Karl Robinson (Ed. Page 79 - GONE- Mutual Consent)
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Think they'd all be beneficial to keep under a different manager.king addick said:Would have Euell ahead of JJ in terms of a Temp solution, Just due to Euells experience with the u23s. Obviously have JJ assisting with Bowyer though.
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Joint caretaker managers would be good. As long as they get on!0
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Is the person who said he definitely won’t be in charge Saturday the same one who had all the information on selling the club ? Robinson’s problem has been managing expectations. Some on here think we have some good players. The only good player we had went to Sheffield United. The rest are very average League 1 and League 2 players so Robinson has no chance.
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I disagree - Fosu is a terrific but raw player - Bauer, Pearce and Da Silva are defenders who would get into most teams. You could say the same for JFC and Kashi and then we have promising youngsters like Konsa (being courted by Premiership clubs) and Aribo. And Amos has looked decent this season! The problem is not the players we have, but possibly the players we don't have to provide the best balance!8
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Oh yeah 100%Dazzler21 said:
Think they'd all be beneficial to keep under a different manager.king addick said:Would have Euell ahead of JJ in terms of a Temp solution, Just due to Euells experience with the u23s. Obviously have JJ assisting with Bowyer though.
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Look at Neil Harris at Millwall, inner promotions can work.
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Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
We have fucked him up!6 -
You have a different idea of a "very good" scoring record to me. 8-10 goals a season in this league for your main striker is total gash imo.supaclive said:Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
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The whole club is currently a complete joke and in a tail spin. Who of us would seriously blame either JJ or Euell if they couldn’t perform miracles in the short term.Dazzler21 said:
Just NO.Covered_End_Lad said:Would like to see JJ + Euell as joint managers until the end of the season, Curbs+Gritt -esque.
I don't want any club legends taking charge in any capacity, unless it's under new ownership.
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I disagree - these players cannot pass a ball 10 yards. Fosu continually makes bad decisions. As for the rest, let’s see where they end up. Da Silva aside, I suspect none of them will play at a high level. The Konsa rumours were rumours.
We don’t even have a player who can take a free kick or corner.0 - Sponsored links:
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How many did he sign? I don't recall him signing one reliable and consistent footballer. Thank God Slade signed Magennis and Pearce, otherwise Robinson's diddy men might have had us in the bottom half all season.
It's great to play like Barcelona but you might need a few more actually reliable league one players. By that I mean the ones who fight to retain and press when it's the usual dour match. Not just Caskey, Reeves, Fosu-Henry, Marshall and Da Silva.2 -
Forster-Caskey takes an excellent free kick and corner.masicat said:I disagree - these players cannot pass a ball 10 yards. Fosu continually makes bad decisions. As for the rest, let’s see where they end up. Da Silva aside, I suspect none of them will play at a high level. The Konsa rumours were rumours.
We don’t even have a player who can take a free kick or corner.0 -
I totally accept that people don't rate KR and want him to go for their own reasons, but the increase in the amount of people on here slating him this morning, from yesterday even, seems very noticable.
Also, there seems to be more support for KR on the "active" unofficial Facebook Charlton groups, than what it Is on here, although there are still obviously folk who want him out on there too.
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Did you rate players such as Jenkinson, Francis, Fox and Pope? I agree some overrate our players but some will improve and progress as they always have done. We've had plenty that have been inconsistent or played when the club was a mess yet gone on to do well at a higher level. I don't see this group being any different, even if it's only 3 or 4 of them that make that step up.masicat said:I disagree - these players cannot pass a ball 10 yards. Fosu continually makes bad decisions. As for the rest, let’s see where they end up. Da Silva aside, I suspect none of them will play at a high level. The Konsa rumours were rumours.
We don’t even have a player who can take a free kick or corner.2 -
The story about the offer to resign changes everything.
I think Robinson has been misled by Duchatelet also he has weaknesses as a manager, then again most do.
Bowyer, Jackson and Euell are unknown quantities. I don't want the U23s messed about this season so I suppose it has to be Bowyer and Jacko with huge reservations.
Press day tomorrow god help us.0 -
I've wanted to Robinson to go for a while. But not because I think he has failed to give it a real go. I don't think he has got the best out of his players, and his adaptation to new circumstances is zero. But he has worked (by choice) under the regime from hell, and lets be honest, the injuries have been severe.
If he wants a pay out, fair play to him. I'd want one too. He's not the enemy, though his mouth has led him to side with them on occasion) but he's not the solution either.12 -
On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.BigRedEvil said:I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.
Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed
But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.0 -
Lennie Lawrence was promoted from Assistant manager and did an outstanding job - he only had caretaker experience in the top job at Plymouth before that.Richard J said:In my lifetime our best manager was the unfancifed senior player promotion of Curbs and Gritt.
Jacko could be an inspired choice?5 -
Fosu and Dasilva are decent players. Bauer and Pearce are overrated and get beaten in the air too often.MuttleyCAFC said:I disagree - Fosu is a terrific but raw player - Bauer, Pearce and Da Silva are defenders who would get into most teams. You could say the same for JFC and Kashi and then we have promising youngsters like Konsa (being courted by Premiership clubs) and Aribo. And Amos has looked decent this season! The problem is not the players we have, but possibly the players we don't have to provide the best balance!
