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  • Although I've just turned over to I'm a Celeb!!
  • JUDD TRUMP IS NORTHERN IRELAND OPEN CHAMPION
  • Northern Ireland Open
    Final

    Judd Trump 9-7 Ronnie O'Sullivan
  • Well this is boring,

    Why should snooker players get a week off, god man its a disgrace :wink:
  • Finally we are back

    The UK Championship starts tomorrow
    Unfortunatly no TV Coverage until Saturday(unless you have Eurosport Player) and even then its split between BBC and Eurosport and BBC only have afternoon coverage.

    Ronnie is defending Champion having beat Shaun Murphy 10-3 in last years final
  • UK Championship
    Round 1
    Matches

    Quarter 1

    Ronnie O'Sullivan(3) v Luke Simmonds(A)
    Yuan Sijun(67) v Ken Doherty(68)
    Zhou Yuelong(32) v Soheil Vahedi(100)
    Mark Davis(33) v Sam Baird(99)
    Marco Fu(16) v Hammad Miah(117)
    Michael Georgiou(51) v Luo Honghao(83)
    Jack Lisowski(17) v Zhang Jiankang(116)
    Fergal O'Brien(50) v Mei Xiwen(84)
    Lyu Haotian(41) v Tian Pengfei(91)
    Jimmy Robertson(24) v Jordan Brown(108)
    Martin O'Donnell(59) v Xu Si(76)
    Shaun Murphy(9) v Chen Feilong(124)
    Ben Woollaston(40) v Alfie Burden(92)
    Xiao Guodong(25) v Sean O'Sullivan(107)
    Matt Selt(60) v Zhang Yong(75)
    Ding Junhui(8) v Adam Stefanow(125)

    Quarter 2

    Judd Trump(5) v David Lilley(A)
    Dominic Dale(63) v Gerard Greene(72)
    Mark King(23) v Elliot Slessor(104)
    Li Hang(37) v Lee Walker(95)
    Ryan Day(12) v Joe O'Connor(121)
    Andrew Higginson(53) v Nigel Bond(79)
    Joe Perry(21) v John Astley(111)
    Michael Holt(46) v Chen Zifan(88)
    Mark Joyce(47) v Niu Zhuang(87)
    Anthony McGill(20) v Lu Ning(112)
    Liam Highfield(55) v Robin Hull(80)
    Luca Brecel(13) v Fan Zhengyi(120)
    Tom Ford(36) v Craig Steadman(96)
    Rob Milkins(29) v Sanderson Lam(103)
    Alan McManus(64) v Alexander Ursenbacher(71)
    John Higgins(4) v Dechawat Poomjaeng(A)

    Quarter 3

    Mark Selby(1) v James Cahill(A)
    Akani Somgsermsawad(65) v Eden Sharav(70)
    Ricky Walden(30) v Jak Jones(102)
    Michael White(35) v Joe Swail(97)
    Stuart Bingham(14) v James Wattana(119)
    Kurt Maflin(54) v Zhang Anda(81)
    Dave Gilbert(19) v Ashley Carty(113)
    Peter Ebdon(48) v Chris Totten(88)
    Stuart Carrington(45) v Paul Davison(89)
    Yan Bingtao(22) v Lukas Kleckers(110)
    Mike Dunn(57) v Allan Taylor(78)
    Kyren Wilson(11) v Andy Lee(A)
    Gary Wilson(38) v Bill Joe Castle(94)
    Liang Wenbo(27) v Sam Baird(105)
    Robbie Williams(62) v Ian Burns(73)
    Barry Hawkins(6) v Jamie Rhys Clarke(127)

