I wonder if its the fact that it's Southgate, who famously missed a penalty for England, that may be why they are taking penalties a bit more seriously? Would be nice for a positive to come out of that euro 96' miss.
Two players who had decent penalty records at different levels were Lampard and JJ. However, I always considered their penalties saveable. They scored most of them as even though they were saveable, they were hard to save. The question is, are there unsaveable penalties and can they be replicated consistently. I think there are and football hasn't caught up with that fact yet!
Yoni Buyens was a bit like that. Never hit them hard and high like Kane but also gave you the impression he'd never miss. Saying that did he miss any for us?!
Russia’s new World Cup hero, Denis Cheryshev, was forced to deny taking banned substances after his own father was reported as saying he was injected with “growth hormone” before the tournament.
The Russian Sport Weekend magazine said that Dmitri Cheryshev, a manager who was himself a former international, made the potentially-damaging remarks in an interview while his son was sidelined during the build-up to Russia 2018.
Two players who had decent penalty records at different levels were Lampard and JJ. However, I always considered their penalties saveable. They scored most of them as even though they were saveable, they were hard to save. The question is, are there unsaveable penalties and can they be replicated consistently. I think there are and football hasn't caught up with that fact yet!
Yoni Buyens was a bit like that. Never hit them hard and high like Kane but also gave you the impression he'd never miss. Saying that did he miss any for us?!
Russia’s new World Cup hero, Denis Cheryshev, was forced to deny taking banned substances after his own father was reported as saying he was injected with “growth hormone” before the tournament.
The Russian Sport Weekend magazine said that Dmitri Cheryshev, a manager who was himself a former international, made the potentially-damaging remarks in an interview while his son was sidelined during the build-up to Russia 2018.
It was kind of sad to watch that Argentine golden generation go out in such a limp, disorganized display at this World Cup. Today they were just outdone by youth, pace, and a team with a halfway decent gameplay.
The team that won the 2007 U20 World Cup and then the 2008 Gold Medal at the Olympics had Messi, Mascherano, Banega, Aguero, Levezzi, Zabaleta, Gago, Biglia, Garay, Romero, Mercado and probably some others that I'm forgetting. Add to that the likes of Tevez, Higuain, now Dybala, etc. They've been to a World Cup final, I think two Copa America finals, and won nothing.
Some of them didn't progress into the players they promised to be (Gago, Banega, Garay), but there was a tremendous amount of talent in that group and they never seemed to figure out how to play cohesive, coherent football at senior level together, despite doing it for a decade.
You have to wonder if they'd have had a better Tournament had Romero been fit, we certainly wouldnt have seen the error that Caballero made against Croatia
A good point, though Romero was gaffe prone at times as well.
I think this was the culmination of a long period of time playing without a clear system or identity beyond "Messi." The defense and central midfield has never been as good as the attack, but it was made worse by the fact that the likes of Rojo, Otamendi, Garay Fazio, Gago, and Banega didn't really fulfill their early promise. Basically, I feel that by the time this tournament came, their chances had come and gone.
That said, Sampaoli is a coach I hold in really high regard. It makes me wonder just how difficult that core group of players are if he can't get across even his basic tactical ideas. I know the way he likes to play is very much at odds with that aging squad, but still, it seemed like a shitshow at times.
What ineterested me about Kane's two penalties were that they seemed to be scientific. I mean by that, it has been proven that there is a square area either side of the post and cross bar, that if you hit the ball hard enough (I can't remember what the speed was) - it is unsaveable for a keeper standing in the middle of the goal.
I read this research some years ago and to put the ball in this area at the required speed didn't seem an impossibility for any talented player. I know Southgate has done a lot of work with the team on penalties and utilised sports scientists. I will have to see a few more pens including pens from other players, but I am wondering if he is the first manager I have seen who has reacted to this research. most don't even practice them, claiming they are a lottery! Kane's two penalties are certainly consistent with it!
Yes, excellent.
As I have said before, as a sports scientist myself, I love these kind of things. The research further suggests that for a higher success rate on penalties there are key elements that are needed prior to shooting in the unsaveable zone, this includes having a pre-determined selection of penalty takers as this will allow for a period of mental preparation before performing the penalty kick itself.
There are some really interesting aspects to a penalty shoot-out and with the research that is out there, it is great that Southgate has potentially been using that to our advantage.
Have you read "Why England Lose/Soccernomics" Sage? They have a section on this. If you haven't read it I highly, highly recommend it.
It was kind of sad to watch that Argentine golden generation go out in such a limp, disorganized display at this World Cup. Today they were just outdone by youth, pace, and a team with a halfway decent gameplay.
The team that won the 2007 U20 World Cup and then the 2008 Gold Medal at the Olympics had Messi, Mascherano, Banega, Aguero, Levezzi, Zabaleta, Gago, Biglia, Garay, Romero, Mercado and probably some others that I'm forgetting. Add to that the likes of Tevez, Higuain, now Dybala, etc. They've been to a World Cup final, I think two Copa America finals, and won nothing.
Some of them didn't progress into the players they promised to be (Gago, Banega, Garay), but there was a tremendous amount of talent in that group and they never seemed to figure out how to play cohesive, coherent football at senior level together, despite doing it for a decade.
You have to wonder if they'd have had a better Tournament had Romero been fit, we certainly wouldnt have seen the error that Caballero made against Croatia
A good point, though Romero was gaffe prone at times as well.
I think this was the culmination of a long period of time playing without a clear system or identity beyond "Messi." The defense and central midfield has never been as good as the attack, but it was made worse by the fact that the likes of Rojo, Otamendi, Garay Fazio, Gago, and Banega didn't really fulfill their early promise. Basically, I feel that by the time this tournament came, their chances had come and gone.
