Charlton 0 Fleetwood 0 - Post Match Thoughts
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I know there were only 15 people in the crowd but did any of the other 14 think Ajose was on side. He started behind the full back and out paced him?2
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My initial reaction was onside, but I wasn't side on to know for sure.Todds_right_hook said:I know there were only 15 people in the crowd but did any of the other 14 think Ajose was on side. He started behind the full back and out paced him?
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Not sure, but he knew he'd been flagged offside I think. Not sure he would have been so cool with the finish if he hadn't.Todds_right_hook said:I know there were only 15 people in the crowd but did any of the other 14 think Ajose was on side. He started behind the full back and out paced him?
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Yes it was a cute finish, but the keeper had stopped anywayJamesSeed said:
Not sure, but he knew he'd been flagged offside I think. Not sure he would have been so cool with the finish if he hadn't.Todds_right_hook said:I know there were only 15 people in the crowd but did any of the other 14 think Ajose was on side. He started behind the full back and out paced him?
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https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5aad5f95182dd/robinson-on-a-lack-of-cutting-edge-in-a-0-0-draw-with-fleetwood-town
On formation
"I thought Nicky and Michal looked good as a two up front. We played two systems today and got the same outcome. We went to 4-4-2 and it was the same."
Maybe try starting games that way and give it longer than 30 minutes Karl.19 -
No we didn't - but the point is you need 3 points so you take risks. So yes, courage involves risk - some have it and some don't! Against a team like Fleetwood it is a calculated risk.Oggy Red said:
We did that against Oxford, 2-1 up in the 88th minute.MuttleyCAFC said:With twenty minutes to go defensively strong ought to go out the window when you need 3 points!
Defensively strong did go out of the window!
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Now that ive thawed out i can give my reasoned views to this afternoons "entertainment"......
What a load of fucking shit.7 -
Very poor.
The only slight thing was that I thought Zyro and Ajose should enough together to deserve a start together as a pair next week. I suspect most people there agreed. Almost everyone it seems except Robbo who has already written off the idea. Even if he does double track and play it, it hardly fills the confidence when he says this sort of thing does it. He's just waiting for his payoff now.0 -
I think Ajose and Magennis could work with Zyro (prefer Mav though) and Fosu playing wide - at home against poorer teams that is.0
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Soon after going to 442, he then took off Marshall, a conventional winger who's strength is getting crosses into the box, maybe Ajose could have got on the end of one...Scoham said:https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5aad5f95182dd/robinson-on-a-lack-of-cutting-edge-in-a-0-0-draw-with-fleetwood-town
On formation
"I thought Nicky and Michal looked good as a two up front. We played two systems today and got the same outcome. We went to 4-4-2 and it was the same."
Maybe try starting games that way and give it longer than 30 minutes Karl.1 -
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Now home, thawed out & had a kebab. so here's my take on this afternoon............
Absolute rubbish. I've never seen a side so bereft of ideas & with the first thought to pass backwards or sideways. At times JFC was playing as an extra defender he was so deep. Started brightly but faded after 25 mins & from then on is was turgid. Good move to go 4-4-2, but why take off Magennis ??? Ajose looked sharp & was always available, but again played too deep at times. Sarr was a decent deputy at LB & made some great clearances (especially in the 1st half) but unfortunately doesn't have the skill to do anything with the ball going forward (but then he is a defender & so I can't moan at him for that). Aribo tried to go forward with it, as did Fosu, but the latter is a shadow of his pre-injury form. Kaikai offered v.little going forward but did get stuck in defensively. Bauer & Pearce both solid, although Pearce did dwell on the ball once too often which nearly (and should have) led to a goal for Fleetwood.
As for the game...........rubbish corners & hopeless in front of goal. I could have played in goal for Fleetwood and not conceded. That is now 1 goal in the last 4 games. 1st clean sheet for Fleetwood this calendar year (10/12 games ?) which followed Blackpool's first win at home for 5 months. We are abysmal & the sooner KR leaves the better. I see he is now blaming Bowyer & JJ for the lack of goals....wtf ?? he brought the players in, he takes the training sessions, he picks the team. The buck stops with him. When the team was announced at 2pm me & Golfie Jnr agreed that we had a great team on paper (for this league) and if they could not beat the 4th from bottom side AT HOME then there is something very wrong. Not only did we not win, but we didn't score or even look like troubling their goalkeeper. We could have played until midnight & still not scored. I have no idea was goes on every week during training but I suggest that a coaching badge is not worth the paper its written on.
Clueless.19 -
Pretty dire stuff that matched the snow drizzle.0
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Trying to be objective: frustrating game in dire weather not actually a terrible result - I think we're unbeaten so far in all 10 games against the bottom 6 sides, which is what a team aiming at promotion would expect.
Our trouble is dropping points everywhere else. Walsall (a) + Oxford U (a) + Blackpool (h) + Oxford U (h) + Doncaster R (a) + Blackpool (a) all come to mind. We really should have had an additional 11 points from those fixtures alone. (And I'm not even mentioning both Gillingham matches). Had Robinson been able to gather those we would be in a comfortable play-off spot. But....I've seen enough of his set up and style to conclude (for some months) that he isn't up to doing that.