    Quarter 4

    Mark Allen(7) v Bassem Eltahhan(126)
    Rory McLeod(61) v Peter Lines(74)
    Martin Gould(26) v Harvey Chandler(106)
    Hossein Vafaei(39) v Ashley Hugill(93)
    Neil Robertson(10) v Kishan Hirani(123)
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh(58) v Jimmy White(77)
    Graeme Dott(23) v Oliver Lines(109)
    Matthew Stevens(42) v Ross Muir(90)
    Chris Wakelin(49) v Duane Jones(85)
    Ali Carter(18) v Thor Chuan Leong(114)
    Scott Donaldson(53) v Li Yuan(82)
    Stephen Maguire(15) v Simon Lichtenberg(118)
    Noppon Saengkham(34) v Hamza Akbar(98)
    Anthony Hamilton(31) v Rod Lawler(101)
    Daniel Wells(66) v Zhao Xintong(69)
    Mark Williams(2) v Adam Duffy(A)
  • Jesus that took a while to write up, I fucking hope you appreciate it haha
  • What I find interesting is that the previous years winner always starts the tournament, its that way in every event, yet Ronnie does not play his 1st match until Thursday afternoon.

    In the past Ronnie has said he doesnt like hanging around after his 1st match so not sure if this has been done to accomadate him, instead of Tuesday-Saturday it will be Thursday-Saturday if thats the case the its wrong changing things to suit 1 player.
  • I've tried that shot in practice when mucking around. To play it in a match is taking the piss. His attitude at the moment is all wrong.

    Might have to give it a go, although dont have my snooker table up anymore :( so haven't really played in a while. Weekend going butlins so might have a frame with one of my mates
    Another one to try, put the white on the yellow spot and black on its spot and try cutting it into the corner on the yellow side of the table. It looks almost impossible but it isn't.
    Was going to say sounds easy enough but to cut it back sounds alot harder :O shame i dont really have much passion for snooker these days and more into pool (played every day this week leagues/ cup)

    On a pool table we sometimes do penalty shoot outs on the black and i usually get about 8/10, obviously its alot easier on a pool table but if its a bit of pressure its a bit harder and not as easy as you would think
    Where do you put the black?
    Sorry for late response, its on the black spot. It should be easy but if you are playing 1 on 1 thats where it gets trick, or if you switch sides you are potting it for the bragging rights :smiley:
  • Jesus that took a while to write up, I fucking hope you appreciate it haha

    Blimey that just looks long:
    First quarter: Ronnie
    2nd:Trump - Ronnie will get you next time!
    3rd:Selby
    4th: Robertson/ Allen
    looks fairly straight forward for the main faves, but as you know its very unlikely the top 4 seeds in each section will go through.
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  • Good article with Stuart Bingham about betting in Snooker

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46318955
  • Good article with Stuart Bingham about betting in Snooker

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46318955

    Agree the abuse is out of hand, have seen it myself on twitter, a player loses and they get messages saying I hope you die and your family dies, some of the things I have seen on twitter is digusting.

    But saying that I am sorry Stuart but this is a load of bollocks But the Basildon player strenuously denied putting money on matches he was involved in, saying they were placed only by another person with whom he shared an account. there is no way you share a betting account with someone else
  • I have no idea whether he did or not , but unless he was betting on himself to lose, I don't see a problem with players having a bet
  • I have no idea whether he did or not , but unless he was betting on himself to lose, I don't see a problem with players having a bet

    Massive conflict of interest, so many things they could influence it just would be too hard to monitor. Correct decision imo

    Agree what he says about all the betting firms being advertised in every tournament, it gets very over the top so must be easy for someone to do it.
  • UK Championship
    Round 1
    Results