That said, Sampaoli is a coach I hold in really high regard. It makes me wonder just how difficult that core group of players are if he can't get across even his basic tactical ideas. I know the way he likes to play is very much at odds with that aging squad, but still, it seemed like a shitshow at times.
To me Sampaoli lost the plot in this tournament, no set system, continually chopping and changing, rather than finding a system to make the most of his world class attackers and sticking to it
What ineterested me about Kane's two penalties were that they seemed to be scientific. I mean by that, it has been proven that there is a square area either side of the post and cross bar, that if you hit the ball hard enough (I can't remember what the speed was) - it is unsaveable for a keeper standing in the middle of the goal.
I read this research some years ago and to put the ball in this area at the required speed didn't seem an impossibility for any talented player. I know Southgate has done a lot of work with the team on penalties and utilised sports scientists. I will have to see a few more pens including pens from other players, but I am wondering if he is the first manager I have seen who has reacted to this research. most don't even practice them, claiming they are a lottery! Kane's two penalties are certainly consistent with it!
Yes, excellent.
As I have said before, as a sports scientist myself, I love these kind of things. The research further suggests that for a higher success rate on penalties there are key elements that are needed prior to shooting in the unsaveable zone, this includes having a pre-determined selection of penalty takers as this will allow for a period of mental preparation before performing the penalty kick itself.
There are some really interesting aspects to a penalty shoot-out and with the research that is out there, it is great that Southgate has potentially been using that to our advantage.
Have you read "Why England Lose/Soccernomics" Sage? They have a section on this. If you haven't read it I highly, highly recommend it.
If Ryan Wilson the England youth player didn't get the hump when his parents divorced I'm sure that he would have been the missing link in Euro 96 where we had no left sided attacking player.
He missed out on 3 or 4 world cups and the same in the Euro's.
Ryan Giggs must be gutted that he listened to Alex Ferguson advise and concentrated on his club where he became a united and premier legend. He can ponder that decision because he could have been an international legend plus England could have had a top quality left sided player for 15 years who even in 2018 it is still our weak position.
Giggs was never eligible for England. He played for England schoolboys because he went to an English school but he was born in Wales to Welsh parents, had no English grandparents etc.
Also Giggs was a very good player but wouldn't have suddenly made us twice as good, and McManaman was good at Euro 96, predominantly on the left.
Giggs had lived in England for 10 years by the time he was 16 so he would've qualified. I was thinking England would be 10% better with Giggs plus Ryan would have shown his skills on a world stage. But as RG missed most of the Welsh friendlies, international football never was a priority for him.
Russia’s new World Cup hero, Denis Cheryshev, was forced to deny taking banned substances after his own father was reported as saying he was injected with “growth hormone” before the tournament.
The Russian Sport Weekend magazine said that Dmitri Cheryshev, a manager who was himself a former international, made the potentially-damaging remarks in an interview while his son was sidelined during the build-up to Russia 2018.
Nothing to see here...
It's such a dad thin to inadvertently blurt out something your kids don't want you to share.
What ineterested me about Kane's two penalties were that they seemed to be scientific. I mean by that, it has been proven that there is a square area either side of the post and cross bar, that if you hit the ball hard enough (I can't remember what the speed was) - it is unsaveable for a keeper standing in the middle of the goal.
I read this research some years ago and to put the ball in this area at the required speed didn't seem an impossibility for any talented player. I know Southgate has done a lot of work with the team on penalties and utilised sports scientists. I will have to see a few more pens including pens from other players, but I am wondering if he is the first manager I have seen who has reacted to this research. most don't even practice them, claiming they are a lottery! Kane's two penalties are certainly consistent with it!
Yes, excellent.
As I have said before, as a sports scientist myself, I love these kind of things. The research further suggests that for a higher success rate on penalties there are key elements that are needed prior to shooting in the unsaveable zone, this includes having a pre-determined selection of penalty takers as this will allow for a period of mental preparation before performing the penalty kick itself.
There are some really interesting aspects to a penalty shoot-out and with the research that is out there, it is great that Southgate has potentially been using that to our advantage.
In penalty shoot outs the biggest thing to deal with is the pressure. All pro footballers can take unstoppable pens on the training ground, it's being able to do it when it matters that counts.
Does anyone else find the way Spain knock it about absolutely infuriating? Its all very skillful and all that but there is never any end product. I know they are one up but still. At least when Man city do it you know there will be a through ball at the end of it, or one over the top for Aguero to chase, or at least a shot from distance... Costa might as well set up a deck chair off the pitch and relax in the sun for 90 minutes.
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Russia’s new World Cup hero, Denis Cheryshev, was forced to deny taking banned substances after his own father was reported as saying he was injected with “growth hormone” before the tournament.
The Russian Sport Weekend magazine said that Dmitri Cheryshev, a manager who was himself a former international, made the potentially-damaging remarks in an interview while his son was sidelined during the build-up to Russia 2018.
Nothing to see here...
I think this was the culmination of a long period of time playing without a clear system or identity beyond "Messi." The defense and central midfield has never been as good as the attack, but it was made worse by the fact that the likes of Rojo, Otamendi, Garay Fazio, Gago, and Banega didn't really fulfill their early promise. Basically, I feel that by the time this tournament came, their chances had come and gone.
That said, Sampaoli is a coach I hold in really high regard. It makes me wonder just how difficult that core group of players are if he can't get across even his basic tactical ideas. I know the way he likes to play is very much at odds with that aging squad, but still, it seemed like a shitshow at times.
I was thinking England would be 10% better with Giggs plus Ryan would have shown his skills on a world stage. But as RG missed most of the Welsh friendlies, international football never was a priority for him.
No place for Iniesta but they can bring in Asensio. Thiago drops out, in comes Koke.
Tried to foul Ramos ended up scoring own goal