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Spurs should have consulted their fans through survey monkey before announcing those prices.
Something like, “tick yes if you want high prices and us to go for Champions League 4th place and only sell Alli, and tick no if you want us to sell Kane and Erickson and Alli and finish mid table but have cheaper tickets.
Maybe also arrange the seats and instead of spelling Spurs they could spell a random word, ie one side says ‘Levy’ the other ‘Lewis’.16 -
I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.
The reality is seasons like this have happened to loads of clubs and do every season. Swansea have made a massive transfer profit the last couple of seasons and not refreshed their squad. Guess where they are. West Brom didn't buy the right players and tried to fix it with a known failure in management. Guess where they are. Southampton's genius strategy of running a footballer carousel eventually broke down, which it was always going to eventually when they had a bad transfer window and no players left over willing to dig in. Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people. West Ham are just another story of not investing enough in the squad, not giving the manager the players he wants and then looking shocked when they lose football matches. Sure, the Olympic Stadium doesn't have the retractable seats they were promised, sure the stewarding is shit (should that really be as massive a problem as it is anyway?), but ultimately the fans are behaving like nutcases over having a crap season and using the stadium move as a justification for a massively over the top reaction. Meanwhile we're being aggressively torn to shreds by an owner who doesn't even care enough to allow permanent signings anymore, is just content to watch us sink lower and lower waiting for someone to pay him back the cost of his years of mistakes, Blackpool are essentially being trolled at executive level by owners who are genuinely focused on making the fanbase suffer while they asset strip the club, and Coventry are being pulled apart by an ownership and a council that despise them in equal measures. I know one team in this story is Premier League and the others aren't but the sheer amount of hand-wringing articles talking about the soul of East London and the spirit of Bobby Moore (won the World Cup by the way; did anyone know that??) compared to the coverage of clubs actually being dragged to their graves is just miserable.
Plus, and the most annoying thing of all, this pitch invasion upsets me on a personal level. Get off the bloody pitch. Put down the corner flag. I fucking paid for that!44 -
Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back eitherGarrymanilow said:I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.
Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.
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How the times change.
Was it only two years ago that the many West Ham fans that I know, neighbours and friends were all singing from the same hymn sheet about how the move to the Olympic stadium was going to catapult West Ham into the big time. Indeed one person actually believed that the move was going change West Ham’s fortunes so greatly that they would become the next Man City.
They were all bragging about how they had been given the best stadium in the UK for nothing and how the taxpayer was supporting them. Indeed my neighbour even suggested that they should have the Conservative’s as a shirt sponsor!
The reason that I dislike West Ham so much is because of their arrogant fan base. More than one of my friends suggested that I should switch allegiance from Charlton to West Ham and support a proper club.
Last night I was with a few West Ham fans and they were all consoling each other about how they should never have moved from Upton Park, and how bad it was at the Olympic Stadium, the owners only moved for the money, etc.
When I reminded them that was not they were saying two years ago they didn’t like it. I got the usual abuse about supporting Charlton, but my parting words were that at least Charlton own the Valley, whereas West Ham don’t own a ground they are tenants who have signed a 99 year lease for the Olympic stadium and there is nowhere else for them to play.11 -
Frankly don't know what they are moaning about. The West Ham fans I know love the new stadium and the variety of food outlets and bars nearby. They have a low opinion of the owners, but they had that view before the club moved to Stratford, and reckon that team development has been going downhill for several years now (what's happened to the fabled football academy?) For all the loud noise coming out of West Ham, I am more perturbed by the 'right on' club in Bermondsey who are quietly moving into a place off berth in the Championship.1
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People may mock Chelsea for the Academy kids they bring through but are West Ham any better - they've got Declan Rice playing quite often at the moment yet you surely have to go back to Mark Noble who's become a regular from there?Dugdaleclass said:Frankly don't know what they are moaning about. The West Ham fans I know love the new stadium and the variety of food outlets and bars nearby. They have a low opinion of the owners, but they had that view before the club moved to Stratford, and reckon that team development has been going downhill for several years now (what's happened to the fabled football academy?) For all the loud noise coming out of West Ham, I am more perturbed by the 'right on' club in Bermondsey who are quietly moving into a place off berth in the Championship.
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No sympathy for them and not sure why anyone else has either.
I don’t remember many of them up in arms about the originally. As some have said, they just seem to protesting as they’re having a bad season0 -
That’s one way of looking at it. On the other hand, West Ham moved from a fairly modern ground to a brand new one with better facilities and a larger capacity (in terms of actual increase, West Ham have increased their capacity by 4,679 seats more than Saints), all for the cost of a peppercorn rent on a 99 year lease, where the facilities are funded by the taxpayer. They then sold their old ground for £40m. That alone funds their ‘rent’ for the next 16 years. Saints spent £32m on their stadium and have to pay for silly little things like stewarding, pitch maintenance and corner flags. Incidentally, West Ham sold out 50,000 season tickets by May 2016, so it didn’t seem like the fans were too troubled by thoughts of a return there.killerandflash said:
Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back eitherGarrymanilow said:I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.
Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.3 -
I am enjoying their grubby little directors finally getting the abuse they deserve.
I hope they end up groundsharing with Leyton Orient and the London Stafium is bulldozed.3 - Sponsored links:
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What a shame Orient weren't taken over by a very ambitious billionaire & had bought Upton park from the porn baronsIdleHans said:I am enjoying their grubby little directors finally getting the abuse they deserve.
I hope they end up groundsharing with Leyton Orient and the London Stafium is bulldozed.
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While West Ham got a financial bargain, I wouldn't say they got better facilities than Upton Park though. I'll be fascinated to see what their attendance will be without PL footballGarrymanilow said:
That’s one way of looking at it. On the other hand, West Ham moved from a fairly modern ground to a brand new one with better facilities and a larger capacity (in terms of actual increase, West Ham have increased their capacity by 4,679 seats more than Saints), all for the cost of a peppercorn rent on a 99 year lease, where the facilities are funded by the taxpayer. They then sold their old ground for £40m. That alone funds their ‘rent’ for the next 16 years. Saints spent £32m on their stadium and have to pay for silly little things like stewarding, pitch maintenance and corner flags. Incidentally, West Ham sold out 50,000 season tickets by May 2016, so it didn’t seem like the fans were too troubled by thoughts of a return there.killerandflash said:
Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back eitherGarrymanilow said:I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.
Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.0 -
If (when) they go down surely there won't be the need for the temporary seating?
That will save us (taxpayers) some money. Or will they insist on it staying as the rest of the seating is a million miles from the pitch.1 -
Released James Collins a player of 12 years via email
Disgraceful.
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A friend of mine supports West Ham and it’s been mooted that the fans were going to try and set up their own testimonial game for him.paulie8290 said:Released James Collins a player of 12 years via email
Disgraceful.
I reckon West Ham will come to their senses eventually and do the testimonial - however if I was Collins l’d tell them to piss off. Disgraceful way to treat a player.
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I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.0
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Like when Poyet found out he was sacked whilst he was doing coverage on BBC and BBC got the statement from Brightonkillerandflash said:I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.
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Email, so old fashioned. They should have tweeted it.8
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Tweeting it, so baggy, WhatsApp is the way.SomervilleAddick said:Email, so old fashioned. They should have tweeted it.
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14th richest club in the world. You would think they could pay for their own stewards!1
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For those that forgot itpaulie8290 said:
Like when Poyet found out he was sacked whilst he was doing coverage on BBC and BBC got the statement from Brightonkillerandflash said:I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.
https://youtu.be/BdF4oHzHr8A 0 -
Declan Rice
Do we do everything we can to get him in our squad
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Do we say na let Ireland have him0 -
paulie8290 said:
Declan Rice
Do we do everything we can to get him in our squad
Or
Do we say na let Ireland have him
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West Ham United say staying in the Premier League is "an absolute necessity" after posting financial losses of £27.26m.
Despite spending more than £130m on transfers, and £214.4m in the last four years, they are only above the Premier League drop zone on goal difference.
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Please please please they go down. Please.22
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Even if they nick Bowyer and Cullen?BrentfordAddick said:Please please please they go down. Please.0 -
And despite being subsidised by you and I to the tune of £15-£20m p.a. for the stadium, even while they pocket all the revenue from hospitality.clive said:West Ham United say staying in the Premier League is "an absolute necessity" after posting financial losses of £27.26m.
Despite spending more than £130m on transfers, and £214.4m in the last four years, they are only above the Premier League drop zone on goal difference.
All with agreement of the current Prime Minister.
Never forget.22 -
Watching Sunday Supplement this week and Matt Law mentioned that they only have 1 scout, their training ground is made up of pitches and portacabins, and Moyes was only allowed to bring in one member of back room staff himself.
Problems right at the bottom, as well as the fact that Sullivan and Gold try to do everything on the cheap when bringing in players. Matt Law also mentioned that their ownership of Birmingham City saw similar issues in terms of investment of the stadium etc.
Their own doing and I hope they go down.
However, I do have some (a tiny little bit) sympathy for their fans after all of the false promises and losing a proper football stadium.
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If you've time to spare have a look at the KUMB forum. Really amused me. The fans seem to have woken up to the fact they are stuck in a soulless bowl. Big protests planned 😂😂😂0
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Other clubs like Burnley have used the PL money to invest heavily in their training groundsRoss said:Watching Sunday Supplement this week and Matt Law mentioned that they only have 1 scout, their training ground is made up of pitches and portacabins, and Moyes was only allowed to bring in one member of back room staff himself.
Problems right at the bottom, as well as the fact that Sullivan and Gold try to do everything on the cheap when bringing in players. Matt Law also mentioned that their ownership of Birmingham City saw similar issues in terms of investment of the stadium etc.
Their own doing and I hope they go down.
However, I do have some (a tiny little bit) sympathy for their fans after all of the false promises and losing a proper football stadium.
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