    Ding Junhi 6-1 Adam Stefanow
    Luo Honghao 6-0 Michael Georgiou
    Tian Pengfei 6-4 Lyu Haotian
    Jack Lisowksi 6-1 Zhang Jiankang
    Martin O'Donnell 6-4 Xu Si
    Neil Robertson 6-2 Kishan Hirani
    Ken Doherty 6-2 Yuan Sijun
    Zhou Yuelong 6-1 Soheil Vahedi
    Michael Holt 6-1 Chen Zifan
    Rob Milkins 6-1 Sanderson Lam
    Matt Selt 6-2 Zhang Yong
    Judd Trump 6-0 David Lilley
    Kyren Wilson 6-0 Andy Lee
    Ben Woollaston 6-3 Alfie Burden
    Jak Jones 6-5 Ricky Walden
    Dominic Dale 6-4 Gerard Greene
  • Cheers Paulie, no shocks there really. Kind of proving Ronnies point there should be a main 32 players, most of those were thrashings
  • Cheers Paulie, no shocks there really. Kind of proving Ronnies point there should be a main 32 players, most of those were thrashings

    Gotta say I disagree,
    Ricky Walden ranked 30th lost to Jak Jones ranked 105th, also 3 other players lst to players lower ranked.

    So 1/4 of matches yesterday went to the lower ranked players, yes most were 1 sided, but the lower ranked players gain experience from matches like that, Ronnie himself has lost to players below 64 in the world(Eliott Slessor has beaten him twice)

    The way the draw is done the top players have an easy chance of getting past a few rounds anyway look at Ronnie

    Last 128-Simmond- Doesnt even hold a tour card
    Last 64-Sijun(67) or Doherty(68)
    Last 32-Zhou Yuelong(32), Soheil Vahedi(100), Mark Davis(33), Sam Baird(99)

    So he wont face anyone in the top 32 until the last 16 and if he loses before then its only himself to blame.

    Personally I love the tour the way it is
  • I personally think top 16 should enter at a later round, but it does bring the odd few shocks and hopefully a chance for the lower ranked players.

    In this Tournament alone it does look very easy to pick, Jak Jones isn't a massive shock win as Ricky hasn't really played too well last couple off years. Isn't Jak Jones the one who practices with Mark Williams or is it Duane Jones? Top 16 is a step up from anyone outside of the top 16 imo but still not always formality.

    But imagine Ronnie didn't make the TV rounds and another few shocks before its even on TV, this would be great for the lower ranked players but not for the fans as most wouldn't bother watching it Imo.

    It is what it is, the end of the day! Since Hearn has stepped in he has done brilliant and you cant please everyone, i haven't really heard much of the challenge tour of late either. Feels like Pool is growing, snooker is kind of standing still now.
  • I personally think top 16 should enter at a later round, but it does bring the odd few shocks and hopefully a chance for the lower ranked players.

    In this Tournament alone it does look very easy to pick, Jak Jones isn't a massive shock win as Ricky hasn't really played too well last couple off years. Isn't Jak Jones the one who practices with Mark Williams or is it Duane Jones? Top 16 is a step up from anyone outside of the top 16 imo but still not always formality.

    But imagine Ronnie didn't make the TV rounds and another few shocks before its even on TV, this would be great for the lower ranked players but not for the fans as most wouldn't bother watching it Imo.

    It is what it is, the end of the day! Since Hearn has stepped in he has done brilliant and you cant please everyone, i haven't really heard much of the challenge tour of late either. Feels like Pool is growing, snooker is kind of standing still now.

    Actually saw a great tweet the other day which sums up what i have always said



  • I personally think top 16 should enter at a later round, but it does bring the odd few shocks and hopefully a chance for the lower ranked players.

    In this Tournament alone it does look very easy to pick, Jak Jones isn't a massive shock win as Ricky hasn't really played too well last couple off years. Isn't Jak Jones the one who practices with Mark Williams or is it Duane Jones? Top 16 is a step up from anyone outside of the top 16 imo but still not always formality.

    But imagine Ronnie didn't make the TV rounds and another few shocks before its even on TV, this would be great for the lower ranked players but not for the fans as most wouldn't bother watching it Imo.

    It is what it is, the end of the day! Since Hearn has stepped in he has done brilliant and you cant please everyone, i haven't really heard much of the challenge tour of late either. Feels like Pool is growing, snooker is kind of standing still now.