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Most teams? I'm assuming you mean League One teams? Load of rubbish. None of our players would get in to the Wigan or Blackburn teams (the automatic spots).MuttleyCAFC said:I disagree - Fosu is a terrific but raw player - Bauer, Pearce and Da Silva are defenders who would get into most teams. You could say the same for JFC and Kashi and then we have promising youngsters like Konsa (being courted by Premiership clubs) and Aribo. And Amos has looked decent this season! The problem is not the players we have, but possibly the players we don't have to provide the best balance!
Yeah, KR is tactically inept, but our team lacks really quality. We are fortunate to be anywhere near the play offs.1 - Sponsored links:
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No it won't there be no bugger theregolfaddick said:His position is untenable. If he walks out with the players at 2.55pm on saturday the atmosphere will be toxic. Problem is RD doesn't care so it will be down to RM to pull the trigger.
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Of course I meant league one teams!!!!! You may be right about Wigan and Blackburn but there are teams above us where the statement applies!PopIcon said:
Most teams? I'm assuming you mean League One teams? Load of rubbish. None of our players would get in to the Wigan or Blackburn teams (the automatic spots).MuttleyCAFC said:I disagree - Fosu is a terrific but raw player - Bauer, Pearce and Da Silva are defenders who would get into most teams. You could say the same for JFC and Kashi and then we have promising youngsters like Konsa (being courted by Premiership clubs) and Aribo. And Amos has looked decent this season! The problem is not the players we have, but possibly the players we don't have to provide the best balance!
Yeah, KR is tactically inept, but our team lacks really quality. We are fortunate to be anywhere near the play offs.0 -
'International', but Northern Ireland who aren't blessed with strikers and choose from a very small pool. Being an international doesn't automatically mean you're a great striker.Covered_End_Lad said:
You have a different idea of a "very good" scoring record to me. 8-10 goals a season in this league for your main striker is total gash imo.supaclive said:Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
We have fucked him up!
Our squad is just about top ten, but less well balanced than the squads above us. We're seriously lacking in key areas, so am surprised how many think we're all that good. I agree with @PopIcon and think we're in denial about it, with some using the great squad argument as a stick to beat Robinson with.0 -
The COO will be there surely getting the burgers ready and Bernie has always been happy to pitch in to help the regime out in the board room, especially with the vol-au-ventsCAFCBourne said:
No it won't there be no bugger theregolfaddick said:His position is untenable. If he walks out with the players at 2.55pm on saturday the atmosphere will be toxic. Problem is RD doesn't care so it will be down to RM to pull the trigger.
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His INTERNATIONAL scoring record!!!Covered_End_Lad said:
You have a different idea of a "very good" scoring record to me. 8-10 goals a season in this league for your main striker is total gash imo.supaclive said:Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
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Also he doesn't play as a lone striker for N.Ireland and he's the only striker we've got in the first team squad which sums up how unbalanced our squad isJamesSeed said:
'International', but Northern Ireland who aren't blessed with strikers and choose from a very small pool. Being an international doesn't automatically mean you're a great striker.Covered_End_Lad said:
You have a different idea of a "very good" scoring record to me. 8-10 goals a season in this league for your main striker is total gash imo.supaclive said:Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
We have fucked him up!
Our squad is just about top ten, but less well balanced than the squads above us. We're seriously lacking in key areas, so am surprised how many think we're all that good. I agree with @PopIcon and think we're in denial about it, with some using the great squad argument as a stick to beat Robinson with.1 -
4 goals in 35 games including a brace against San Marino is good return? I don't rate Magennis even a little bit but he is certainly 'better' playing on the left in the 3supaclive said:
His INTERNATIONAL scoring record!!!Covered_End_Lad said:
You have a different idea of a "very good" scoring record to me. 8-10 goals a season in this league for your main striker is total gash imo.supaclive said:Magennis is an international player with a very good, consistent scoring record for the last two years.
We have fucked him up!0 -
I didn't mention Magennis but a championship club bid for him recently!1
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There is no magic formula to be a successful manager.
Jimmy Seed and Lennie Lawrence were superb under bizarre ownership.
Chris Powell is a great example of being successful when given a certain budget to bring in his own players and create a team, but the sad truth is when the money dried up under Jimenez/Cash/Slater, Chris found it tough going a full six months before Duchatelet turned up. And totally impossible when players were foisted into his squad under Douchebag.
Karl Robinson has made his own bad luck. League 1 needs good athletes who can run all day with two strikers who can score goals. Play 4-4-2, 3-5-2(wingbacks) any formations as long as you have two strikers in tandem.
Despite Roland Duchatelet; after last season Robinson should of put together a balanced squad of players who could compete over 46 matches. Any 2 from Blackburn,Wigan, Shrewsbury (Paul Hurst excellent) and CAFC.
Results business and Karl has been found wanting.
Charlton and Karl Robinson didn't dovetail.
NEXT.
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Heard from a member of staff at the club that apprently it's been going around that Robinson is set to leave us within 24 hours
Predictable I guess.
Prehaps JJ or JE will do the press conference if true?9
