense of clubs living up to their potential.
They don't make trophy cases at stadiums of the winner of the P&L derby.
Here's some other examples of where it's gone okay (or much better than okay): Man City leaving Maine Road; Arsenal's move from the Manor Ground to Highbury; Huddersfield's new stadium; Swansea, vacating the toxic Vetch Field; Leicester City's move from Filbert Street; Brighton (eventually); even Southampton (arguably?). I'd say there's more examples of clubs kicking on or enjoying their time in the sun that they otherwise would than there are of clubs failing in a new ground (when they would actually have more chance of failing if they'd stayed in their old ground anyway, for example Roker and Ayresome Parks).
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It was my anecdote. Yes, sample of one man on the tube but what is shows is that the idea that they will be given the stadium ('to save tax payers money') is out there. And if one has it others will too. It hides the fact that it was a stadium built with tax payers money and tax payers continue to subsidise running costs.Bangkokaddick said:
But the source of this information was so reliable; it was a man on the tube!seth plum said:West Ham fans think they will be given the stadium? Seriously?
Prague Addick and colleagues are exposing and challenging this (other thread), but meanwhile one west ham fan at least (thousands more I'd guess) has swallowed some propaganda and thinks giving them the stadium now is the best solution.0