    Actually saw a great tweet the other day which sums up what i have always said



    Paulie, i am not just saying Ronnie i am talking about any of the top players. They bring the fans thats a FACT, yes i might still watch it....but i will be more likely if ROS is playing. It is how it is, nothing to do with being a proper fan (same debate with football teams if you go more = more of a fan).

    As per Agree to disagree
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  • I personally think top 16 should enter at a later round, but it does bring the odd few shocks and hopefully a chance for the lower ranked players.

    In this Tournament alone it does look very easy to pick, Jak Jones isn't a massive shock win as Ricky hasn't really played too well last couple off years. Isn't Jak Jones the one who practices with Mark Williams or is it Duane Jones? Top 16 is a step up from anyone outside of the top 16 imo but still not always formality.

    But imagine Ronnie didn't make the TV rounds and another few shocks before its even on TV, this would be great for the lower ranked players but not for the fans as most wouldn't bother watching it Imo.

    It is what it is, the end of the day! Since Hearn has stepped in he has done brilliant and you cant please everyone, i haven't really heard much of the challenge tour of late either. Feels like Pool is growing, snooker is kind of standing still now.

    Actually saw a great tweet the other day which sums up what i have always said



    Paulie, i am not just saying Ronnie i am talking about any of the top players. They bring the fans thats a FACT, yes i might still watch it....but i will be more likely if ROS is playing. It is how it is, nothing to do with being a proper fan (same debate with football teams if you go more = more of a fan).

    As per Agree to disagree
    Sorry that wasnt aimed at you, and know what you mean the bigger name will always attract bigger audiences but chances are the last 32 will see at least 10 of the top 16 still involved anyway and if one of the top 16 say Selby, Ronnie, Williams were to lose then chances are they were not playing there best snooker so probably wouldnt be a massive lose to the event.

    That tweet was just me saying at least someone agrees with me the amount of people online that say things like they wouldnt watch snooker if Ronnie wasnt playing, well they are not snooker fans they are Ronnie fans, if you love the game as much as me, you would watch it if it was Ronnie v Selby or McLeod v Ebdon, i use them last 2 as it would probably be a 10 hour match if those 2 played haha
  • Will do a full update tonight but this is why I think the system works, this afternoon we lost Shaun Murphy and Ryan Day, both players lost to someone ranked in the 120s, both Feilong and O'Conor have had the biggest wins of their career
  • Uk Championship
    Round 1
    Results

    Stuart Bingham 6-0 James Wattana
    Marco Fu 6-0 Hammad Miah
    Rod Lawler 6-1 Anthony Hamilton
    Andrew Higginson 6-2 Nigel Bond
    Liam Highfield 6-4 Robin Hull
    Mark Joyce 6-3 Niu Zhuang
    Li Hang 6-3 Lee Walker
    Jimmy Robertson 6-4 Jordan Brown
    Joe O'Connor 6-2 Ryan Day
    Graeme Dott 6-2 Oliver Lines
    Tom Ford 6-5 Craig Steadman
    Alan McManus 6-1 Alexander Ursenbacher
    Chen Feilong 6-3 Shaun Murphy
    Joe Perry 6-0 John Astley
    Akani Songsermsawad 6-5 Eden Sharav
    Joe Swail 6-5 Michael White
    Mark Allen 6-2 Basem Eltahhan
    Paul Davison 6-1 Stuart Carrington
    Mike Dunn 6-4 Allan Taylor
    Dave Gilbert 6-3 Ashley Carty
    Martin Gould 6-1 Harvey Chandler
    John Higgins 6-5 Dechawat Poomjaeng
    Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 6-3 Jimmy White
    Gary Wilson 6-4 Billy Joe Castle
  • Final 24 1st round matches tomorrow then a day off and we begin round 2 on Saturday which is also when tv coverage starts
  • Lawlor v Hamilton overran and they had to come back to play the last game, even though it was 5-1. Lawlor averaged 39 seconds and Hamilton 33. Lawlor has said that is how he has always played and isn't going to change now, which I think is a fair comment.

