The rise of the vegans.

Super_Eddie_Youds said:

Maybe both of you should the selective viewing approach to the meat and dairy ads you can't avoid. Nothing to defend about the provenance of the sources then I guess?

Stevelamb said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

Steve - you're mugging yourself off here. I genuinely don't think people like yourself realise how much of a disservice you do to your 'cause'

Simply put - your proselytising without evidence to back it up, your continual use of 'fake news' sources to back you up, your hyperbole in using deliberately misleading statements and lack of ability to articulate a paragraph that doesn't contain at least SOME bullshit makes you look crazy. It's clear you have an agenda - which is fine. Lots of people have agendas. Your problem is that you can't promote that agenda effectively from a position of lunacy.

Can people eat a balanced, healthy vegetarian diet? Absolutely. Not in question. Can people eat a balanced, healthy vegan diet? Yes. It's not as easy, and there will need to be some supplements included, and a lot of sacrifice in the way of convenience, and some acclimatisation to the different tastes involved with an exclusively plant-based diet - but it can be done

But... Does 'all protein come from plants'? No.
Is it legit for you to anthropomorphise cats and think they are somehow 'wrong' for exhibiting completely natural feline behaviour because it displeases you? No.
Is there a conspiracy from the meat industry to 'keep Vegans back'? No.

Grow up Steve. You'll have more chance of converting people to your 'cause' if you do

All protein comes from plants, where do you think animals get it from, they do not make it themselves.
I have never said anything about cats, all I said was our dog is vegan. We have a cat but do not give him vegan food.
And most definitely there is a conspiracy from the meat, diary and pharmaceutical industries to keep vegans back.
It is also a fact that people that go vegan live a much less stressful life, so I very much think you should give it a try.

Stig said:

Braziliance said:

Out of interest did anyone actually watch any of the videos suggested?

I haven't for three reasons:

1. I'm very cautious about what videos I watch in public. Party because I don't want to fill the air with noise that others might not appreciate. Partly because I don't know exactly what the content is and I don't want others to label me as an oddbod if it's a bit far out.

2. I don't take videos very seriously as a method of conveying scientific facts or intellectual arguments. There are too many preachy, evangelical pseudo-scientists who are quite happy to strut their stuff in front of an audience/camera but rather less committed to actually undertaking genuine research and submitting it for peer review. I had a hunch that the videos posted here might be like this.

3. Selfish, self-protection from any brutal images that I wouldn't be able to erase from my mind.

Given the responses I've seen here, I'm glad I chose not to.

Stevelamb said:

palarsehater said:

steve if you dont mind me asking what is a typical days meals

This is a typical working day.

I start the day with a pint of cashew milk and add to it 2 tablespoons of ground flax seeds a quarter of a teaspoon of turmeric and freshly ground black pepper.
Next is strawberries about 20-30.
Next is toast or crumpets with marmite or peanut butter.
Then I have a couple of wraps filled with houmous, lettuce,red peppers,radish and sweet chilli sauce.
Next about 40 blueberries or a couple of oranges or bananas.
Next is a pint of tomato juice with a splash of Worcester sauce.
Loads of water.
I tend not to eat of an evening lol.

The weekends differ if we go out it will be an indian, thai, chinese, japanese, or a restaurant that offers vegan options such as zizi, or for something special the OXO tower or Tredwells, Vanilla Black there are just loads to be had.

Also my wife is vegan and a wonderful cook.
We also run a vegan B&B in SE12.