As for the team we put out on the day I thought Amos was OK, Sarr had a good match, Pearce and Bauer both OK, Konsa v. average (does anyone really think him worth £8m?) + we looked good in midfield but, as usual, couldn't score because we don't have an automatic goal scorer in our squad. At best Magennis is a supporting striker. He can't carry the line by himself. In so far as they had a chance I thought the Zyro + Ajose partnership looked quite positive.
Looks like the new owner will happen - at some point. We need a new manager, but, not convinced about new players across the board. A new manager might get more out of this lot.1 -
I though Zyro looked the better target man?MuttleyCAFC said:I think Ajose and Magennis could work with Zyro (prefer Mav though) and Fosu playing wide - at home against poorer teams that is.
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Goodbye Karl thanks for the memories nah not really fuckoff5
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For a man who stated that the buck stops with the Manager, he is again blaming everything and everybody bar him . I really wanted to give him a chance at the start of the season but he really is useless and needs to find alternative employment.6
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The only time we went forward was after about 30 mins when the small crowd got on the players backs, lasted 5 minutes.0
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Looking at that picture just makes me sad.I didn't bother today after last week.my next game will be Portsmouth...on the piss.swords_alive said:My thoughts- Mogodon's great picture in the match thread
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Sorry but you are not being objective comparing us with 10 games unbeaten against bottom sides.simonmatthews said:Trying to be objective: frustrating game in dire weather not actually a terrible result - I think we're unbeaten so far in all 10 games against the bottom 6 sides, which is what a team aiming at promotion would expect.
Our trouble is dropping points everywhere else. Walsall (a) + Oxford U (a) + Blackpool (h) + Oxford U (h) + Doncaster R (a) + Blackpool (a) all come to mind. We really should have had an additional 11 points from those fixtures alone. (And I'm not even mentioning both Gillingham matches). Had Robinson been able to gather those we would be in a comfortable play-off spot. But....I've seen enough of his set up and style to conclude (for some months) that he isn't up to doing that.
As for the team we put out on the day I thought Amos was OK, Sarr had a good match, Pearce and Bauer both OK, Konsa v. average (does anyone really think him worth £8m?) + we looked good in midfield but, as usual, couldn't score because we don't have an automatic goal scorer in our squad. At best Magennis is a supporting striker. He can't carry the line by himself. In so far as they had a chance I thought the Zyro + Ajose partnership looked quite positive.
Looks like the new owner will happen - at some point. We need a new manager, but, not convinced about new players across the board. A new manager might get more out of this lot.
The reality is we are a bottom 6 side (on form)
We are 19th in the league last 6 games.
Fleetwood??
23rd....
Spin it how you wish, we are just not very good.1 -
i really think its time for jacko to be given a go - everyone is bored to death of the predictability of it all now - go 442 and give jfc and magennis a rest - nothing to lose - this 4231 crap is going nowhere1
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That’s because he was moving rather than standing on the spot and he had Ajose to double up with. I thought Ajose actually looked like a hungry striker today. I’d start him next game but only if he’s got somebody up there with himJamesSeed said:
I though Zyro looked the better target man?MuttleyCAFC said:I think Ajose and Magennis could work with Zyro (prefer Mav though) and Fosu playing wide - at home against poorer teams that is.
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Played 442 in the second half. Would Jacko want it? I doubt it.DOUCHER said:i really think its time for jacko to be given a go - everyone is bored to death of the predictability of it all now - go 442 and give jfc and magennis a rest - nothing to lose - this 4231 crap is going nowhere
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All of you moaning about 4231 on here
should have made the effort to go & the gate might have broken the 5000 mark5 -
don't know but why not? great experience, rd on his way out - a chance to give this season one last go, get fans on side - seems a no brainer to meJamesSeed said:
Played 442 in the second half. Would Jacko want it? I doubt it.DOUCHER said:i really think its time for jacko to be given a go - everyone is bored to death of the predictability of it all now - go 442 and give jfc and magennis a rest - nothing to lose - this 4231 crap is going nowhere
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we were more of a threat second half that's for sure2
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I think our game plan consists of start fast and try and get a goal in the first ten mins of a half. If that doesn’t happen our energy level and attacking intent drops and the other team plays their way into the half.DOUCHER said:we were more of a threat second half that's for sure
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agreed but we never do score early on. the only difference to the normal pattern today was that the oppo didn't score late on. mavidivi coming back is our only chance - that and dropping magennis and jfc and playing zyro, ajose and i thought kalkai put his body onm the line today and just needs a break. fosu and mavidivi r mustard and if fit and we get the rest right, there is a chance this season. bauer is key as well.AFKABartram said:
I think our game plan consists of start fast and try and get a goal in the first ten mins of a half. If that doesn’t happen our energy level and attacking intent drops Andy the other team plays their way into the half.DOUCHER said:we were more of a threat second half that's for sure
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If I was Jacko I'd run a mile if asked to manage this sorry lot.DOUCHER said:i really think its time for jacko to be given a go - everyone is bored to death of the predictability of it all now - go 442 and give jfc and magennis a rest - nothing to lose - this 4231 crap is going nowhere
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He can’t - his legs have gone.Bedsaddick said:
If I was Jacko I'd run a mile if asked to manage this sorry lot.DOUCHER said:i really think its time for jacko to be given a go - everyone is bored to death of the predictability of it all now - go 442 and give jfc and magennis a rest - nothing to lose - this 4231 crap is going nowhere
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Be lucky if we see another win this season1