    Michael Georgiou is struggling at the moment and lost 6-0. He hasn't taken advantage of his win in the comedy event.
  • Lawlor v Hamilton overran and they had to come back to play the last game, even though it was 5-1. Lawlor averaged 39 seconds and Hamilton 33. Lawlor has said that is how he has always played and isn't going to change now, which I think is a fair comment.

    Michael Georgiou is struggling at the moment and lost 6-0. He hasn't taken advantage of his win in the comedy event.

    Thats happened a few times now.

    As you say Hamilton v Lawler had to come back last night also yesterday Jimmy Robertson v Jordan Brown and today Rory Mcleod v Peter lines taken off and Robbie Williams v Ian Burns.

    The issue is they are not allowed to start a new frame after 2pm so everything can be ready for 2.30 matches
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    Lawlor v Hamilton overran and they had to come back to play the last game, even though it was 5-1. Lawlor averaged 39 seconds and Hamilton 33. Lawlor has said that is how he has always played and isn't going to change now, which I think is a fair comment.

    Michael Georgiou is struggling at the moment and lost 6-0. He hasn't taken advantage of his win in the comedy event.

    Thats happened a few times now.

    As you say Hamilton v Lawler had to come back last night also yesterday Jimmy Robertson v Jordan Brown and today Rory Mcleod v Peter lines taken off and Robbie Williams v Ian Burns.

    The issue is they are not allowed to start a new frame after 2pm so everything can be ready for 2.30 matches
    No the issue is they are all slow players and/or their match time has overun. in any scheduled tourney they have set times eg. pool tournament in blackpool i played this year (will next) 2 hour windows turn around as they have lot of matches to get through. Will always get a few, its annoying they cant just finish but they know before hand what will happen.

    In my circs, we actually got delayed by the match in front so started 20 mins/ half hour late, we were well within our 2 hour slot but they put us onto 2 tables to finish because of the ones before overun. Still great comp and very well run but was a slight grumble we were penalised because of the match before.... If we get on a stream ill put on FB as they stream some tables

    thats my thoughts on it, you will always get slow players but you should try to control this to some extent otherwise it impacts others on the tour.
  • Its not always slow players tho.

    As i said 1 of the matches that was pulled off yesterday abd had to return was Jimmy Robertson beating Jordan Brown 64

    Jimmy had an AST of 22
    Jordan had an AST of 26

    Some players are slow yes and its no surprise to see Lawler and McLeod over run but sometimes a few frames where the balls go safe, or a few frames with a extended safety period and its liable to overrun last night Higgins v Poomjaeng finished after midnight, it was the last match but again that was not due to slow play but some extended tougher frames
  • Its not always slow players tho.

    As i said 1 of the matches that was pulled off yesterday abd had to return was Jimmy Robertson beating Jordan Brown 64

    Jimmy had an AST of 22
    Jordan had an AST of 26

    Some players are slow yes and its no surprise to see Lawler and McLeod over run but sometimes a few frames where the balls go safe, or a few frames with a extended safety period and its liable to overrun last night Higgins v Poomjaeng finished after midnight, it was the last match but again that was not due to slow play but some extended tougher frames

    Thats fair, regardless if their own fault or not if they have a tactical frame or 2 and fall behind they know they are going to get pulled off and have to continue when the table is next free. Or maybe they should be aware of the time so they can either speed up r just accept they will have to complete later.

    if the last session eg. night and there is no other games to follow they should always be played out as they are not affecting anyone else.
  • Never once disagreed @johnnybev1987 i agree they should be pulled off, there are other tournements that dont do that and i think its wrong, the afternoon session starts at 2.30 so if the game is not finsihed by 2pm they should be pulled off haha
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